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[ALC]

It's not about policies because Trump has no real policies. He has a bunch of vague, shifting, goals. But he really hasn't outlined how he actually plans to achieve any of them. Secret foreign policy plans, lower taxes and manufacturing returns (as though it's as simple as that), make police strong, slash federal regulations 70% (meanwhile his campaign says 10%), and so on.

Hillary might be cold and callous, and power hungry (like almost every career politician), but at least she has laid out real policies and plans for her potential presidency, and she discusses them at her conferences, on her campaign website, fields questions about them, etc.

This campaign has devolved into ad hominem because Trump has no clue and has laid out the policies of a 3rd grader. He's escaped most scrutiny for it by turning the election campaign into a nightmare of absurdity.

He's going to just do it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c2DgwPG7mAA

 

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[swag]

This guy

But Mrs. Robot is looking just as 70s scary. That looks like a reboot of the Addams Family with Morticia Clinton and Lurch Trump.

This is so far removed from what it's supposed to be about that this election already feels like a total defeat for everyone involved.

I'm sure everyone, Clinton or Trump supporter, will agree that this presidential race has set a new low for ad hominem attacks.

The media too seem to have forgotten their job and are now just shooting at Trump every chance they get (making him stronger in the process).

I think this will go down in history as the moment the American public realised things had to change.

I think this has to be looked back upon as a golden opportunity for the American political system to inject a viable third party candidate -- at which it's been an absolute failure. You can't even get a person up there who's heard of Aleppo to change the conversation.

Politics have become more partisan over the years -- I've lost count how many times a candidate gets elected to office only to have the "impeach" car bumper stickers come out regardless of party affiliation -- that things have become sectarian and completely stagnant. It's as if Greece exported its political dysfunction and we signed up big on the dotted line.

 

[Ronn]

It's not about policies because Trump has no real policies. He has a bunch of vague, shifting, goals. But he really hasn't outlined how he actually plans to achieve any of them. Secret foreign policy plans, lower taxes and manufacturing returns (as though it's as simple as that), make police strong, slash federal regulations 70% (meanwhile his campaign says 10%), and so on.

Hillary might be cold and callous, and power hungry (like almost every career politician), but at least she has laid out real policies and plans for her potential presidency, and she discusses them at her conferences, on her campaign website, fields questions about them, etc.

This campaign has devolved into ad hominem because Trump has no clue and has laid out the policies of a 3rd grader. He's escaped most scrutiny for it by turning the election campaign into a nightmare of absurdity.

This is actually written for Nixon vs Humphrey election in 1968, but very true for this election:

 

[swag]

Nice

But how come it's a platter of shit and not a bowl of Skittles?

 

[Ronn]

Maybe Skittles were not around at 1968?

 

[Post Ironic]

This is actually written for Nixon vs Humphrey election in 1968, but very true for this election:

So appropriate.

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Skittles were first made in 1974.

 

[campionesidd]

All Trump did yesterday was bitch about everything imaginable and offered zero solutions. Nothing. Nada. Zilch

The guy wants to get rid of the EPA, for fucks sake.
Also, comparing China's GDP growth rate to America's. Jeez. The guy doesn't know basic economics.
He's wants to improve healthcare and infrastructure. How is he going to do that by cutting taxes and spending trillions more on defense?
He acts like a tough guy who can negotiate any deal in the world, but was moaning how the moderators were unfair on him.
Criticized Obama and Hillary for being hawkish in Libya, but wants to do the same in Syria.
Threatening to jail Clinton makes him no better than Putin or Erdogan.
Oh and don't even get me started on his response on the 2005 tapes.

 

[Ocelot]

He's not. A calm and collected person who knows he is not the only person in the world says 'I have respect for women'. You'd have to be nuts to say 'I have respect for women. No one has more'. What kind of fucked up sentence is that? He's always the best, the biggest, has the most.. He's a deluded narcissistic fuck who is one of the symptoms of a deeply mentally troubled society.

I understand hyperbole. But it's every fucking sentence. At first I thought it was a show. It's not. It's what he is. If the US elect him, they have a big problem.

It should be stupid, but if you're still somewhat undecided at this point...

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In general though, some of the fault is inherent to the system of a highly personalised presidential system, policy issues are almost bound to take a backseat here.

Not to say that the same can't happen in a multi-party system, but it's certainly far less common.

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I think this will go down in history as the moment the American public realised things had to change.

Think you're being a bit too optimistic here tbh

 

[swag]

Contrary to public opinion, I give "Undecided" voters a little more benefit of the doubt. Meaning: "Undecided" means "Do I choose Darth Vader or Hitler, with the additional option of blowing a protest vote on some random clown?"

 

[radekas]

Contrary to public opinion, I give "Undecided" voters a little more benefit of the doubt. Meaning: "Undecided" means "Do I choose Darth Vader or Hitler, with the additional option of blowing a protest vote on some random clown?"

that's an easy choice

 

[donpiero]

The more I witness this lopsided, blatantly biased, shameless support of Clinton and the petulant reactions to everything Trump, from this whole lot of "supposedly" objectivity-driven, educated journalist and media, intellectuals, celebrities, public figures, you name it, that one way or another have found a niche for themselves in the spotlight as the "in-the-know" elites, the more I wish Trump wins, just to see this utterly disgusting bunch's faces after the results are announced.

 

[Osman]

The more I witness this lopsided, blatantly biased, shameless support of Clinton and the petulant reactions to everything Trump, from this whole lot of "supposedly" objectivity-driven, educated journalist and media, intellectuals, celebrities, public figures, you name it, that one way or another have found a niche for themselves in the spotlight as the "in-the-know" elites, the more I wish Trump wins, just to see this utterly disgusting bunch's faces after the results are announced.

And what will you do when Trump turns out worse then anyone could even imagined?

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[Ronn]

All Trump did yesterday was bitch about everything imaginable and offered zero solutions. Nothing. Nada. Zilch

The guy wants to get rid of the EPA, for fucks sake.
Also, comparing China's GDP growth rate to America's. Jeez. The guy doesn't know basic economics.
He's wants to improve healthcare and infrastructure. How is he going to do that by cutting taxes and spending trillions more on defense?
He acts like a tough guy who can negotiate any deal in the world, but was moaning how the moderators were unfair on him.
Criticized Obama and Hillary for being hawkish in Libya, but wants to do the same in Syria.
Threatening to jail Clinton makes him no better than Putin or Erdogan.
Oh and don't even get me started on his response on the 2005 tapes.

I disagree. He knows very well that Chinese GDP growth rate is a very high bar and that's exactly why he uses it. His recent line of attack is that our recovery under Obama has been the slowest since 1929! That sentence, of course, is too vague to be taken seriously, but it wants you to believe its simple message: Obama is the worst leader since 1929!
I haven't seen this much deception in any election, barring perhaps for Ahmadinejad who had his own numbers. People who call Hillary liar and stay silent on Trump are either fools, or compare each candidate to people in their own league, which for Hillary is other national politicians; and for Trump is likes of Kim Kardashian and Kanye West.

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The more I witness this lopsided, blatantly biased, shameless support of Clinton and the petulant reactions to everything Trump, from this whole lot of "supposedly" objectivity-driven, educated journalist and media, intellectuals, celebrities, public figures, you name it, that one way or another have found a niche for themselves in the spotlight as the "in-the-know" elites, the more I wish Trump wins, just to see this utterly disgusting bunch's faces after the results are announced.

Who said this support for Trump is more an anti-intellectual movement than anything else?

 

[campionesidd]

I disagree. He knows very well that Chinese GDP growth rate is a very high bar and that's exactly why he uses it. His recent line of attack is that our recovery under Obama has been the slowest since 1929! That sentence, of course, is too vague to be taken seriously, but it wants you to believe its simple message: Obama is the worst leader since 1929!
I haven't seen this much deception in any election, barring perhaps for Ahmadinejad who had his own numbers. People who call Hillary liar and stay silent on Trump are either fools, or compare each candidate to people in their own league, which for Hillary is other national politicians; and for Trump is likes of Kim Kardashian and Kanye West.

Fact-checking Trump is really difficult, the guy moves on to another lie or deception before you can point out the first one.

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I should have worded that sentence differently. 'The guy is still alive in the race because many Americans know nothing about basic economics, and are easily deceived by misleading statistics'. (Most people don't the know the difference between debt and deficit, and that a majority of federal debt is owed to the government itself, and only a small chunk is owed to foreign entities.)

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The more I witness this lopsided, blatantly biased, shameless support of Clinton and the petulant reactions to everything Trump, from this whole lot of "supposedly" objectivity-driven, educated journalist and media, intellectuals, celebrities, public figures, you name it, that one way or another have found a niche for themselves in the spotlight as the "in-the-know" elites, the more I wish Trump wins, just to see this utterly disgusting bunch's faces after the results are announced.

Cutting off the nose to spite the face.

 

[Ronn]

Fact-checking Trump is really difficult, the guy moves on to another lie or deception before you can point out the first one.

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I should have worded that sentence differently. 'The guy is still alive in the race because many Americans know nothing about basic economics, and are easily deceived by misleading statistics'. (Most people don't the know the difference between debt and deficit, and that a majority of federal debt is owed to the government itself, and only a small chunk is owed to foreign entities.)

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Cutting off the nose to spite the face.

It's actually 30%, but your point is still true
https://www.thebalance.com/who-owns-the-u-s-national-debt-3306124

 

[donpiero]

And what will you do when Trump turns out worse then anyone could even imagined?
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Nah, he won't be any worse than the kind of a lying, power-hungry, control-freak, coward that other nominee is.

Who said this support for Trump is more an anti-intellectual movement than anything else?

Well, it obviously is not, but then again, it's human nature that the more you try, with all your might and power, to put it in people's skulls that what you think is absolutely right and they should do exactly as what you want them to do, the more it creates resentment and resistance in that said people, and they tend to do the exact opposite of what you're desperately trying to convince them to do. So if Trump in fact wins this election, I contribute part of it to this desperate media-frenzy against him.

 

[Ronn]

Nah, he won't be any worse than the kind of a lying, power-hungry, control-freak, coward that other nominee is.


Well, it obviously is not, but then again, it's human nature that the more you try, with all your might and power, to put it in people's skulls that what you think is absolutely right and they should do exactly as what you want them to do, the more it creates resentment and resistance in that said people, and they tend to do the exact opposite of what you're desperately trying to convince them to do. So if Trump in fact wins this election, I contribute part of it to this desperate media-frenzy against him.

Obviously? It is obvious from your own post railing against intellectuals and elites that it is.

 

[swag]

The more I witness this lopsided, blatantly biased, shameless support of Clinton and the petulant reactions to everything Trump, from this whole lot of "supposedly" objectivity-driven, educated journalist and media, intellectuals, celebrities, public figures, you name it, that one way or another have found a niche for themselves in the spotlight as the "in-the-know" elites, the more I wish Trump wins, just to see this utterly disgusting bunch's faces after the results are announced.

Yeah. Damn them darkies and filthy immos!

 

[donpiero]

Obviously? It is obvious from your own post railing against intellectuals and elites that it is.

Wow! So I witness this unfair media gang-up and dare to express my disgust, and that immediately makes me an anti-intellectual. Now, that's exactly what I was talking about.

 

[Ronn]

Wow! So I witness this unfair media gang-up and dare to express my disgust, and that immediately makes me an anti-intellectual. Now, that's exactly what I was talking about.

Jesus it's your own words bro. I did not make it up. Scroll up and read again.