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[Ocelot]

Always been that way, newt is right people vote with feelings

Yeah, but I don't remember any politicians ever so consistently going against the very notion of facts as the majority of Republicans are doing today.

Usually it's just twisting the facts to suit your agenda, not saying fuck facts in general - and that is still a huge difference, even if the original position was hardly perfect.

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

Yeah, but I don't remember any politicians ever so consistently going against the very notion of facts as the majority of Republicans are doing today.

Usually it's just twisting the facts to suit your agenda, not saying fuck facts in general - and that is still a huge difference, even if the original position was hardly perfect.

If you have time

 

[Bjerknes]

These past two weeks have been completely fucking barfworthy. I really need to get out of here.

Dude, how do you survive if you're this naive and easily fooled? Bernie has a responsibility to go for a lesser evil at this point. Which is clearly Hillary.

There you go, Chuck Todd has spoken.

Even someone like Ted Cruz doesn't support Trump because he's against the guy politically. Bernie doesn't have to support anybody, but the about-face that he and some of his supporters did is rather pathetic. Hillary is basically pro-war and global trade agreements, Bernie is the complete opposite -- that is his foundation. They meet in the middle because both are Democratic party and establishment stooges. Either that, or he's being forced to by blackmail or something. He looks miserable.

Yeah, but I don't remember any politicians ever so consistently going against the very notion of facts as the majority of Republicans are doing today.

Usually it's just twisting the facts to suit your agenda, not saying $#@! facts in general - and that is still a huge difference, even if the original position was hardly perfect.

Depends on what you mean by "facts". I would imagine that you mean articles predominately written by leftist statisticians and pundits.

 

[campionesidd]

A perfect response for a candidate who mocks prisoners of war.

 

[Maddy]

Trump calling on Putin and russian intelligence to hack Hillary's email

You guys have got to be kiddin' me, you want him to rule your country.

Oh, wait. Clinton's gonna start WW3

Long live post-factualism :sergoi:

 

[Fr3sh]

Trump calling on Putin and russian intelligence to hack Hillary's email i:

Seriously?!?

 

[Ocelot]

Depends on what you mean by "facts". I would imagine that you mean articles predominately written by leftist statisticians and pundits.

No not at all. Did you watch the video I posted (even though you probably hate the guy, do it for the interview with Gingrich)?

There are plenty of rightist fact-based articles, the vast majority are. Of course I would argue that they present a very incomplete or misleading set of facts or twist them in an illogical way to suit their agenda, but you would say the same about most leftist articles - that's usual politics.

But right now you've got people like Gingrich in the video, or Trump on numerous occasions, who don't even try to work with facts, but simply compeltely dismiss them - and that's a huge step backwards, even from the very imperfect situation we had before.

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If you have time

I'll try later

 

[Maddy]

Seriously?!?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/27/donald-trump-russia-hillary-clinton-emails-dnc-hack

inb4 post-factual retards scream "It's the Guardian" despite the quotes.

 

[Fr3sh]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/27/donald-trump-russia-hillary-clinton-emails-dnc-hack

inb4 post-factual retards scream "It's the Guardian" despite the quotes.

Unbelievable, this guy is simply unbelievable!!

 

[Hust]

She does not view this as a political issue; she views this as a national security issue,” Clinton’s foreign policy adviser, Jake Sullivan, said.

Now she cares about national security

 

[king Ale]

These past two weeks have been completely fucking barfworthy. I really need to get out of here.



There you go, Chuck Todd has spoken.

Even someone like Ted Cruz doesn't support Trump because he's against the guy politically. Bernie doesn't have to support anybody, but the about-face that he and some of his supporters did is rather pathetic. Hillary is basically pro-war and global trade agreements, Bernie is the complete opposite -- that is his foundation. They meet in the middle because both are Democratic party and establishment stooges. Either that, or he's being forced to by blackmail or something. He looks miserable.



Depends on what you mean by "facts". I would imagine that you mean articles predominately written by leftist statisticians and pundits.

Sure:

“I am not in the habit of supporting people who attack my wife and attack my father.”

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Now she cares about national security

I wonder if you will show this the same zeal

http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/07...efing-trump-likely-leaked-classified-secrets/

 

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[icemaη]

I wonder if you will show this the same zeal

http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/07...efing-trump-likely-leaked-classified-secrets/

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[ALC]

Unbelievable, this guy is simply unbelievable!!

“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” he said.


omfg

 

[Bjerknes]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/27/donald-trump-russia-hillary-clinton-emails-dnc-hack

inb4 post-factual retards scream "It's the Guardian" despite the quotes.

What's the big deal? If they already have the hack, why not turn over the emails? Trump isn't advocating spying if they already have the goods, ya dolt.

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I wonder if you will show this the same zeal

http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/07...efing-trump-likely-leaked-classified-secrets/

Public has a right to know where the bases are, we shouldn't be involved with SA anyway. I don't need more excuses to consider voting for Trump.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

What's the big deal? If they already have the hack, why not turn over the emails? Trump isn't advocating spying if they already have the goods, ya dolt.

yes because asking hostile nations to undermine national interest and push personal agenda is not treason, you have become such a joke over the years

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What's the big deal? If they already have the hack, why not turn over the emails? Trump isn't advocating spying if they already have the goods, ya dolt.

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Public has a right to know where the bases are, we shouldn't be involved with SA anyway. I don't need more excuses to consider voting for Trump.

You make no sense so it's only natural for you to vote for him.

 

[Bjerknes]

yes because asking hostile nations to undermine national interest and push personal agenda is not treason, you have become such a joke over the years

He essentially said turn over the emails so that we know what was compromised. Nothing wrong with that since it was our information in the first place. Just think of it as Israel forking it over, our awesome buddy.

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yes because asking hostile nations to undermine national interest and push personal agenda is not treason, you have become such a joke over the years

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You make no sense so it's only natural for you to vote for him.

Thank you for your opinion, I may consider it.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

He essentially said turn over the emails so that we know what was compromised. Nothing wrong with that since it was our information in the first place. Just think of it as Israel forking it over, our awesome buddy.

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Thank you for your opinion, I may consider it.

“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,”

This is called solicitation, and if the agent is a hostile nation it is treason. I can't believe you choose not to see the outrage here.

 

[Bjerknes]

“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,”

This is called solicitation, and if the agent is a hostile nation it is treason. I can't believe you choose not to see the outrage here.

But we have a rogue government as well. If Russia had proof they were dealing with China for instance, who is the real traitor? This sounds like a new Snowden case, he a traitor like too?