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[Zacheryah]

If you become a surgeon in Belgium you have no debt. Except if you take on loans to provide for your housing, food, clothes, etc... But the the actual tuition is around 900 Euros or something.

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If you become a surgeon in Belgium you have no debt. Except if you take on loans to provide for your housing, food, clothes, etc... But the the actual tuition is around 900 Euros or something.

In belgium, when you are unemployed, lack a college/univ degree but recieve unemployment fee, you can go study for a degree of wich there is a shortage off, whilst keeping unemployment fee.
And when you get a 3 year bachelors degree, you can "continue" the education by bridging to a masters.

And if your income is low, you can get a scolarship, wich you offcourse get on that low unemploymeny fee. Means that 600(now900) euro is just 125 euro.



Meanwhile in the Uk and amurika...

 

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[Seven]

Btw, you do realize the "R&D investment excuse" of pharmaceutical companies is bunk, do you? Look at their balance sheets and you'll see they spend at least twice as much on consumer marketing as they do on research.

I have no idea about that.. I do know their investment is insane. My girlfriend works for a big pharmaceutical company (if not the biggest) and she says me that it routinely happens that someone who works there will drop a bottle of something and the bottle turns out to cost 50,000 dollars. And that's actually the price the company paid to the supplier, so it's not that they say it costs so much, they actually paid that amount of money.

 

[Martin]

Let's steer away from silly debates of nonsense and not waste either of our's time here.

Good, you've identified the purpose of a forum.

 

[Seven]

So yes, if an insurance company doesn't pay, you sue them and you win.

Lol. No, you don't. To sue you need to be very sure of your case. You will invest time, effort and a whole lot of money. There is still a chance you might lose, even if you have a good case. And if you win, you probably will still have to pay a substantial part of the fees of your own lawyer. It's easy to sue people if you're an insurance company. The other way around, not so much.

You obviously have no idea how much these things costs..

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

i just read this:

http://www.vice.com/read/talking-to-american-debt-dodgers-who-moved-to-europe-to-avoid-paying-off-their-student-loans-111

as someone wrote in the comments, it feels like a the onion article

the art school guy

it is kinda sad to read and it shouldnt even come to that, but this education system is what it is, so why not think about some things first before you go get a huge credit? like will i be able to pay it back? how long will it take? do i really have to go to college?...or am i just going because
everybody else seems to go? will i find work after finishing school?

...running away is a great idea. mentality will get you far.

This isn't something that can be predicted too accurately.

I started with around $30,000 in debt and make $25,000 a year before taxes (it was the only job loosely related to my field that would hire me, took a year and a half to get and only got it because my friend works there). I devote half of every paycheck to paying off my loans, so I should be able to get it done in 3.5 years or so if all goes well. Fuck that 10-15 year minimum payment bullshit.

 

[Enron]

Moved all the econ debate to another thread.

 

[king Ale]

Moved all the econ debate to another thread.

Will you vote?

 

[Enron]

Will you vote?

Not in the primaries but most likely in the general.

 

[DAiDEViL]

In belgium, when you are unemployed, lack a college/univ degree but recieve unemployment fee, you can go study for a degree of wich there is a shortage off, whilst keeping unemployment fee.
And when you get a 3 year bachelors degree, you can "continue" the education by bridging to a masters.

And if your income is low, you can get a scolarship, wich you offcourse get on that low unemploymeny fee. Means that 600(now900) euro is just 125 euro.

Meanwhile in the Uk and amurika...

sounds good to me , but we are all commies to think so. @Juliano13

 

[Juliano13]

in this case just socialists

 

[JuveJay]

I look at the candidates and I'm glad I don't have to vote. I'd probably go with Sanders, on an ideal level, but I've no idea how this would work in a country like the US.

 

[Seven]

I look at the candidates and I'm glad I don't have to vote. I'd probably go with Sanders, on an ideal level, but I've no idea how this would work in a country like the US.

Sanders v Trump would be an incredible scenario though. Two polar opposites. It would be crazy.

 

[Zacheryah]

Just not that clinton women.


Sanders is about the least insane candidate

 

[GordoDeCentral]

sanders is just as incoherent as trump

 

[Seven]

Just not that clinton women.


Sanders is about the least insane candidate

Clinton looks like the kind of woman who'd stab you in the back to advance politically. I'm sure all candidates have that quality, it's just that I could never bring myself to trust Clinton. She also comes across as very harsh and robotic imo. It's a shame there are so few female politicians, but that shouldn't be an excuse to elect the wrong woman as president.

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sanders is just as incoherent as trump

Yes and no. Sanders has ideas that might work and might be the future. But he's also 74 and doesn't come across as sharp-witted. And like I said before, if he'd get two terms, he'll be 82 by the end of the second. I'm not one to discriminate people based on age, but perhaps it is unfair to place such a burden on a man his age.

 

[Zacheryah]

Oh its not because she's female.

I'm actually sad that again america cannot produce a decent female president candidate.

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sanders is just as incoherent as trump

No, but he is old

 

[Hust]

Palin to endorse Trump.

 

[ALC]

Palin to endorse Trump.

Just as he was starting to grow on me

 

[Enron]

Palin to endorse Trump.

Think Donald will let her pick the color of the knee pads?

 

[Maddy]

Palin to take the religious lunatics. Trump to take the rest of the lunatics. Win/win.

Dude's gonna win in Iowa

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