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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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And they are discussed only in one paragraph of the article. I don't know where you drew the conclusion that anti-establishment right and Oregon guys are just one entity. In fact, it calls the far right as "a diverse, sometimes contradictory landscape of radical ideologies"
Also, anti-establishment sentiment do not exist only on the right. There's a growing support for it on the left either. Being anti-establishment doesn't mean supporting likes of Trump necessarily.
The clowns in Oregon aren't anti-establishment right nutjobs per se. They're just delusional people living a dying way of life who are grabbing on to the nearest scapegoat they can find -- to salve their own failure to choose the right side of "adapt or die".
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
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Because they are stupid, and they love it.



No way to Kasich. Hillary, Kasich and creepy Cruz should create a new Wall Street party. Bernie is definitely better than Hillary.
I'll admit I haven't looked TOO much into Kasich, but he seemed much more reasonable than Trump or Cruz. Cruz was so bad in the last debate :lol:

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is there a woman running? she'll win it.
Is there a homosexual running? he/she will win it
Is there a lesbian running? no point in competing she'll utterly win over anyone.
Clinton might lose still, and Fiorina barely exists anymore.
 

Valerio.

Senior Member
Jul 5, 2014
5,762
Hillary will surely win.
Bacause of gender reasons plus she the wife of an ex president.
Bit like Kennedy and Bush parents easly go in the white house plus the americans are bombed by media with the need to bring a minority or the weak gender in power.
So after the black islamic dude chances for gay,woman or mexican are so high that not even a bookie would pay anything for them to be elected
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Talk about a steep drop in brain cells in the thread. Dude, you make the average Trump supporter seem like a genius with the above.



Wtf am I saying, you sound exactly like the average Trump supporter with the inane illogical steretotyping, conspiracy lingo and fearmongering.

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This a fantastic article (lots of quotable parts) about Trump and Cruz different but still similar paths they are on the GOP race: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/02/01/the-duel-faceoff-ryan-lizza
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
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Hillary will surely win.
Bacause of gender reasons plus she the wife of an ex president.
Bit like Kennedy and Bush parents easly go in the white house plus the americans are bombed by media with the need to bring a minority or the weak gender in power.
So after the black islamic dude chances for gay,woman or mexican are so high that not even a bookie would pay anything for them to be elected
:lol:
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,330
I like you, Andries. I really do.



They're trying to paint everything the far right stands for as "radical." What is radical about balancing the budget, staying out of foreign affairs, and not trusting known liars in Washington? Is blowing up Iraq and threatening to bomb Iran less radical than that? You tell me.

And what about the DHS? Do you think they should spy on people like me?



I suppose because you are not a cool hipster Bernie Sanders fan.

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Trump fans in denial about this. Did this really happen? Unclear.

Well, you don't have to be much of a hipster to be a Sanders supporter. The other option as a democrat is Hillary and I'm not convinced she's an actual person.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,330
To be completely honest with you, I prefer Sanders over everyone but Rand and maybe Kasich. It looks like a Democrat is going to win the general election no matter what at this point though, so it might as well be him over Clinton.

I'm fighting with my uncle on Facebook right now, he's an avid Trump supporter. I've never seen such bullshit spewed and considered fact :sergio:
I think Sanders will win it. No way the world is so fucked up that Trump gets it. And Hillary will lose to Sanders.
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
18,943
I think Sanders will win it. No way the world is so fucked up that Trump gets it. And Hillary will lose to Sanders.
Rather unlikely sadly. He may be able to win both Iowa & New Hampshire, but after that it's going south for him.

Only way I could see him winning the nomination are blowout victories in the two first states generating enough momentum for him to win over the minorities.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,330
Rather unlikely sadly. He may be able to win both Iowa & New Hampshire, but after that it's going south for him.

Only way I could see him winning the nomination are blowout victories in the two first states generating enough momentum for him to win over the minorities.
No, I see 2008 happening all over again for Hillary. Truth is when push comes to shove people realise they just don't like her enough.
 

AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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They're trying to paint everything the far right stands for as "radical." What is radical about balancing the budget, staying out of foreign affairs, and not trusting known liars in Washington? Is blowing up Iraq and threatening to bomb Iran less radical than that? You tell me.

And what about the DHS? Do you think they should spy on people like me?
No, I don't want to do that. I respect a lot of conservative positions and share a lot of them. "Far right" for me is anyone who shares xenophobic and racist sentiments of likes of trump, and like minded people in Europe. Right is not equal to far right.
And why on earth would I want DHS (or NSA) to spy on you?

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The clowns in Oregon aren't anti-establishment right nutjobs per se. They're just delusional people living a dying way of life who are grabbing on to the nearest scapegoat they can find -- to salve their own failure to choose the right side of "adapt or die".
Very true. These guys are a bunch of idiots. But their idiotic acts are being used by far right for their anti-government propaganda.
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
18,943
The clowns in Oregon aren't anti-establishment right nutjobs per se. They're just delusional people living a dying way of life who are grabbing on to the nearest scapegoat they can find -- to salve their own failure to choose the right side of "adapt or die".
Yes they are, and that doesn't conflict in any way with the second part of your post.

And that's also not to say that they are in any way representative for anti-establishment right or right wing groups.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
Hillary will surely win.
Bacause of gender reasons plus she the wife of an ex president.
Bit like Kennedy and Bush parents easly go in the white house plus the americans are bombed by media with the need to bring a minority or the weak gender in power.
So after the black islamic dude chances for gay,woman or mexican are so high that not even a bookie would pay anything for them to be elected
This guy :sergio:
 

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