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Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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Let's say he snaps, and tries, the military brass that needs to turn the other key won't do it. Unless we are actively getting fired on with nukes there is pretty much no way it would happen.

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LuL I wouldn't be surprised if they gave him a dummy football anyway...
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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Let's say he snaps, and tries, the military brass that needs to turn the other key won't do it. Unless we are actively getting fired on with nukes there is pretty much no way it would happen.

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LuL I wouldn't be surprised if they gave him a dummy football anyway...

The president has unilateral authority as commander-in-chief to order that nuclear weapons be used for any reason at any time

He doesn't need the football at the white house
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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The president has unilateral authority as commander-in-chief to order that nuclear weapons be used for any reason at any time

He doesn't need the football at the white house
It's a dual factor system.

The President by himself cannot press a button and cause missiles to fly. He can only give an authenticated order which others would follow and then missiles would fly," Dr. Peter Feaver, a professor of public policy and political science at Duke University, told congressional lawmakers last year.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/03/politics/trump-nuclear-football-explainer/index.html

Those on the receiving end of the order can simply refuse to carry out the order.
 

AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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It's a dual factor system.

The President by himself cannot press a button and cause missiles to fly. He can only give an authenticated order which others would follow and then missiles would fly," Dr. Peter Feaver, a professor of public policy and political science at Duke University, told congressional lawmakers last year.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/03/politics/trump-nuclear-football-explainer/index.html

Those on the receiving end of the order can simply refuse to carry out the order.
We would hope, at least.
 

Ronn

#TeamPestoFlies
May 3, 2012
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It's a dual factor system.

The President by himself cannot press a button and cause missiles to fly. He can only give an authenticated order which others would follow and then missiles would fly," Dr. Peter Feaver, a professor of public policy and political science at Duke University, told congressional lawmakers last year.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/03/politics/trump-nuclear-football-explainer/index.html

Those on the receiving end of the order can simply refuse to carry out the order.
And court-martialled and spend rest of their lives in prison
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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Ronn

#TeamPestoFlies
May 3, 2012
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less of a gamble then firing nukes at the ayatollah because someone made fun of trump's wig
I wasn't really referring to the Stable Genius and Ayatollahs. Let's say, hypothetically, that a US president orders military to fire a nuclear missile to the heart of a desert which is believed to be a gathering of thousands of ISIS supporters. Would the guy who is supposed to execute the order overrule the president?
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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I wasn't really referring to the Stable Genius and Ayatollahs. Let's say, hypothetically, that a US president orders military to fire a nuclear missile to the heart of a desert which is believed to be a gathering of thousands of ISIS supporters. Would the guy who is supposed to execute the order overrule the president?
Can’t overrule as in with higher authority, but not following the order is punishable under UCMJ since the authentication process is handled by the military accompanying POTUS and the pentagon...

Think it’s Article 92 in USMJ and probably a few others :grin:
 

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