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That's the difference between winners and losers no matter what country you're in.
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Empirical evidence points towards western european societies (especially scandinavia) as being the most succesful ie. the winners here, and that America since Reagan not only have been overtaken by many countries but is now moving fewer and fewer people from poverty to middle class ie. a dying american dream - this is getting worse for every generation born [so far].
Hustini's anecdotal nonsense+red herrings+ad hominem is just a simple mind that can't handle the reality (why his mind isn't able to have already been explained).
That's the difference between winners and losers no matter what country you're in.
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I asked what YOUR opinion is, since you are defending conservative Christians here. I don't even know if you are Christian or not.
To me voting for someone who has no empathy for anybody except himself and his family is a big indicator that roughly 70% of them are hypocrites who are only Christian in name, hence my point.
To me voting for someone who has no empathy for anybody except himself and his family is a big indicator that roughly 70% of them are hypocrites who are only Christian in name, hence my point.
I'm not even sure what he's actually trying to argue. All actual evidence and studies show that upward social mobility in the US has become incredibly poor in relation to other first world countries, and is progressively getting worse. It also shows that the American public education system is going to absolute shit which quite obviously limits upward social mobility even further for Those that are raised in poverty.
Anecdotes about one's own success in climbing the ladder and a few examples here and there of others means absolutely nothing. Of course it's possible, the point is that it's far more unlikely in America post-Reagan.
I'm not even sure what he's actually trying to argue. All actual evidence and studies show that upward social mobility in the US has become incredibly poor in relation to other first world countries, and is progressively getting worse. It also shows that the American public education system is going to absolute shit which quite obviously limits upward social mobility even further for Those that are raised in poverty.
Anecdotes about one's own success in climbing the ladder and a few examples here and there of others means absolutely nothing. Of course it's possible, the point is that it's far more unlikely in America post-Reagan.
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I'm not even sure what he's actually trying to argue. All actual evidence and studies show that upward social mobility in the US has become incredibly poor in relation to other first world countries, and is progressively getting worse. It also shows that the American public education system is going to absolute shit which quite obviously limits upward social mobility even further for Those that are raised in poverty.
Anecdotes about one's own success in climbing the ladder and a few examples here and there of others means absolutely nothing. Of course it's possible, the point is that it's far more unlikely in America post-Reagan.
Oh, wait.. Trump.
I'm not even sure what he's actually trying to argue. All actual evidence and studies show that upward social mobility in the US has become incredibly poor in relation to other first world countries, and is progressively getting worse. It also shows that the American public education system is going to absolute shit which quite obviously limits upward social mobility even further for Those that are raised in poverty.
Anecdotes about one's own success in climbing the ladder and a few examples here and there of others means absolutely nothing. Of course it's possible, the point is that it's far more unlikely in America post-Reagan.
I think everyone here agrees with the fact it's entirely possible. It's also entirely possible in Liberia and Chechnya even if far more unlikely than in America. I'm sure I could find examples in third world civil war zones of people escaping circumstance and making something more of themselves. Does that mean I should label everyone who doesn't a failure in those countries too, or say they just didn't try hard enough or attempt enough different paths to success?
No one wants to discuss whether upward social mobility and the American dream are possible in the right circumstance or not. The relevant discussion is with regard to understanding why upward social mobility and the "American dream" have become so much more difficult to attain over the last 35 years.
No one wants to discuss whether upward social mobility and the American dream are possible in the right circumstance or not. The relevant discussion is with regard to understanding why upward social mobility and the "American dream" have become so much more difficult to attain over the last 35 years.
This picture's pretty much on point, when it comes to dumbass 'muricans such as Hustini's ignorance and naivety when it comes to 'the american dream'
But but but but it's MY american dream
But but but but it's MY american dream
Watch this:
Never claimed I did.
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Thing is, we can write this over and over again, and we can deliver empirical evidence. It won't change a thing for Hustini. To him it's a fundamental question of belief. If he doesn't believe it, it doesn't exist. He isn't capable of removing himself from this, and with this stubborness begins a merry-go-round of derailing and fallacies.
He'll never admit to being wrong or just ignorant on the matter. Instead he'll either ignore or start the merry-go-round again.
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Thing is, we can write this over and over again, and we can deliver empirical evidence. It won't change a thing for Hustini. To him it's a fundamental question of belief. If he doesn't believe it, it doesn't exist. He isn't capable of removing himself from this, and with this stubborness begins a merry-go-round of derailing and fallacies.
He'll never admit to being wrong or just ignorant on the matter. Instead he'll either ignore or start the merry-go-round again.
Liek wat? 
Let's just say you didn't get it at all. And by it I mean the point of my post.
Let's just say you didn't get it at all. And by it I mean the point of my post.