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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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It's so depressing to me that he's in the lead. I have fucking family members that support this son of a bitch. It really does upset me way more than it should. I'm really hoping he doesn't win.
Meanwhile, I imagine him thinking, "You stoopid fucks! This shit writes itself, you're so predictable."
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,141
True, the left has been in shambles the past 25 years, ever since Blair & Schröder's amazing idea of the "Third Way" most social democratic parties in Europe don't deserve to be called left anymore. And I don't think the US ever had a left party at any point during the last 40 years.

It's tragic really, the crisis of 2008 should've been the natural chance for leftist movements around the world, but the only thing we got was Occupy.

Except for the few countries where actual left parties got popular due to the cluster$#@! that were the Troika austerity measures.
2008 was a product of central planning. The left blamed Wall Street and gave a free pass to government. That is stupid.

The left in the U.S. is all about playing mind games with everyone while covertly doing whatever it wants to fulfill their rent seeking for their special interest groups. It works great until it doesn't anymore, which is precisely why Trump is so popular

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Hard to disagree with this. Good points from Rand as usual.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-...-top-ten-things-make-obama-unqualified-office
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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2008 was a product of central planning. The left blamed Wall Street and gave a free pass to government. That is stupid.

The left in the U.S. is all about playing mind games with everyone while covertly doing whatever it wants to fulfill their rent seeking for their special interest groups. It works great until it doesn't anymore, which is precisely why Trump is so popular

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Hard to disagree with this. Good points from Rand as usual.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-...-top-ten-things-make-obama-unqualified-office
People don't have to vote for Obama anymore. So Paul's point is kind of stupid.

Also, the kind of bigotry portrayed by Trump has not been seen since.. Well.. Hitler. And I know the dude is playing games, but that makes it even worse. Sells his soul to become president.. If he has a soul, because Trump is a non-person with no actual ideas and opinions of his own.
 

Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
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People don't have to vote for Obama anymore. So Paul's point is kind of stupid.

Also, the kind of bigotry portrayed by Trump has not been seen since.. Well.. Hitler. And I know the dude is playing games, but that makes it even worse. Sells his soul to become president.. If he has a soul, because Trump is a non-person with no actual ideas and opinions of his own.
I feel like people will say they support Trump but in the end he wont get any votes.
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
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2008 was a product of central planning. The left blamed Wall Street and gave a free pass to government. That is stupid.

The left in the U.S. is all about playing mind games with everyone while covertly doing whatever it wants to fulfill their rent seeking for their special interest groups. It works great until it doesn't anymore, which is precisely why Trump is so popular
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And a lot of leftist thinkers majorly blamed public measures in the past for the financial crisis, but realised that different, and in many cases more government intervention is needed in order not to repeat the events.

Also, the US doesn't really have a left. Don't call the Democrats left.
 

Hængebøffer

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2009
25,185
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And a lot of leftist thinkers majorly blamed public measures in the past for the financial crisis, but realised that different, and in many cases more government intervention is needed in order not to repeat the events.

Also, the US doesn't really have a left. Don't call the Democrats left.
To be honest, everything wrong, today, is down to reforms containing bad liberalism and bad socialism.
 

Hængebøffer

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2009
25,185
People don't have to vote for Obama anymore. So Paul's point is kind of stupid.

Also, the kind of bigotry portrayed by Trump has not been seen since.. Well.. Hitler. And I know the dude is playing games, but that makes it even worse. Sells his soul to become president.. If he has a soul, because Trump is a non-person with no actual ideas and opinions of his own.
Really? Read what Bush said after 9/11:
http://muftah.org/george-w-bush-on-islam/#.VmaCK4QzB9U
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,342
I just saw what The Daily Show did to Ted Cruz :howler:.

I know American media are remorseless, but how on Earth is this guy a serious contender? He looks like evil incarnate.

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I'm not sure I understand your point. I am well aware of that speech made by Bush. It has been referred to a lot the past couple of days. How does that make Trump any less of a bigot?
 

Hængebøffer

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2009
25,185
I just saw what The Daily Show did to Ted Cruz :howler:.

I know American media are remorseless, but how on Earth is this guy a serious contender? He looks like evil incarnate.

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I'm not sure I understand your point. I am well aware of that speech made by Bush. It has been referred to a lot the past couple of days. How does that make Trump any less of a bigot?
It was "since your Hitler" part.
 

Hængebøffer

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2009
25,185
I'm not getting it. How is that speech made by Bush as bigoted as Hitler/Trump?
You suffer from the same symptoms as the cultural elite, who has been dictating almost everything for many years in this subject. Because you're educated enough to wrap your bs in high LIX-numbers, doesen't make you less bigoted. This is exactly one of the reasons, you see the rise in votes on right wing politicians. Nobody took these voters concerns serious.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,342
You suffer from the same symptoms as the cultural elite, who has been dictating almost everything for many years in this subject. Because you're educated enough to wrap your bs in high LIX-numbers, doesen't make you less bigoted. This is exactly one of the reasons, you see the rise in votes on right wing politicians. Nobody took these voters concerns serious.
You sure sound like you make a good point. It's unfortunate that you don't. In fact you don't really say anything.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,342
Reading this forum sometimes seems our members IQ average is over 9000. So much smarts, on every topics.
Haengeboffer is smart, but he's wrong on this point. He seems to have forgotten that we interpet words by the meaning that is generally ascribed to them.

For example: Bush's speech is clearly not bigoted. Bush might be. I might be. But his speech was not.
 

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