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Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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There are no viable studies linking autism to vaccinations.
As far as I know, not at this time. But I think there needs to be more research on this topic, especially the ramifications of giving children an increased amount of vaccines within a short period of time.

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Obama may not be a Muslim, but he might as well be a member of ISIS. He'd have much more in common and could probably generate more friendships. Always something to consider.
 

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Tickle Me
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Oct 11, 2005
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As far as I know, not at this time. But I think there needs to be more research on this topic, especially the ramifications of giving children an increased amount of vaccines within a short period of time.

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Obama may not be a Muslim, but he might as well be a member of ISIS. He'd have much more in common and could probably generate more friendships. Always something to consider.
I guess. Religion isn't something we should consider, since you know our government is secular and what not.
 

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Oh, I know. But Obama surely likes to divide us in this fashion, including by race. That's why he should go work for ISIS.
We only allow ourselves to be divided. If the words of the president move you to choose a side in the race debate then you were most likely already there.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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We only allow ourselves to be divided. If the words of the president move you to choose a side in the race debate then you were most likely already there.
Not choosing sides, just calling it like it is. How does one explain the overall degeneration in race relations here? Not to mention that the focus isn't even directed towards those who create the continuous plight.
 

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Not choosing sides, just calling it like it is. How does one explain the overall degeneration in race relations here? Not to mention that the focus isn't even directed towards those who create the continuous plight.
Has there been a degeneration in race relations?
 

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Sep 23, 2003
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We only allow ourselves to be divided. If the words of the president move you to choose a side in the race debate then you were most likely already there.
I kinda have to side with this. People today are so caught up in defining their own identities in the negative -- i.e., of the things and ideas and people and food and beliefs that they are not or against. Much more than the inclusive alternative of things they constructive associate with.

It's become shameful to have some common ground with your neighbor these days.
 

ALC

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Oct 28, 2010
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I sort of disagree here. One has to wonder why autism rates are increasing over time. There are not many studies available on vaccine frequency and chemical changes within the body, plus there are known side effects from some that are included in the paperwork from the manufacturer. I think Rand alluded to this when he spoke about it.

In all, despite living in the 21st century, cases of autism and other diseases/cancers are increasing in volume, and we should have a discussion as to why instead of letting big pharma offer the solution.
Autism can be attributed to different standards. Back in the day, one could very well be autistic and not be diagnosed where nowadays it takes much less to diagnose someone with autism.

Same with cancer, that's always been a big thing. Now we just catch it earlier and treat it, but it doesn't necessarily mean people are getting cancer more often.
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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I sort of disagree here. One has to wonder why autism rates are increasing over time. There are not many studies available on vaccine frequency and chemical changes within the body, plus there are known side effects from some that are included in the paperwork from the manufacturer. I think Rand alluded to this when he spoke about it.

In all, despite living in the 21st century, cases of autism and other diseases/cancers are increasing in volume, and we should have a discussion as to why instead of letting big pharma offer the solution.
Volume, but not frequency, all things considered. But autism is getting diagnosed much easier, and people are getting older -> more occurences of cancer.

Obama may not be a Muslim, but he might as well be a member of ISIS. He'd have much more in common and could probably generate more friendships. Always something to consider.
What. The. Fuck.

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And because you've got no reason to believe me, an article on the matter with a couple of credible studies as sources: http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/cancer-prevalent-usa-another-myth-debunked/
 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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I sort of disagree here. One has to wonder why autism rates are increasing over time. There are not many studies available on vaccine frequency and chemical changes within the body, plus there are known side effects from some that are included in the paperwork from the manufacturer. I think Rand alluded to this when he spoke about it.

In all, despite living in the 21st century, cases of autism and other diseases/cancers are increasing in volume, and we should have a discussion as to why instead of letting big pharma offer the solution.
It's not just autism. It's auto-immune disorders, obesity, etc. Fucking peanut allergies have swallowed up school systems.

So why are people quick to blame immunizations for all of that while there are people denying humans have anything to do with the climate? It all comes down to an emotional and illogical reaction. A lot of people don't like shots. And a lot of people have hyper-Big-Brother freak outs about mandating them, even if for the right reasons.

Sure, we do have a history of Tuskegee experiments. But people aren't objecting to immunizations because of the science and the data. They are just seeking anecdotal confirmations and confirmation bias to justify their emotional responses.

As far as I know, not at this time. But I think there needs to be more research on this topic, especially the ramifications of giving children an increased amount of vaccines within a short period of time.
Immunization rates have actually gone down while autism has gone up. So even at an epidemiological level, that makes no sense. You'd be better off blaming GMOs in the food supply for that than immunizations.
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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Autism can be attributed to different standards. Back in the day, one could very well be autistic and not be diagnosed where nowadays it takes much less to diagnose someone with autism.

Same with cancer, that's always been a big thing. Now we just catch it earlier and treat it, but it doesn't necessarily mean people are getting cancer more often.
I blame it on mutagen
 

.zero

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I just want to thank each and everyone of of the candidates for what they've done to their bodies. It's still real to me dammit!

 

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