'Murica! (141 Viewers)

[GordoDeCentral]

The old man had something in his hand and he wasn't even reaching to the right. Come on man!

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Am not ignoring anything. Anyone who breaks the law needs to be dealt with.

Well that man was breaking the law by attempting to touch the officer, moreover the officer was justified in pushing him as his the mans hand was getting close to his weapon.

 

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[Wings]

Well that man was breaking the law by attempting to touch the officer, moreover the officer was justified in pushing him as his the mans hand was getting close to his weapon.

If he broke the law he should have been forewarned and arrested. Not shoved brutally. Apply enough force for the situation.

 

[Hust]

Oh a baseball field, 30, 40, 50 feet apart they can't throw a baseball because of social distancing and these fat fucks call the police on them.

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LOL

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Racist for removing BLM graffiti from a building.

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lol the sound it makes

 

[duranfj]

i dont think they are actually thinking that far ahead lol.

Having said that I wonder how much of this is because it is an election year combined with millions of students out of school/ work due to quarantine and the opportunity for public figures/ major companies to cash in on wokeness.


My question is do you guys think this will bring about significant societal change (either positive ie significant criminal justice reform or negative signifcant economic damage breakdown of a cohesive society) or be largely over with and forgotten come 2021?

My opinion, NO. The problem has so many sources: values, cultural, educational, structural, urbanism, religious, media, economical, political.

For instance, in America a black can do any kind of racist joke about any other race just because they went through so many shits, that's racist. A member of the LGBTQ community can say whatever about religious people (rapist, fanatic, crazy, make fun of symbols) because they don't accept them, that's racist.

Those are just a couple of things in many other that have to change before the society start to see changes.

 

[Ronn]

i dont think they are actually thinking that far ahead lol.

Having said that I wonder how much of this is because it is an election year combined with millions of students out of school/ work due to quarantine and the opportunity for public figures/ major companies to cash in on wokeness.


My question is do you guys think this will bring about significant societal change (either positive ie significant criminal justice reform or negative signifcant economic damage breakdown of a cohesive society) or be largely over with and forgotten come 2021?

I don’t think a leaderless movement brings any meaningful change ever. the proposals put forward are ridiculous. Defunding the police is just lol.
and massive economic inequality still looms large.

 

[Hust]

lol are those paintballs but filled with smoke/tear gas?

 

[Ronn]

When Police has a us vs them mentality then everything is fucked up

 

[Osman]

lol are those paintballs but filled with smoke/tear gas?

That clip is like the definition of the police state. No fear or qualms about doing whatever fvck they want.


They look more like a gang protecting their zip code territory then anyone there to protect anyone.

 

[Hust]

That clip is like the definition of the police state. No fear or qualms about doing whatever fvck they want.


They look more like a gang protecting their zip code territory then anyone there to protect anyone.

What I don't understand is, not one of the realizes the person STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO THEM is recording? Like, don't they realize there are probably a hundred people around them doing the same thing, recording?

 

[Enron]

Well that man was breaking the law by attempting to touch the officer, moreover the officer was justified in pushing him as his the mans hand was getting close to his weapon.

bpd lied about the altercation, they gave no justification until they realized there was a video then they suspended two officers pending investigation

 

[Ronn]

What I don't understand is, not one of the realizes the person STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO THEM is recording? Like, don't they realize there are probably a hundred people around them doing the same thing, recording?

The only explanation is: they don’t care. it seems like they are in a fight for themselves.

 

[Hust]

The only explanation is: they don’t care. it seems like they are in a fight for themselves.

Was literally thinking about the post and was coming back to say they simply must not care lol

 

[GordoDeCentral]

bpd lied about the altercation, they gave no justification until they realized there was a video then they suspended two officers pending investigation

The court of public opinion must be appeased.

 

[Enron]

The court of public opinion must be appeased.

maybe

 

[Ronn]

Lol remember conservatives were dismissing job numbers as fake in Obama admin? Now Paul Krugman is dismissing today’s numbers.

 

[Hust]

how about those job numbers?

 

[swag]

Racist for removing BLM graffiti from a building.

If I drop trou and leave a skid mark of dookie on the sidewalk that says "BLM" (BoweLMovement, my social movement group), nobody should be able to spray it off without first checking their privilege.

My question is do you guys think this will bring about significant societal change (either positive ie significant criminal justice reform or negative signifcant economic damage breakdown of a cohesive society) or be largely over with and forgotten come 2021?

No, because we've still shown no social capacity to handle complex challenges with systems-level fixes. Without falling into convenient polarizations instead of coexisting with the inherent contradictions and paradoxes.

I don’t think a leaderless movement brings any meaningful change ever. the proposals put forward are ridiculous. Defunding the police is just lol.
and massive economic inequality still looms large.

Leaderless movements are the future. Mark my words. Leadership has been oversold and represents centralized power, which is the antithesis of these situations unless you're China's Xi.

Defunding the police also buries the problem. The problem isn't too many bored cops. The problem is murderous and easily triggered cops. Defunding doesn't address that.

 

[Bjerknes]

how about those job numbers?

I don't believe them for a second, but chances are the unemployment numbers will improve over time unless we have a second shutdown. Need to see if there are any lingering impacts outside of the service sector as the shutdown filters through the system. We'll just kick the can when it comes to the other structural problems in the economy.

But you have to hand it to the Trump administration. Employment trends improving, service sector employees working again, stock market surging, airline and service-related stocks much higher, small investors making a killing on the rebound, oil higher but not too high keeping US rigs online, riots slowing down, Covid out of the news, et cetera. Only up from here, so enjoy the summer. Incredibly bad news all around for bears and Democrats alike.

 

[Ronn]

Leaderless movements are the future. Mark my words. Leadership has been oversold and represents centralized power, which is the antithesis of these situations unless you're China's Xi.

I don’t deny that leaderless movements are the future. In the world of social media digging dirt on someone has become so easy and common that nobody can remain clean enough to lead a social movement. But this is also a recipe for ineffectiveness of those movements. There are too many voices and no coherence in such movements. What makes it even worse is that the most ridiculous ideas get the most attention from the opposition to discredit the entire movement. Without a coherent voice nothing will be done.

 

[X Æ A-12]

What I don't understand is, not one of the realizes the person STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO THEM is recording? Like, don't they realize there are probably a hundred people around them doing the same thing, recording?

police uniolns have a lot of power in cities. i wonder if their intention is to just ride the situation out