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Post Ironic

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He shut down travel from China at the end of January, while saying the virus was not a big deal at all. When judging Trump’s behaviour I could give two shits about what the democrats did. When judging democrats behaviour I could give two shits about what Trump did. The excuses you endlessly use for Trump, “but the democrats”, “but Obama”, “But Biden”... these don’t justify his assclown, disgusting behaviour at all. Just like Trump’s behaviour doesn’t justify the BLM and antifa jackasses. Just a few shitty cops don’t justify rioting and looting and defunding the police in response. Etc. You don’t defend shitty behaviour by pointing out others’ shitty behaviour.
Morally? Of course not but its 1 of 2 choices. If could write a name in I would write Post Ironic above these turds for sure but i can't.

Trump is awful. That he cares about nothing but himself is not the question the question is if he is less dangerous, less insane than the left. Didn't think so but then George Floyd died.
 

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He shut down travel from China at the end of January, while saying the virus was not a big deal at all. When judging Trump’s behaviour I could give two shits about what the democrats did. When judging democrats behaviour I could give two shits about what Trump did. The excuses you endlessly use for Trump, “but the democrats”, “but Obama”, “But Biden”... these don’t justify his assclown, disgusting behaviour at all. Just like Trump’s behaviour doesn’t justify the BLM and antifa jackasses. Just a few shitty cops don’t justify rioting and looting and defunding the police in response. Etc. You don’t defend shitty behaviour by pointing out others’ shitty behaviour.
except he didn’t, he left open Hong Kong and Macau in addition to allowing non Chinese people who had visited the mainland but hadn’t flown direct enter the country, those travelers were supposed be traced upon entering the country but weren’t. tens of thousands of people entered the country from China during the travel ban

I get the keep it quiet part and all that. Would make sense if he wasn’t saying the same thing 1,2,3 or however many months later

give the guy credit for calming North Korea, leading a solid economy and not getting into any wars but do not give the guy credit for the worst covid response of the developed world. 200,000 deserve better than that
 

Bjerknes

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He shut down travel from China at the end of January, while saying the virus was not a big deal at all. When judging Trump’s behaviour I could give two shits about what the democrats did. When judging democrats behaviour I could give two shits about what Trump did. The excuses you endlessly use for Trump, “but the democrats”, “but Obama”, “But Biden”... these don’t justify his assclown, disgusting behaviour at all. Just like Trump’s behaviour doesn’t justify the BLM and antifa jackasses. Just a few shitty cops don’t justify rioting and looting and defunding the police in response. Etc. You don’t defend shitty behaviour by pointing out others’ shitty behaviour.
There are people around my area who have huge banners up counting the number of dead from Covid in the US, updating it every day or two to demonstrate how many people Trump has personally killed. If people seriously blame Trump for killing all of these people, then it's really no use in having any discussion whatsoever.

I'm pondering sending them nasty letters complaining that their numbers are wrong every day I run by.

If you're going to do something like that, at least keep it updated by the hour...
 

Post Ironic

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except he didn’t, he left open Hong Kong and Macau in addition to allowing non Chinese people who had visited the mainland but hadn’t flown direct enter the country, those travelers were supposed be traced upon entering the country but weren’t. tens of thousands of people entered the country from China during the travel ban

I get the keep it quiet part and all that. Would make sense if he wasn’t saying the same thing 1,2,3 or however many months later

give the guy credit for calming North Korea, leading a solid economy and not getting into any wars but do not give the guy credit for the worst covid response of the developed world. 200,000 deserve better than that
:tup:

Exactly this.

And it’s not a reasonable defence of Trump’s shit to say “but Obama”. Criticize Obama for his shit, criticize Trump for his shit. Do not justify the shitty behaviour of one by saying the other did bad things too.
 

Bjerknes

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:tup:

Exactly this.

And it’s not a reasonable defence of Trump’s shit to say “but Obama”. Criticize Obama for his shit, criticize Trump for his shit. Do not justify the shitty behaviour of one by saying the other did bad things too.
:lol:

I brought up Obama because of the Peace Prize shit, not anything else.
 

Post Ironic

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Morally? Of course not but its 1 of 2 choices. If could write a name in I would write Post Ironic above these turds for sure but i can't.

Trump is awful. That he cares about nothing but himself is not the question the question is if he is less dangerous, less insane than the left. Didn't think so but then George Floyd died.
Yeah. I agree with all of this. I have no idea what I would do if I lived down there. Probably wouldn’t vote. I agree with liberal politics of the 90s, etc. But I despise the progressive, identity politics wing of the party so much that I have trouble supporting them any longer. But I just don’t agree with conservative ideology in most other aspects so I don’t believe I could ever be conservative either. As @Zacheryah said above, a viable option in the middle would be a godsend.
 

Post Ironic

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:lol:

I brought up Obama because of the Peace Prize shit, not anything else.
Dude, you bring up Obama or Biden and what they did, almost every time someone criticizes Trump. Give it a rest.

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There are people around my area who have huge banners up counting the number of dead from Covid in the US, updating it every day or two to demonstrate how many people Trump has personally killed. If people seriously blame Trump for killing all of these people, then it's really no use in having any discussion whatsoever.

I'm pondering sending them nasty letters complaining that their numbers are wrong every day I run by.

If you're going to do something like that, at least keep it updated by the hour...
that’s actually hilarious. Who the heck would want to do something so depressing and morbid. Lol
 

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I was ok with the travel ban, but it didn't go nearly far enough. Could've, at the very least made travelers coming from hotspots quarantine, set up temperature checks at the airport (not really a good indicator yes, but even if it stopped one person that could've saved thousands down the line), and the biggest thing being accepting those WHO offered tests. I remember the European ban too, happened after I believe confirmed community spread in California already and after it was clear Italy was going to be hit hard. Western governments in general seem to have acted far too late.
 

Bjerknes

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Dude, you bring up Obama or Biden and what they did, almost every time someone criticizes Trump. Give it a rest.
Maybe, but sounds like a stretch. I don't make claims about Obama's H1N1 response, at least.

that’s actually hilarious. Who the heck would want to do something so depressing and morbid. Lol
A celebration of the dead.
 

Zacheryah

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I was ok with the travel ban, but it didn't go nearly far enough. Could've, at the very least made travelers coming from hotspots quarantine, set up temperature checks at the airport (not really a good indicator yes, but even if it stopped one person that could've saved thousands down the line), and the biggest thing being accepting those WHO offered tests. I remember the European ban too, happened after I believe confirmed community spread in California already and after it was clear Italy was going to be hit hard. Western governments in general seem to have acted far too late.
It feels alot like nobody wanted to be the first to kill their economy.
 

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Yeah. I agree with all of this. I have no idea what I would do if I lived down there. Probably wouldn’t vote. I agree with liberal politics of the 90s, etc. But I despise the progressive, identity politics wing of the party so much that I have trouble supporting them any longer. But I just don’t agree with conservative ideology in most other aspects so I don’t believe I could ever be conservative either. As @Zacheryah said above, a viable option in the middle would be a godsend.
I just look for centrists, no matter the party. if I only voted for liberals I’d never be part of the game, living in Utah
 

Post Ironic

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Maybe, but sounds like a stretch. I don't make claims about Obama's H1N1 response, at least.



A celebration of the dead.
Fair enough. That’s a Trump special. And Fox News for that matter. I’ve noticed it happening a lot as a defence of Trump in this thread. And of course it’s in part due to the constant attacks of everything he does, good or bad, and the relative silence about the other side’s bad behaviour. But that’s a media thing, and not really something that people engage in, in this thread. As I’m pretty certain every liberal leaning person in this thread despises the further left identity politics nonsense.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Dear Residents of 123 Whatever Street,

I am writing you this letter to advise that your Covid Death Tally displayed above your front door has been incorrect for 24 hours. The daily total at the time of me writing this letter is 182,587 deaths, but your banner currently displays 182,012 (I know, because I'm writing this letter in front of your house). In this time of uncertainty and fake news, we must uphold a high level of accuracy in Covid deaths. Therefore, I urge you to update your banner each time you are notified of a death. That way, we can be sure of how many deaths Trump is responsible for at any given minute. Just one more noted death could prevent one more Trump vote at the polls.

Never forget and best regards,

Bjerknes
 

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Fair enough. That’s a Trump special. And Fox News for that matter. I’ve noticed it happening a lot as a defence of Trump in this thread. And of course it’s in part due to the constant attacks of everything he does, good or bad, and the relative silence about the other side’s bad behaviour. But that’s a media thing, and not really something that people engage in, in this thread. As I’m pretty certain every liberal leaning person in this thread despises the further left identity politics nonsense.
or Pelosi, I mean who the fuck likes that cunt?

it’s like “oh so your rebuttal is Pelosi, yeah she’s horrible, what else”?
 

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