'Murica! (63 Viewers)

[icemaη]

it was close on the electoral side, which should have been expected. however, the popular vote is pretty damning on all levels

Once the counting is done, even the electoral college won't look close.

 

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[Enron]

Once the counting is done, even the electoral college won't look close.

it will have been close in the battleground states, but yes if republicans hadn’t orchestrated this madness the election would have been called much sooner and would have look far less close that it appears at the moment

 

[campionesidd]

Once the counting is done, even the electoral college won't look close.

I hear you, but Biden’s margins of victory in Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania will be really close, whereas Trump will barely eke out North Carolina.
The swing states really shouldn’t have been this close.

 

[Enron]

Republicans are going to delay the results for months anyway

 

[Lapa]

Forza Trump, fuck the European communist media!

 

[Bjerknes]

Latinos think Biden is Nicolás Maduro's brother, thanks to the misinformation campaign. Yes, that's a win-at-all-costs strategy, but it serves to make us all buy lies. That isn't a good precedent for an enlightened republic.


And the economy isn't in a recession because of government shutdowns. It's in recession because there has never been a strategy or plan to contend with a dangerous virus other than hiding it and wishing it would vanish on its own. You don't have an economy when everyone on the front lines is getting sick, hospitals are full, people are afraid to go out, and the feds abandon responsibility.

Trump has no patience for hard problems. Worse, he's not even bothered or interested in solving them.

I hear the same stuff from my family as well. Whatever way you want to spin it, unemployment rates for basically all minorities were at all-time lows before the virus hit. I'm fine with criticizing the response to the virus, but blaming the recession on Trump is just laughable when the rest of the world is dealing with the same issues. Other than shutting down travel and basically everything at the onset of the outbreak, there isn't a way to stop the spread in the 21st century. And basically nobody else had a real plan either.

 

[kappa96]

I just hope the new administration isn't weak on China

Unfortunately, I don't see it happening.We are going to see a more relaxed policy when it comes to China.
I would be pleasantly surprised if Biden continues with the hard stance.
Just my 2 cents.

 

[campionesidd]

I hear the same stuff from my family as well. Whatever way you want to spin it, unemployment rates for basically all minorities were at all-time lows before the virus hit. I'm fine with criticizing the response to the virus, but blaming the recession on Trump is just laughable when the rest of the world is dealing with the same issues. Other than shutting down travel and basically everything at the onset of the outbreak, there isn't a way to stop the spread in the 21st century. And basically nobody else had a real plan either.

Ultimately, I think Trump lost because of his handling of the pandemic. The shift of older white voters towards Biden is what sealed his fate. If he had tried to even pretend to care about people dying and getting the virus, he would have won. People usually come together in a crisis.

 

[swag]

I hear the same stuff from my family as well. Whatever way you want to spin it, unemployment rates for basically all minorities were at all-time lows before the virus hit. I'm fine with criticizing the response to the virus, but blaming the recession on Trump is just laughable when the rest of the world is dealing with the same issues. Other than shutting down travel and basically everything at the onset of the outbreak, there isn't a way to stop the spread in the 21st century. And basically nobody else had a real plan either.

I don’t think you can credit the for a president for an economy just as you can’t blame them for one. There are much bigger, and longer term, forces than one guy at play there.

 

[JuveJay]

Oh shit.

 

[Post Ironic]

I hear you, but Biden’s margins of victory in Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania will be really close, whereas Trump will barely eke out North Carolina.
The swing states really shouldn’t have been this close.

Pennsylvania probably won’t be all that close once the last votes are counted. It will look more like Michigan imo.

 

[campionesidd]

Pennsylvania probably won’t be all that close once the last votes are counted. It will look more like Michigan imo.

True, but still, a percentage point is too close for my liking.
Means it could easily have gone in a different direction

 

[Post Ironic]

This system where a candidate will have 5 mil more votes than his opponent, and where the race is still called close should not exist. It's simply a ridiculous system.

Republicans can lose overall popular vote on All of Presidency, senate races, house Races, and somehow come out with a majority in all three. Dat dere ‘murican democracy.

 

[campionesidd]

Can someone explain why these radical leftist ideas have overwhelming support in the US if they're on the ballot, but not on the party manifesto?
Some examples being Medicare-for-all, decriminalization of drugs (at least marijuana, if not hard drugs), cheaper college, government stimulus, background checks on new gun owners, raising the minimum wage....

 

[ALC]

Trump gave 7.3 billion of bailout to churches. Churches ffs. They’re tax exempt and mainly known for hiding pedophilia.


https://www.atheists.org/2020/11/church-bailout-federal-court-ruling/

 

[MikeM]

Trump gave 7.3 billion of bailout to churches. Churches ffs. They’re tax exempt and mainly known for hiding pedophilia.


https://www.atheists.org/2020/11/church-bailout-federal-court-ruling/

Everyone got taxpayers' money except taxpayers.

Because SOCIALISM IS BAD. GIVE MY MONEY TO CORPORATIONS, PEOPLE WHO BUILD TANKS AND BOMBS, AND CHURCHES, NOT OTHER PEOPLE.

 

[Post Ironic]

Everyone got taxpayers' money except taxpayers.

Because SOCIALISM IS BAD. GIVE MY MONEY TO CORPORATIONS, PEOPLE WHO BUILD TANKS AND BOMBS, AND CHURCHES, NOT OTHER PEOPLE.

Can someone explain why these radical leftist ideas have overwhelming support in the US if they're on the ballot, but not on the party manifesto?
Some examples being Medicare-for-all, decriminalization of drugs (at least marijuana, if not hard drugs), cheaper college, government stimulus, background checks on new gun owners, raising the minimum wage....

And then the crying over “leftist cancel culture”.

Meanwhile Trump fans chanting “arrest the poll workers” in Michigan and Arizona outside the vote counting centres.

“Lock him/her up” chants at every Trump rally.

Boycott and cancel NFL and NBA for peacefully protesting police violence.

Media enemy of the people and should all be fired for unfavourable reporting of their guy.

Yeah, sure is the left that is all about “cancelling” people who disagree with them.

 

[ALC]

And then the crying over “leftist cancel culture”.

Meanwhile Trump fans chanting “arrest the poll workers” in Michigan and Arizona outside the vote counting centres.

“Lock him/her up” chants at every Trump rally.

Boycott and cancel NFL and NBA for peacefully protesting police violence.

Media enemy of the people and should all be fired for unfavourable reporting of their guy.

Yeah, sure is the left that is all about “cancelling” people who disagree with them.

trump has instilled a huge victim mentality among his base.

 

[Bjerknes]

Ultimately, I think Trump lost because of his handling of the pandemic. The shift of older white voters towards Biden is what sealed his fate. If he had tried to even pretend to care about people dying and getting the virus, he would have won. People usually come together in a crisis.

I'm sure that's part of it. But he was the most hated President I've seen in my lifetime even before Covid, so I doubt that would have mattered.

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Trump gave 7.3 billion of bailout to churches. Churches ffs. They’re tax exempt and mainly known for hiding pedophilia.


https://www.atheists.org/2020/11/church-bailout-federal-court-ruling/

This is how government works though. Whether it's through bailouts or the massive pork in the various legislation that is passed, there are all sorts of groups that benefit from rent seeking.

 

[ALC]

I'm sure that's part of it. But he was the most hated President I've seen in my lifetime even before Covid, so I doubt that would have mattered.

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This is how government works though. Whether it's through bailouts or the massive pork in the various legislation that is passed, there are all sorts of groups that benefit from rent seeking.

yes, but trump in particular made it easier for these companies/institutions to get away with asking for however much by getting rid of watchdogs

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...s-coronavirus-stimulus-watchdog-idUSKBN22W2ZU