'Murica! (326 Viewers)

[Post Ironic]

Wow! So I witness this unfair media gang-up and dare to express my disgust, and that immediately makes me an anti-intellectual. Now, that's exactly what I was talking about.

What on earth are you talking about... Let's ignore all the right wing media that's doing the exact same thing then? Fox News. Breitbart. And so on.

The only reason Trump got to this point was basically free media coverage and advertising from mainstream media like CNN, NBC, NYT, etc.

It's ironic, and quite amusing, that the same media is now tearing his campaign apart.

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http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016...-u-s-is-a-high-tax-country-hes-wrong-so-what/

Mr. Trump said during Sunday’s presidential debate the U.S. is “just about” the highest-taxed country in the world. Here’s a more expansive version from Oct. 6 in New Hampshire, according to a CBS transcript:

“We’re already [the] highest-tax nation in the world. Just about. They can maybe find—every once in a while they’ll say, they’ll fact-check me, 'Well, there’s a nation that you never heard of where it’s slightly higher.’ We are just about, of the industrialized nations, we’re the highest taxpayers in the world.”

The Republican candidate is not right. The U.S. is a low-tax country, well below countries you have heard of such as Canada, Germany and Japan.

In 2014, according to the latest data available, the U.S. collected 26% of gross domestic product in taxes, under the 34.4% average for major industrialized nations.

Yes, that includes federal, state and local taxes. And yes, that’s the best measure of the overall tax burden, showing how big a piece of the economy the government takes.

at Trump trying to say that the US is the highest taxed country in the industrialized world. Apparently Americans have never heard of Canada, Germany, Japan, amongst others.

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NFL player says no one talks like Trump in the locker room.

http://www.vox.com/first-person/201...nt=entry&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

 

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[swag]

What on earth are you talking about... Let's ignore all the right wing media that's doing the exact same thing then? Fox News. Breitbart. And so on.

The only reason Trump got to this point was basically free media coverage and advertising from mainstream media like CNN, NBC, NYT, etc.

It's ironic, and quite amusing, that the same media is now tearing his campaign apart.

True. The media wanted to sell viewer advertising based on a TV personality who probably never ever belonged in politics to begin with. So in some ways Trump is a creation of their making.

NFL player says no one talks like Trump in the locker room.

http://www.vox.com/first-person/201...nt=entry&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Pardon my British English, but the guy is quite literally a punter. On an NFL team, that's like the drummer in a rock band in terms of sexual desirability.

 

[donpiero]

Jesus it's your own words bro. I did not make it up. Scroll up and read again.

Nah, I just pointed put what I was seeing, wasn't saying I'm anti-intellectual per se, that was your attempt at branding me just because of my opinion.

 

[Ronn]

Nah, I just pointed put what I was seeing, wasn't saying I'm anti-intellectual per se, that was your attempt at branding me just because of my opinion.

let's try again

The more I witness this lopsided, blatantly biased, shameless support of Clinton and the petulant reactions to everything Trump, from this whole lot of "supposedly" objectivity-driven, educated journalist and media, intellectuals, celebrities, public figures, you name it, that one way or another have found a niche for themselves in the spotlight as the "in-the-know" elites, the more I wish Trump wins, just to see this utterly disgusting bunch's faces after the results are announced.

 

[Post Ironic]

True. The media wanted to sell viewer advertising based on a TV personality who probably never ever belonged in politics to begin with. So in some ways Trump is a creation of their making.



Pardon my British English, but the guy is quite literally a punter. On an NFL team, that's like the drummer in a rock band in terms of sexual desirability.

It's more like the flautist that the rock band hires for occasional little bits of songs.

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let's try again

Did you read this:

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/election/article107263502.html

Trump fired a female contestant off the apprentice for "locker room talk"

“Isn’t it sort of gross bringing that up? It’s like disgusting,” Trump said. “This is my board room. It’s not a locker room. Maria, you’re fired.”

 

[Ronn]

It's more like the flautist that the rock band hires for occasional little bits of songs.

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Did you read this:

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/election/article107263502.html

Trump fired a female contestant off the apprentice for "locker room talk"

He's scared of competition

 

[piotrr]

 

[campionesidd]

Wow! So I witness this unfair media gang-up and dare to express my disgust, and that immediately makes me an anti-intellectual. Now, that's exactly what I was talking about.

There's nothing unfair about the media targeting Trump. It's all his own doing.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Wow! So I witness this unfair media gang-up and dare to express my disgust, and that immediately makes me an anti-intellectual. Now, that's exactly what I was talking about.

To be precise it makes you an anti coherent speech bigot, your kind condemned socrates to death and roasted marshmallows in auto da fes

 

[Bjerknes]

True. The media wanted to sell viewer advertising based on a TV personality who probably never ever belonged in politics to begin with. So in some ways Trump is a creation of their making.

Not really, though. Trump's rise is due to folks not trusting the political elite, which is how he won the primaries. Fox News was always pushing Jeb in the beginning as well.

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The more I witness this lopsided, blatantly biased, shameless support of Clinton and the petulant reactions to everything Trump, from this whole lot of "supposedly" objectivity-driven, educated journalist and media, intellectuals, celebrities, public figures, you name it, that one way or another have found a niche for themselves in the spotlight as the "in-the-know" elites, the more I wish Trump wins, just to see this utterly disgusting bunch's faces after the results are announced.

The criminals will always flock towards the bigger criminal. It's also funny how they canned Billy Bush (which by all accounts he is a great guy, supposedly) just to prop up the attack on Trump. But this goes back to how the country is basically a politically correct police state now.

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I think this has to be looked back upon as a golden opportunity for the American political system to inject a viable third party candidate -- at which it's been an absolute failure. You can't even get a person up there who's heard of Aleppo to change the conversation.

Let's hope that is possible. Otherwise I'm moving to Nicaragua.

 

[Seven]

To be precise it makes you an anti coherent speech bigot, your kind condemned socrates to death and roasted marshmallows in auto da fes

But, the media are ganging up on Trump and it is an issue. We overlook that because of the greater evil, but fact is it's that kind of reporting that made Trump happen in the first place.

 

[Ronn]

To be precise it makes you an anti coherent speech bigot, your kind condemned socrates to death and roasted marshmallows in auto da fes

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But, the media are ganging up on Trump and it is an issue. We overlook that because of the greater evil, but fact is it's that kind of reporting that made Trump happen in the first place.

What makes that unfair? didn't they also roast Clinton for "basket of deplorables" comment?

 

[swag]

To be precise it makes you an anti coherent speech bigot, your kind condemned socrates to death and roasted marshmallows in auto da fes

Brilliant as usu

 

[donpiero]

let's try again

How about we try that again with you:
Did it occur to you that there might also be this other -however small- group of intellectuals, elites, et al, that may think, "Alright, as horrible and unworthy of presidency as this Trump guy may be, we have the obligation to the public to be as fair and impartial as we can in our presentation of both candidates' good and evil, and let them be the judge. So let's not try to shove who we think is the right choice, down people's throats."?
Doesn't this group also count as intellectuals? Am I wrong to want the intellectuals I look up to, to act in such a way? How hard is it to understand that this won't automatically make me an anti-intellectual as a whole?

 

[Ocelot]

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016...-u-s-is-a-high-tax-country-hes-wrong-so-what/



at Trump trying to say that the US is the highest taxed country in the industrialized world. Apparently Americans have never heard of Canada, Germany, Japan, amongst others.

I didn't even catch that

Among the developed countries, the US is just about the lowest taxed country ffs

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Not really, though. Trump's rise is due to folks not trusting the political elite, which is how he won the primaries. Fox News was always pushing Jeb in the beginning as well.

That is actually true.

I mean the media gave him attention at the beginning, and they've been doing a horrible job of actually informing the public during the past few years, but I never found the idea of them directly sponsoring Trump's rise with their coverage of him very convincing.

Of course they did certainly play a huge role in creating the political and social climate that enabled Trump in the long term.

The criminals will always flock towards the bigger criminal. It's also funny how they canned Billy Bush (which by all accounts he is a great guy, supposedly) just to prop up the attack on Trump. But this goes back to how the country is basically a politically correct police state now.

I see you have absolutely no idea what a police state actually is.

But, the media are ganging up on Trump and it is an issue. We overlook that because of the greater evil, but fact is it's that kind of reporting that made Trump happen in the first place.

Do they though? I don't really think so.

Imagine any other politician had the same unprecedented quantity and quality of scandals, I don't think they'd be going any more or less hard on him/her either.

He gets a lot of negative coverage for sure, but that doesn't mean that there's any particular intrinsical bias against him.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

But, the media are ganging up on Trump and it is an issue. We overlook that because of the greater evil, but fact is it's that kind of reporting that made Trump happen in the first place.

You can't say ridiculous shit to get about a billion dollars worth of free media coverage, and then complain that they in turn used you.

 

[Enron]

Nah, he won't be any worse than the kind of a lying, power-hungry, control-freak, coward that other nominee is.


Well, it obviously is not, but then again, it's human nature that the more you try, with all your might and power, to put it in people's skulls that what you think is absolutely right and they should do exactly as what you want them to do, the more it creates resentment and resistance in that said people, and they tend to do the exact opposite of what you're desperately trying to convince them to do. So if Trump in fact wins this election, I contribute part of it to this desperate media-frenzy against him.

Which is ironic because until the general he was a media darling. The media is a responsible for him becoming the nominee as anyone. Now they are freaking out.

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Wow! So I witness this unfair media gang-up and dare to express my disgust, and that immediately makes me an anti-intellectual. Now, that's exactly what I was talking about.

How is the media gang up unfair? Doesnt Trump bring it on himself?

 

[donpiero]

How is the media gang up unfair? Doesnt Trump bring it on himself?

Because they blow up everything Trump does, and try their best to cover-up or paint as trivial everything Clinton does. Blatant hypocrisy.

 

[acmilan]

You can't say ridiculous shit to get about a billion dollars worth of free media coverage, and then complain that they in turn used you.

Apparently you can ... just ask all the trumpettes out there ... or here

 

[Salvo]

This is so far removed from what it's supposed to be about that this election already feels like a total defeat for everyone involved.

I'm sure everyone, Clinton or Trump supporter, will agree that this presidential race has set a new low for ad hominem attacks.

The media too seem to have forgotten their job and are now just shooting at Trump every chance they get (making him stronger in the process).

I think this will go down in history as the moment the American public realised things had to change.

it's ridiculous.