'Murica! (157 Viewers)

[Seven]

I never said no taxes at all, if you were to sum up my point, it would simply be don't put the burdens of failed policies on successful people, especially if it means giving more money to the idiots who got you there in the first place.

It depends on where you're coming from. I don't see rich people as evil people we need to exploit. But there comes a point where they could easily afford to do more to help. If for example you were tax much more heavily after 10m dollars, I can see why. I can also understand why at some point you'd want to make it tougher to avoid taxes (I'm not sure what it's like in the US, but in Belgium it's ridiculous how little big corporations are taxed, simply because they know how to set up smart structures).

But none of that means agreeing to the failed policies you mentioned imo. And it especially doesn't involve squandering taxpayer money as is done so frequently.

 

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[IliveForJuve]

It depends on where you're coming from. I don't see rich people as evil people we need to exploit. But there comes a point where they could easily afford to do more to help. If for example you were tax much more heavily after 10m dollars, I can see why. I can also understand why at some point you'd want to make it tougher to avoid taxes (I'm not sure what it's like in the US, but in Belgium it's ridiculous how little big corporations are taxed, simply because they know how to set up smart structures).

But none of that means agreeing to the failed policies you mentioned imo. And it especially doesn't involve squandering taxpayer money as is done so frequently.

From a practical standpoint, if you want a decent country and society to live in, it makes no sense to allow 85% of the wealth to be completely controlled by approximately 1/10th of 1% of the population, and then expect that everything needed to have a decent society to be paid for by taxing the remaining 15% of the wealth. That is frankly, insane.

 

[Ronn]

What a disgrace

 

[Enron]

What a disgrace

something like 90% of public owned land in California is federal. They only started having terrible issues when Trump cut the management budget for the Forest Service.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

I seriously can't wait until he is out of office.

 

[Seven]

I seriously can't wait until he is out of office.

@Bjerknes thinks he's awesome.

 

[X Æ A-12]

something like 90% of public owned land in California is federal. They only started having terrible issues when Trump cut the management budget for the Forest Service.

He cut the rake budget down to sporks

 

[Ronn]

something like 90% of public owned land in California is federal. They only started having terrible issues when Trump cut the management budget for the Forest Service.

Apparently 57% is owned by federal government, 40% is owned by families and other private entities, and only 3% by the state.

 

[Enron]

He cut the rake budget down to sporks

Next, you’ll be raking with spoons.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Next, you’ll be raking with spoons.

And Mexico's going to pay for them.

 

[Enron]

Apparently 57% is owned by federal government, 40% is owned by families and other private entities, and only 3% by the state.

He’s the personification of a dumb cunt.

 

[Seven]

I like that he has to shut everything down to pressure the Democrats into giving him money for a wall he said Mexico would pay for.

I can't believe how people are still going along with this.

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[GordoDeCentral]

I like that he has to shut everything down to pressure the Democrats into giving him money for a wall he said Mexico would pay for.

I can't believe how people are still going along with this.

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the idea of the wall itself isn't so bad, but of course this has nothing to do with what's right and all political.

 

[Enron]

the idea of the wall itself isn't so bad, but of course this has nothing to do with what's right and all political.

I mean there already is a wall over a lot of the border.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I mean there already is a wall over a lot of the border.

Mind providing info on the matter

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Mind providing info on the matter

https://www.usatoday.com/border-wall/us-mexico-interactive-border-map/

 

[Seven]

the idea of the wall itself isn't so bad, but of course this has nothing to do with what's right and all political.

The idea that a wall will solve all immigration problems is very simplistic at best. But yeah, sometimes it can be one of the tools you use.

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[X Æ A-12]

Every part of the border ive been there is wall and fencing or there is a natural wall ie giant desert

A physical barrier seems like a dumb idea anyway. If you want illegal immigrants gone fine the businesses giving them work to a point that nobody has incentive to hire them and stop giving them access to govt services and drivers licensens

 

[Post Ironic]

The idea that a wall will solve all immigration problems is very simplistic at best. But yeah, sometimes it can be one of the tools you use.

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Not to mention that in most places a barrier is truly useful or necessary, there already is one.

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something like 90% of public owned land in California is federal. They only started having terrible issues when Trump cut the management budget for the Forest Service.

Yep. How anyone is fooled by this moron is beyond me. And then you add in his statements on climate change being a hoax, and his cutting of environmental regulations...

Mind numbing.