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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,329
You guys believe this will change something? Well hopefully, but I would definitely be surprised if it did.
I think it's over.

The NY Times and the Washington Post have never been pro Trump, but either newspaper is too big and too serious to open an all out attack on an incumbent president without almost knowing for certain that he will go down soon.
 

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KB824

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2003
31,789
WE got the president we deserved.

In a country where style, more than ever, wins out over substance. Where more people watch the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills than the News. Where a majority of the people in this country can't even name the 50 states.

We got what we deserved. Not every conservative is on board with this absolute train wreck of a "President". I know that I sure as fuck am not.
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
I think it's over.

The NY Times and the Washington Post have never been pro Trump, but either newspaper is too big and too serious to open an all out attack on an incumbent president without almost knowing for certain that he will go down soon.
That has been said thousand of times. That THIS is it, but it always goes to the next even worse thing with nothing changing. Guess wait and see is all that is left :)
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,329
That has been said thousand of times. That THIS is it, but it always goes to the next even worse thing with nothing changing. Guess wait and see is all that is left :)
Not really. The NY Times has been very outspoken regarding Trump. But this goes beyond that. This is the NY Times saying this man needs to be impeached. And the NY Times is not the Huffington Post.
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
I know, but the country elected that man, basically a retard to lead them. You know what it takes for a country to elect a retard? So I'm just not very optimistic in this case anymore. Hopefully...
 

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,885
Lol Putin is now saying he has transcripts of the meeting between Trump and Lavrov and is willing to share it with Congress. Did they tape the meeting in Oval office?


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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,329
Lol Putin is now saying he has transcripts of the meeting between Trump and Lavrov and is willing to share it with Congress. Did they tape the meeting in Oval office?


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:lol: this guy is just having a laugh now.
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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icemaη;5520155 said:
I wonder how he feels about being wrong twice, on different ends of the spectrum? At least with Obama you can understand how one can fall for him. With this guy, you've to be special not to have seen it coming.
Wouldn't call him supporting Obama that wrong tbh. He has his flaws and is generally seen too positively in the general public's eyes (at least here in Europe), but if it comes down to him or Mccain my choice is pretty clear tbh.
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
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Aug 27, 2008
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Wouldn't call him supporting Obama that wrong tbh. He has his flaws and is generally seen too positively in the general public's eyes (at least here in Europe), but if it comes down to him or Mccain my choice is pretty clear tbh.
I don't think it was wrong, he thinks it was and has been very vocal about his regret.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,329
icemaη;5520596 said:
I don't think it was wrong, he thinks it was and has been very vocal about his regret.
He expected Obama to solve all his personal problems. And to make it worse that was around the same time he found out that maybe he wasn't special just because he studied the weather. Tough blow for a person with such an inflated ego.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,493
The Comey memo's coming out, if they truly say what its speculated to say, aint boding well and defenitely most damning, all in all, shitiest couple days for the Donald. Lets see how patient the republicans will remain in their support.

Is the Comey Memo the Beginning of the End for Trump? - The New Yorker


The events of these recent days**—the Comey firing; the opera-buffa intel giveaway with the Russian delegation to the Oval Office; and now the news of the Comey memos—just may be the point of no return for a Presidency that has been a kind of emergency of chaos, incompetence, injustice, and deception from its first days.

But it will be a complicated road, legally and politically. To prove obstruction of justice, the subject must know that there is an investigation against him and take an action to obstruct that investigation with corrupt purpose. The next step, clearly, will be for Congress to inspect James Comey’s memos regarding his meetings and conversations with the President, which were written about Tuesday in the Times. Jason Chaffetz, the chair of the House Oversight Committee, has said that he is prepared to subpoena those memos if they exist.

We are likely to learn a great deal more about Trump’s behavior from those documents. Comey might have been grotesquely mistaken in his judgment regarding the Hillary Clinton e-mail case, but he has a reputation for righteousness and honesty. In Comey’s account, as relayed in the Times, the President, over dinner, demanded an oath of loyalty; Comey promised only his honesty. At the Valentine’s Day meeting in the Oval Office, Trump told the Vice-President and the Attorney General to leave the room before asking Comey to end the investigation into Mike Flynn’s relations with the Russian government. Trump even suggested to Comey that he consider prosecuting and jailing journalists for publishing classified material.

Is it conceivable that Trump made these requests with innocent purpose? Or was he attempting to obstruct justice? The same questions apply to the President’s insistence on firing Comey. First, he asked Comey to shut down the investigation, and, when he refused, the President fired him. Can one contrive an innocent motive in that? And if there are, indeed, tapes of White House conversations, what are the odds that Trump’s version is closer to the truth than Comey’s?
 

duranfj

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Jul 30, 2015
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If Comey really shows clear evidence there's no doubt they have to act fast cuz if Trump find out again some strategy to bend the system... we all r gonna enjoy 8 years of this autocrat
 

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