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Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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Khamaneei clearly said he preferred Trump to Clinton during the elections, so did other radicals over there, then we have Russia and its relationship with Iran and Trump, then obviously we have the likes of Giuliani and Bolton and their relationship with Mojahedin, then freaking Sepah tests a missile; I can't wrap my head around it.
Autocrats like each other. Trump and Khamenei are not playing a zero sum game here. Khamenei and his loyalists have already started to crack down on dual citizens serving in the high government positions. So They should not be entirely unhappy about this new ban.
The rest of what you said is pretty worrisome. I think IRGC tested the missile to test Trump administration, or at least I hope that it was just a test. Russia and Iran's relationship will not a two-way one if US and Russia become allies under Trump.
 

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Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Trump's speech transcript for Black History Month.

Well the election, it came out really well. Next time we’ll triple the number (of black votes) or quadruple it. We want to get it over 51, right. At least 51.

Well, this is Black History Month, so this is our little breakfast, our little get-together. And just a few notes. During this month, we honour the tremendous history of the African-Americans throughout our country. Throughout the world, if you really think about it, right. And their story is one of unimaginable sacrifice, hard work, and faith in America. I’ve gotten a real glimpse during the campaign; I’d go around with Ben to a lot of places that I wasn’t so familiar with. They’re incredible people. And I want to thank Ben Carson, who’s going to be heading up HUD (Housing and Urban Development), and it’s a big job, and it’s a job that’s not only housing, it’s mind and spirit, right? And you understand that. Nobody’s going to be better than Ben.

Last month we celebrated the life of Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. whose incredible example is unique in American history. You read all about Dr. Martin Luther King a week ago when somebody said I took the statue out of my office. And it turned out that that was fake news. The statue is cherished. It’s one of the favourite things — and we have some good ones. We have Lincoln, and we have Jefferson, and we have Dr. Martin Luther King. And we have other. But they said the statue, the bust, of Dr. Martin Luther King was taken out of the office. And it was never even touched. So I think it was a disgrace, but that’s the way the press is. It’s very unfortunate.

I am very proud now that we have a museum, National Mall, where people can learn about Reverend King, so many other things, Frederick Doug — Douglass is an example of somebody who’s done an amazing job that is being recognized more and more, I notice. Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks, and millions more black Americans who made America what it is today. Big impact. I’m proud to honour this heritage and will be honouring it more and more.

Folks at the table, in almost all cases, have been great friends and supporters. And Darrell, I met Darrell when he was defending me on television. And the people that were on the other side of the argument didn’t have a chance, right. And Paris has done an amazing job in a very hostile CNN community; he’s all by himself. Seven people and Paris. I’ll take Paris over the seven. But I don’t watch CNN, so I don’t get to see you as much. I don’t like watching fake news. But Fox has treated me very nice, wherever Fox is, thank you. We’re going to need better schools, and we need ‘em soon. We need more jobs, we need better wages, a lot better wages. We’re going to work very hard on the inner city. Ben’s going to be doing that, big league, that’s one of his big things that we’re going to be looking at. We need safer communities and we’re going to do that with law enforcement. We’re going to make it safe. We’re going to make it much better than it is right now. Right now it’s terrible.

I saw you talking about it the other night, Paris, on something else that was really — you did a fantastic job the other night on a very unrelated show. I’m ready to do my part, and I will say this, we’re going to work together. This is a great group, this is a group that’s been so special to me, you really helped me a lot. If you remember, I wasn’t going to do well with the African-American community, and after they heard me speaking and talking about the inner city and lots of other things, we ended up getting, I won’t go into details, but we ended up getting substantially more than other candidates who had run in the past years. And now we’re going to take that to new levels. I want to thank my television star over here — Omarosa’s actually a very nice person. Nobody knows that. I don’t want to destroy her reputation. She is a very good person and she’s been helpful right from the beginning with the campaign and I appreciate it, I really do. Very special. So I want to thank everybody for being here.
Trump literally says zero about African Americans, and instead complains about the media being a disgrace and fake news, and brags about how well he did with African Americans compared to past Republicans. He brings up MLK Jr, but not to talk about what this man did, only to complain about disgraceful media treating him unfairly. Brings up Frederick Douglass but seems to have no actual clue what the man did. If you compare to Obama's speeches, or Bush's speeches for Black History Month, it's an absolute abomination of shameless self-promotion and crying about "fake news" and the MSM treating him poorly.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/02/frederick-douglass-trump/515292/

What a turd.
 

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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Trump's speech transcript for Black History Month.



Trump literally says zero about African Americans, and instead complains about the media being a disgrace and fake news, and brags about how well he did with African Americans compared to past Republicans. He brings up MLK Jr, but not to talk about what this man did, only to complain about disgraceful media treating him unfairly. Brings up Frederick Douglass but seems to have no actual clue what the man did. If you compare to Obama's speeches, or Bush's speeches for Black History Month, it's an absolute abomination of shameless self-promotion and crying about "fake news" and the MSM treating him poorly.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/02/frederick-douglass-trump/515292/

What a turd.
He's been doing this since day 1 and still, every single time, I have to double check to see if it's real or is perhaps Onion's or Andy Borowitz'. This one honestly sounded like one of the incredible stories @ALC writes from time to time :lol:
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
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Aug 27, 2008
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He's been doing this since day 1 and still, every single time, I have to double check to see if it's real or is perhaps Onion's or Andy Borowitz'. This one honestly sounded like one of the incredible stories @ALC writes from time to time :lol:
I started reading it and went back to the top to see if there was a disclaimer.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,343
I think we're being too harsh on Zach. It looks like he's struggling to get out of the web that Trump's campaign spun about fake news and media bias but he is trying.
It is all painfully slow though.

I'm not a trump supporter. But i can give you good feedback of how his voters think. Just ask me about it

You've been doing everything you could to defend the man. I know where you're coming from. You're kind of like me in a way. When 100 others make the argument that a person is no good, I will try to dismantle their case and argue for the good in him.

But in this case the majority is absolutely right. And I must remind you that you have no moral obligation to keep supporting this man. Let him go, dude. You made a wrong judgment call. It happens.

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A better question is why
Trump doesn't know why. Stop assuming that he has a plan. He's just making stuff up.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Trump doesn't know why. Stop assuming that he has a plan. He's just making stuff up.
Well, if he's going to attack a person, its because he can gain something for himself "or for amurica"(amounts to the same).


So i wondered what, apparently its a refugee thing, but i havent looked it up yet
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,343
Well, if he's going to attack a person, its because he can gain something for himself "or for amurica"(amounts to the same).


So i wondered what, apparently its a refugee thing, but i havent looked it up yet

It's because he doesn't feel like honouring a deal Obama made. He doesn't really know if it's a good deal for America or not. He just doesn't feel like it. So he throws a tantrum.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
A better question is why
Well, if he's going to attack a person, its because he can gain something for himself "or for amurica"(amounts to the same).


So i wondered what, apparently its a refugee thing, but i havent looked it up yet
Please look up narcissistic personality disorder.

And stop assuming Trump's some sort of Wizard. He's a diplomatic disaster; that's not even up for debate. For crying out loud the dude can't control himself. IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO FATHOM!

Your apologetic behaviour is straight out cray cray.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Please look up narcissistic personality disorder.

And stop assuming Trump's some sort of Wizard. He's a diplomatic disaster; that's not even up for debate. For crying out loud the dude can't control himself. IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO FATHOM!

Your apologetic behaviour is straight out cray cray.
Wizzard ?


I just asked why he would do that ? It could be an amazingly brilliant reason. Or a retarded one.


How am i appologising for just asking why he would attack someone ?



If you slap a person, and i asked why
- 'He got brown hair' would be a retarded reason
- 'He cuck'd me', would make me encourage you more


I'm judging after each new development, not on beforehand. That doesnt make me an appologist.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
Wizzard ?


I just asked why he would do that ? It could be an amazingly brilliant reason. Or a retarded one.


How am i appologising for just asking why he would attack someone ?



If you slap a person, and i asked why
- 'He got brown hair' would be a retarded reason
- 'He cuck'd me', would make me encourage you more


I'm judging after each new development, not on beforehand. That doesnt make me an appologist.
Look up apologetic then go thru your repetitive behaviour every single time someone points out another one of Trump's erratic action or borderline fascist decrees.

And no, you're NOT judging after each new development. You are so caught up in your own bias, you don't even see it, despite being so quick to throw around bias-accusation towards others. You are cruise controlling on automatic pilot.

Australia is one of few coutries that could actually be expected to be a close ally of Trump and Bannon. There's not a brilliant plan behind his outburts. There simply isn't. Diplomacy requires patience and knowledge. Trump got neither. Alienating yourself from even your closest allies in beyond stupid. America needs Australia, Canada, Europe etc. to become "great" again. This isn't 1880.

This is basic stuff in 'International Relations for Dummies'
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Australia is one of few coutries that could actually be expected to be a close ally of Trump and Bannon. There's not a brilliant plan behind his outburts. There simply isn't. Diplomacy requires patience and knowledge. Trump got neither. Alienating yourself from even your closest allies in beyond stupid. America needs Australia, Canada, Europe etc. to become "great" again. This isn't 1880.
Cut out the repetitive insults and left the essense for you, so we can have a polite discussion :tup:

Quite honestly, all the US needs from Australia, Canada and Europe is their consumer markets. While on the other hand we need their investments, technology and protection.

And Bannon knows this, hence why he allows Trump to do this shit.



Europe is a fucking pet dog. Dont overstate it. We all want new fighter jets for example.

- Europe's best fighter manufacturs have few nice examples that are decent to good on a great price
- The US best fighter, F22 wont be exported. Their "best on sale" fighter is the F-35 which is disgustingly expensive and overrated
- Russia's F22 equivalent the Sukhoi Pak/Fa wont be exported either, but they have the Mig-35 on sale which is vastly superior over every single plane today that isnt the F22/PakFA

The reasonable thing would be dissing that overpriced F35 and buy cheap european and prime quality russian.

Egypt did that for example.


Europe offcourse, will not do that. We will get the disgustingly overpriced F-35's.


And "oh the strong europe" will have inferior fighters then fucking Egypt





Thats what europe is. a fucking pet dog. A fucking consumer without a spine. The US demands, the US gets. Europe sucks and lavishes the cock balls and anus of Obama cause he was gentle. He signed trade deals that were gentle and lenient for europe.


Trump can bully the shit out of europe and we wont do a fucking thing. What can we do, with Putin smiling next door ?



Europe should learn from this presidency
 

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