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Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
The white man's last hurrah
You think only "old white men" support that ?

lets ask the average muslim how they feel about gays and transgenders. better, ask what they would do if their son was one.
We had that in belgium on national television when a rabbi and an iman was asked the question. The answers were insane.

Secondly, dont forget about christian african americans either.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
Cut out the repetitive insults and left the essense for you, so we can have a polite discussion :tup:

Quite honestly, all the US needs from Australia, Canada and Europe is their consumer markets. While on the other hand we need their investments, technology and protection.

And Bannon knows this, hence why he allows Trump to do this shit.



Europe is a fucking pet dog. Dont overstate it. We all want new fighter jets for example.

- Europe's best fighter manufacturs have few nice examples that are decent to good on a great price
- The US best fighter, F22 wont be exported. Their "best on sale" fighter is the F-35 which is disgustingly expensive and overrated
- Russia's F22 equivalent the Sukhoi Pak/Fa wont be exported either, but they have the Mig-35 on sale which is vastly superior over every single plane today that isnt the F22/PakFA

The reasonable thing would be dissing that overpriced F35 and buy cheap european and prime quality russian.

Egypt did that for example.


Europe offcourse, will not do that. We will get the disgustingly overpriced F-35's.


And "oh the strong europe" will have inferior fighters then fucking Egypt





Thats what europe is. a fucking pet dog. A fucking consumer without a spine. The US demands, the US gets. Europe sucks and lavishes the cock balls and anus of Obama cause he was gentle. He signed trade deals that were gentle and lenient for europe.


Trump can bully the shit out of europe and we wont do a fucking thing. What can we do, with Putin smiling next door ?



Europe should learn from this presidency
You are spewing utter nonsense.

You have no practical, intellectual nor academic capacity in this matter. You have a very limited understanding of economics, politology, sociology etc., yet you are stating your opinion (which is founded on very limited knowledge) as facts. There's no coherence in what you write or argue, except you are being apologetic towards Putin and Trump, hate libtards, the media is biased and you are a borderline racist.

Have you wondered that your alleged degree doesn't make an expert on something as complicated as this? You are literally parroting 4chan/reddit/social media-nonsense.

You all of a sudden using fighter jets and the purchase hereof as an argument in this matter is mind-blowingly ignorant.

This zero-sum World you are trying to create is just..

[Infract me if too ad hominem. Dude's on ignore from now on anyways]
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,343
Cut out the repetitive insults and left the essense for you, so we can have a polite discussion :tup:

Quite honestly, all the US needs from Australia, Canada and Europe is their consumer markets. While on the other hand we need their investments, technology and protection.

And Bannon knows this, hence why he allows Trump to do this shit.



Europe is a fucking pet dog. Dont overstate it. We all want new fighter jets for example.

- Europe's best fighter manufacturs have few nice examples that are decent to good on a great price
- The US best fighter, F22 wont be exported. Their "best on sale" fighter is the F-35 which is disgustingly expensive and overrated
- Russia's F22 equivalent the Sukhoi Pak/Fa wont be exported either, but they have the Mig-35 on sale which is vastly superior over every single plane today that isnt the F22/PakFA

The reasonable thing would be dissing that overpriced F35 and buy cheap european and prime quality russian.

Egypt did that for example.


Europe offcourse, will not do that. We will get the disgustingly overpriced F-35's.


And "oh the strong europe" will have inferior fighters then fucking Egypt





Thats what europe is. a fucking pet dog. A fucking consumer without a spine. The US demands, the US gets. Europe sucks and lavishes the cock balls and anus of Obama cause he was gentle. He signed trade deals that were gentle and lenient for europe.


Trump can bully the shit out of europe and we wont do a fucking thing. What can we do, with Putin smiling next door ?



Europe should learn from this presidency
Watch Trump pay.
 

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,899
You think only "old white men" support that ?

lets ask the average muslim how they feel about gays and transgenders. better, ask what they would do if their son was one.
We had that in belgium on national television when a rabbi and an iman was asked the question. The answers were insane.

Secondly, dont forget about christian african americans either.
Muslims have close to zero political leverage. Of course much like any organized religion they hate gays too, but that's irrelevant.
You have a point on African Americans though. California's prop 8 was approved partly because of African Americans voted in blocks in favor of it. But they have bigger reasons to vote against white Christians and their representatives


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GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,837
You think only "old white men" support that ?

lets ask the average muslim how they feel about gays and transgenders. better, ask what they would do if their son was one.
We had that in belgium on national television when a rabbi and an iman was asked the question. The answers were insane.

Secondly, dont forget about christian african americans either.
This whole charade, Trump administration, is the white man's last hurrah, their dominion over the US is done

You are spewing utter nonsense.

You have no practical, intellectual nor academic capacity in this matter. You have a very limited understanding of economics, politology, sociology etc., yet you are stating your opinion (which is founded on very limited knowledge) as facts. There's no coherence in what you write or argue, except you are being apologetic towards Putin and Trump, hate libtards, the media is biased and you are a borderline racist.

Have you wondered that your alleged degree doesn't make an expert on something as complicated as this? You are literally parroting 4chan/reddit/social media-nonsense.

You all of a sudden using fighter jets and the purchase hereof as an argument in this matter is mind-blowingly ignorant.

This zero-sum World you are trying to create is just..

[Infract me if too ad hominem. Dude's on ignore from now on anyways]
Good summary tbh

Christian right's deal with the devil.


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Indeed, he is as far removed from anything Christian as one can be
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Is it really this hard to engage in discussion without the insults and namecalling ?

If you are so greatly superior, it must be very easy to come up with counterarguments, and i will read and respond to them.



I read incredibly idiotic stuff many times when i visit the gym section. Whether its training, biochemically or nutrition related.
I always take my time to respond in a respectfull matter if the person does the same to me.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,343
Is it really this hard to engage in discussion without the insults and namecalling ?

If you are so greatly superior, it must be very easy to come up with counterarguments, and i will read and respond to them.



I read incredibly idiotic stuff many times when i visit the gym section. Whether its training, biochemically or nutrition related.
I always take my time to respond in a respectfull matter if the person does the same to me.

I understand his frustration. He's right. At this point you're not engaging in a debate anymore, you're just being apologetic for everything Trump does. To be honest, I'm getting quite sick of it too. You really need to start seeing things for what they are, man.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,837
Is it really this hard to engage in discussion without the insults and namecalling ?

If you are so greatly superior, it must be very easy to come up with counterarguments, and i will read and respond to them.



I read incredibly idiotic stuff many times when i visit the gym section. Whether its training, biochemically or nutrition related.
I always take my time to respond in a respectfull matter if the person does the same to me.
I applaud your restraint and patience in this thread, really do but some of your positions and hubris here deserve some flak tbh
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,326
He's been playing the devils advocate here for quite a while and it is starting to get annoying. You can only be apologetic for so long before realizing what's infront of you. Zach won't simply because he doesn't want to and will make no effort to see otherwise.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,343
Really ?



:lol:

its impossible to get infracted by insulting me. You can do it repeatedly in every post you make, nothing will happen.

I dont report either.

No, you can continue to do what you are doing. Its really quite allowed.

The problem is Zach that it's not obvious why you're doing this. It seems as if you realise that the Trump administration is doing all sorts of things that are nowhere near okay, but you're just twisting and turning to justify their behaviour.

So my question is, why?

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Muslims have close to zero political leverage. Of course much like any organized religion they hate gays too, but that's irrelevant.
You have a point on African Americans though. California's prop 8 was approved partly because of African Americans voted in blocks in favor of it. But they have bigger reasons to vote against white Christians and their representatives


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Not only internally in the US, but in Europe though. And internationally I don't think muslim countries are strong enough to really have their voices heard. Imo, but I could very well be completely wrong about this I admit, it's one of the reasons some resort to extremism.
 

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