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Then your system is clearly broken. Continued wealth grabs and handouts for corporations and the wealthy. While minimum wage remains far below poverty level.
It’s been shown multiple times, by the way, that raising income level of the lowest income earners is a good thing. Those people spend every dime they make, raising their income just means they put more straight back into the economy. Directly.
Small businesses and the middle class should have been the entire focus of GOP tax cuts. Not the wealthy and giant corporations which is where most of it has gone. And while there are other factors those tax cuts over the past forty years are just another reason why income disparity has gone crazy over the past 35 years.
It’s been shown multiple times, by the way, that raising income level of the lowest income earners is a good thing. Those people spend every dime they make, raising their income just means they put more straight back into the economy. Directly.
Small businesses and the middle class should have been the entire focus of GOP tax cuts. Not the wealthy and giant corporations which is where most of it has gone. And while there are other factors those tax cuts over the past forty years are just another reason why income disparity has gone crazy over the past 35 years.
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Real wages haven't increased in decades because of inflation. The inflation is a direct result of the expansion of debt. Raising the minimum wage will increase wages artificially, but that increase will be passed on to something else, probably by increased prices on goods in general. So sure, workers may take home 20% more in their paycheck, but if they're paying 20% more on goods, the end result is the same. Thus, real wages aren't really rising and it's just an illusion.
This type of policy is ridiculously inflationary and gets us nowhere in the scheme of things. The left just doesn't understand that there is no free lunch in economics and there will never be one.
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That's fair enough. I may still not agree, but a federal minimum wage for a country as large as this one is absurd.
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And by the way, I don't mind paying more when I support local businesses. I always go to my local shoppes, farmers markets, and the like before grocery chains and corporate fuckhouses like Walmart. I also don't mind paying more when I go to a restaurant. I'm usually tipping 25-30% especially when someone I know or like is the server. But unfortunately, many people will stop going to these places if menu prices suddenly shoot up, and then you have the morons who hate to tip people in general because they're just terrible, stupid people, not because they're frequent travelers to Europe.
This type of policy is ridiculously inflationary and gets us nowhere in the scheme of things. The left just doesn't understand that there is no free lunch in economics and there will never be one.
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That's fair enough. I may still not agree, but a federal minimum wage for a country as large as this one is absurd.
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And by the way, I don't mind paying more when I support local businesses. I always go to my local shoppes, farmers markets, and the like before grocery chains and corporate fuckhouses like Walmart. I also don't mind paying more when I go to a restaurant. I'm usually tipping 25-30% especially when someone I know or like is the server. But unfortunately, many people will stop going to these places if menu prices suddenly shoot up, and then you have the morons who hate to tip people in general because they're just terrible, stupid people, not because they're frequent travelers to Europe.
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Nice. So here we have impeachment at -5 days. Do I hear -1 month?
Well, first off Americans don't pay enough for food. Across the board. Period. It's indirectly subsidized by Big Oil and directly by illegal labor.
Just like where your taxpayer dollars go, it's an opaque system and we are not paying the correct market value for labor, for food, etc.
So I am saying that consumers are part of the problem and honestly should be paying more and not exploiting Big Oil subsidies and illegal labor for what they buy.
The problem was minimum wage used to be defined mostly for kids in high school and summer jobs. But with the depletion of middle class manufacturing and other jobs being offshored, people are now breadwinners and trying to support families on minimum wage. That's f'ed up.
Yes, raising the minimum wage is probably just a bandage for this.
Give him a white robe and the outfit is complete.
I am bothered by all the people equating the invasion of the Capitol with a white supremacist rally. Oh, they were there in numbers alright. But you don't need to be a white supremacist to believe the Pope was arrested over the weekend for human trafficking and incest. Sammy Davis Jr. and Stop the Steal aside.
So you think restaurants are shit businesses? 
Just like where your taxpayer dollars go, it's an opaque system and we are not paying the correct market value for labor, for food, etc.
So I am saying that consumers are part of the problem and honestly should be paying more and not exploiting Big Oil subsidies and illegal labor for what they buy.
The problem was minimum wage used to be defined mostly for kids in high school and summer jobs. But with the depletion of middle class manufacturing and other jobs being offshored, people are now breadwinners and trying to support families on minimum wage. That's f'ed up.
Yes, raising the minimum wage is probably just a bandage for this.
Give him a white robe and the outfit is complete.
I am bothered by all the people equating the invasion of the Capitol with a white supremacist rally. Oh, they were there in numbers alright. But you don't need to be a white supremacist to believe the Pope was arrested over the weekend for human trafficking and incest. Sammy Davis Jr. and Stop the Steal aside.
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Washington DC is basically a police state right now. Troops all over the place and metro stations closed.
I guess it depends on where you're buying your food or what restaurants you're visiting. If you're buying your groceries at Walmart (yuck), you are probably buying crap goods that maybe at some point were handled by undocumented or mistreated workers. You're also "not paying enough" because of economies of scale. Same for restaurant chains. Luckily, there are places you can find locally sourced, organic grocers and restaurants, but in that case you're going to pay. Personally, I want to buy local, organic, and fresh, so I don't mind paying $5 for a bunch of organic red kale. But not everyone can afford to pay those types of prices, so they revert to the economies of scale produce and radioactive chicken breasts.
But this all goes back to the inflationary and cultural spiral we're on in this country. Some people can't afford good food because their real wages haven't increased over time, or they have 11 kids to support (which is dumb). Or they don't care about food in general and are fine with eating shit out of a trough. Not everyone is an obsessive foodie like me and has the ability to afford $5 kale, but we do need a larger renaissance than we already have of buying local and organic before costs become too high to do anything.
I guess it depends on where you're buying your food or what restaurants you're visiting. If you're buying your groceries at Walmart (yuck), you are probably buying crap goods that maybe at some point were handled by undocumented or mistreated workers. You're also "not paying enough" because of economies of scale. Same for restaurant chains. Luckily, there are places you can find locally sourced, organic grocers and restaurants, but in that case you're going to pay. Personally, I want to buy local, organic, and fresh, so I don't mind paying $5 for a bunch of organic red kale. But not everyone can afford to pay those types of prices, so they revert to the economies of scale produce and radioactive chicken breasts.
But this all goes back to the inflationary and cultural spiral we're on in this country. Some people can't afford good food because their real wages haven't increased over time, or they have 11 kids to support (which is dumb). Or they don't care about food in general and are fine with eating shit out of a trough. Not everyone is an obsessive foodie like me and has the ability to afford $5 kale, but we do need a larger renaissance than we already have of buying local and organic before costs become too high to do anything.
I think it's true almost independent of where you get your food.
Restaurants largely would not exist if not for immigrant workers, many of them with questionable documentation. And the food that is grown, that's also dependent on the same labor structures. Some Americans decry illegal and even legal immigrants, but everything from growing crops to raising livestock to meat packing to operating restaurants would be much more expensive without them.
You can't complain about minimum wage being too high, the presence of undocumented workers, and the price of food all at the same time -- that's just pure economic fantasy. One if not two of those factors needs to budge to address the others.
I also have to cast doubt on the idea that Americans cannot afford to buy decent food. This goes beyond the money Americans spend on video games, TV subscriptions, and avocado toast. The US is the most overweight country on the planet pretty much, so clearly it's not a question of quantity or access to any kind of food. Affording better food is going to be more expensive, surely. But every time someone decries organic food being elitist and expensive, I call b.s. All of India eats organic food. It's just called "food" there.
It's the non-organic food in America that's the freakazoid mutant that is created through heavy processing and the use of fossil fuel subsidies. So how is that somehow hundreds of millions of Indians manage to get by on their meager livelihoods eating organic food but the US thinks it's impossible? Questions must be asked here.
Restaurants largely would not exist if not for immigrant workers, many of them with questionable documentation. And the food that is grown, that's also dependent on the same labor structures. Some Americans decry illegal and even legal immigrants, but everything from growing crops to raising livestock to meat packing to operating restaurants would be much more expensive without them.
You can't complain about minimum wage being too high, the presence of undocumented workers, and the price of food all at the same time -- that's just pure economic fantasy. One if not two of those factors needs to budge to address the others.
I also have to cast doubt on the idea that Americans cannot afford to buy decent food. This goes beyond the money Americans spend on video games, TV subscriptions, and avocado toast. The US is the most overweight country on the planet pretty much, so clearly it's not a question of quantity or access to any kind of food. Affording better food is going to be more expensive, surely. But every time someone decries organic food being elitist and expensive, I call b.s. All of India eats organic food. It's just called "food" there.
It's the non-organic food in America that's the freakazoid mutant that is created through heavy processing and the use of fossil fuel subsidies. So how is that somehow hundreds of millions of Indians manage to get by on their meager livelihoods eating organic food but the US thinks it's impossible? Questions must be asked here.
it’s not okay to do it, they’re antifa pretending to be trumpers. Republicans would never eat organic food
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it’s not about organic or not, there are no issues with GMO food regardless of what some people say. There’s nothing wrong with making food grow faster and better, after all, apples used to be tart instead of sweet. That’s all normal evolution of food.
waste is a problem but that comes down to capitalism, companies would rather throw food away than give it away for free. I get why some places do it but it can be handled much better. At the end of the day, there’s more than enough healthy food for everyone in America
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it’s not about organic or not, there are no issues with GMO food regardless of what some people say. There’s nothing wrong with making food grow faster and better, after all, apples used to be tart instead of sweet. That’s all normal evolution of food.
waste is a problem but that comes down to capitalism, companies would rather throw food away than give it away for free. I get why some places do it but it can be handled much better. At the end of the day, there’s more than enough healthy food for everyone in America
It’s often amazing how gullible conservatives are, and how absolutely unwilling to take responsibility for their actions lol. A couple hundred MAGA morons arrested, and one BLM guy is proof that it was a false flag operation led by BLM and Antifa.