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Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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It might be disastrous for some people (such as illegals and leftists), but it might not be too bad for people in business or people trying to be in business. From the way it seems, Trump has at least been relatively steady on many policies dating back to the 1980's, some of which will be good for the economy. I don't particularly like his take on interest rates before 2008 though, which could be the same now. There is some good stuff in here.

 

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
38,295
It might be disastrous for some people (such as illegals and leftists), but it might not be too bad for people in business or people trying to be in business. From the way it seems, Trump has at least been relatively steady on many policies dating back to the 1980's, some of which will be good for the economy. I don't particularly like his take on interest rates before 2008 though, which could be the same now. There is some good stuff in here.


No. That's simply not true. He has changed his mind on lots of things. That's not necessarily bad, it's human. But what you're saying is just not correct.

Imo there's no real way of knowing how bad Trump is going to be. He'll make the USA look ridiculous in the eyes of the rest of the world, so that's a bit of a downer. But everything he has said so far has just been for show.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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I don't know, both are pretty horrible.

It's disconcerting that Hillary Clinton is the best the American oligarchy can offer. They probably chose her because of her innumerable scandals and corruptions, which will make her completely subservient to their interests, as she has been her whole career.

Trump is more unpredictable.
Well, Hillary is a criminal. She should be in jail, just like many of her handlers.

How fitting is it that the dumb masses elect a criminal who has ties out and into her ass from Wall Street, the people the dumb masses hate?

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No. That's simply not true. He has changed his mind on lots of things. That's not necessarily bad, it's human. But what you're saying is just not correct.

Imo there's no real way of knowing how bad Trump is going to be. He'll make the USA look ridiculous in the eyes of the rest of the world, so that's a bit of a downer. But everything he has said so far has just been for show.
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Well, Hillary is a criminal. She should be in jail, just like many of her handlers.

How fitting is it that the dumb masses elect a criminal who has ties out in and into her ass from Wall Street, the people the dumb masses hate?
The worst is Elizabeth Warren, the so-called "progressive" who has been complaining about Wall Street and money in politics for years...

Then she endorses the living embodiment of Wallt Street corruption, Clinton, and grovels to become her VP pick :lol:

Pathetic. Politicians :sergio:
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
111,734
The worst is Elizabeth Warren, the so-called "progressive" who has been complaining about Wall Street and money in politics for years...

Then she endorses the living embodiment of Wallt Street corruption, Clinton, and grovels to become her VP pick :lol:

Pathetic. Politicians :sergio:
Not surprising, she has always been a complete fraud.
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
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First of all, Trump is everything but consistent. He contradicts himself, sometimes even word for word, all the time.

Second of all, his plans will be especially desastrous for the economy, he has no idea how world trade works for example. Everyone in the US basing their business on export will have a really hard time if Trump manages to get some of his proposals through.

The question of how bad he's gonna be would be primarily decided by how much of his ideas he's going to be able to bring into reality.
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
29,799
First of all, Trump is everything but consistent. He contradicts himself, sometimes even word for word, all the time.

Second of all, his plans will be especially desastrous for the economy, he has no idea how world trade works for example. Everyone in the US basing their business on export will have a really hard time if Trump manages to get some of his proposals through.

The question of how bad he's gonna be would be primarily decided by how much of his ideas he's going to be able to bring into reality.
:agree:

Listening to him during the debates was borderline physically painful.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
111,734
First of all, Trump is everything but consistent. He contradicts himself, sometimes even word for word, all the time.

Second of all, his plans will be especially desastrous for the economy, he has no idea how world trade works for example. Everyone in the US basing their business on export will have a really hard time if Trump manages to get some of his proposals through.

The question of how bad he's gonna be would be primarily decided by how much of his ideas he's going to be able to bring into reality.
What do we produce here and export elsewhere?
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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What kind of question is that? There's bound to be something. Every country in the world exports stuff.
Sure, but we don't produce a whole lot anymore. The vast majority of exports stem from machinery and electronics. We've lost a lot of productive capacity and are now mostly a service economy.
 

GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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Seriously how can anyone get past trump, leader of the free world to even make it to his policies, which incidentally either don't exist yet(he will assemble the best and the brightest bla bla) or are just a bunch of catch phrases and slogans. 90% of his staff is all PR, dude didn't even have an economic adviser in the primaries.
 

AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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Seriously how can anyone get past trump, leader of the free world to even make it to his policies, which incidentally either don't exist yet(he will assemble the best and the brightest bla bla) or are just a bunch of catch phrases and slogans. 90% of his staff is all PR, dude didn't even have an economic adviser in the primaries.
That doesn't matter to them because "he's a business man," or something.

And as for our exports: http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/usa/
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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That doesn't matter to them because "he's a business man," or something.

And as for our exports: http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/usa/
Exports account for 8.4% of our GDP. Basically a drop in the bucket.

http://www.worldstopexports.com/united-states-top-10-exports/

And since the majority of these items are only produced here (especially highly sophisticated military-related products and pharmaceuticals), I'm not sure what people are referring to. From the sounds of it, Trump wants to inspire the growth of productive capacity in the US again for certain goods to be sold in the US.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Exports account for 8.4% of our GDP. Basically a drop in the bucket.

http://www.worldstopexports.com/united-states-top-10-exports/

And since the majority of these items are only produced here (especially highly sophisticated military-related products and pharmaceuticals), I'm not sure what people are referring to. From the sounds of it, Trump wants to inspire the growth of productive capacity in the US again for certain goods to be sold in the US.

I can't believe you are falling for this sucker :lol:
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
29,799
Exports account for 8.4% of our GDP. Basically a drop in the bucket.

http://www.worldstopexports.com/united-states-top-10-exports/

And since the majority of these items are only produced here (especially highly sophisticated military-related products and pharmaceuticals), I'm not sure what people are referring to. From the sounds of it, Trump wants to inspire the growth of productive capacity in the US again for certain goods to be sold in the US.
I was just posting it for discussion purposes :p
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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Seriously how can anyone get past trump, leader of the free world to even make it to his policies, which incidentally either don't exist yet(he will assemble the best and the brightest bla bla) or are just a bunch of catch phrases and slogans. 90% of his staff is all PR, dude didn't even have an economic adviser in the primaries.
This
Plus the racist rhetoric that he and his supporters spew, such as this.
 

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