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[Ronn]

[MENTION]X[/MENTION] The Republican establishment bombed two countries that had nothing to do with 9/11 and killed millions of people. What could Trump possibly do that is worse than that? What proof does anybody have? I'm not even a fan of him, but clearly he's a better option than that.

Honest question, Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11? Wasn't AlQaeda operating from there?

 

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[Quetzalcoatl]

Oh i don't know. How about he makes another dick joke but this time kim jung un is the recipient. He's by far the worst option, bernie closer second.

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Anything and everything to get to the white house

Damn, you prefer Hillary?

 

[Bjerknes]

Oh i don't know. How about he makes another $#@! joke but this time kim jung un is the recipient. He's by far the worst option, bernie closer second.

Seriously? You're afraid of Kim Jung Un, the guy they portrayed in The Interview?

Honest question, Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11? Wasn't AlQaeda operating from there?

The vast majority of the supposed terrorists were Saudi and the missing pages of the 9/11 report point to Saudi funding, not Afghani.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Damn, you prefer Hillary?

i don't vote, but the best option UNFORTUNATELY is hillary, you know the whole who would you rather have a beer with

 

[Ronn]

Seriously? You're afraid of Kim Jung Un, the guy they portrayed in The Interview?



The vast majority of the supposed terrorists were Saudi and the missing pages of the 9/11 report point to Saudi funding, not Afghani.

I know about their nationalities but AlQaeda was operating freely from Afghanistan. Their leader was there. Saudi Wahabis might be the head of the snake, but saying that Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11 is a bit over the top

 

[.zero]

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[GordoDeCentral]

Seriously? You're afraid of Kim Jung Un, the guy they portrayed in The Interview?



The vast majority of the supposed terrorists were Saudi and the missing pages of the 9/11 report point to Saudi funding, not Afghani.

I was making the point that as powerful as America is it cannot alienate the world, and that America needs the world a whole lot more than the world needs it. A loud ignorant megalomaniac with no sense of tact will do a lot of harm on that front, I'm not even talking about his aptitude for the job, knowledge of how things work, or ability to get people to work together across bipartisan channels, the dude will be a total disaster

 

[Bjerknes]

I know about their nationalities but AlQaeda was operating freely from Afghanistan. Their leader was there. Saudi Wahabis might be the head of the snake, but saying that Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11 is a bit over the top

So you support Bush and Cheney in Afghanistan?

 

[Ronn]

So you support Bush and Cheney in Afghanistan?

Hell no

 

[Bjerknes]

I was making the point that as powerful as America is it cannot alienate the world, and that America needs the world a whole lot more than the world needs it.

And how, exactly? We import a ton of goods from places like China, so in many ways we are dependent upon each other. We acquire a lot of natural resources from around the world, but much of the time we are in good standing with fucks like Saudi Arabia anyway, providing arms and other aid, and that probably won't change under Trump. And hell, even if Trump alienates the Chinese and they sell the bonds, the Fed will just buy them anyway like they do now, so what's the difference?

Moreover, do you think Trump's anti-immigration stance is the same as a militaristic posture to other nations? I find the Iran and Israel rhetoric much worse. From what I can tell, Trump doesn't seem to be preaching endless war either.

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Hell no

Sounds like you do. That was their justification after all.

 

[Post Ironic]

I don't vote, but the best option UNFORTUNATELY is hillary, you know the whole who would you rather have a beer with

This. People are so estranged from and alienated by the establishment to the point that a complete moron like Donald Trump is an appealing option to a large percentage of the voting public.

Rather than vote for an insane person or for the sociopathic Clinton, abstain from voting at all and help illustrate just how broken this 2-party system is.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

And how, exactly? We import a ton of goods from places like China, so in many ways we are dependent upon each other. We acquire a lot of natural resources from around the world, but much of the time we are in good standing with fucks like Saudi Arabia anyway, providing arms and other aid, and that probably won't change under Trump. And hell, even if Trump alienates the Chinese and they sell the bonds, the Fed will just buy them anyway like they do now, so what's the difference?

Moreover, do you think Trump's anti-immigration stance is the same as a militaristic posture to other nations? I find the Iran and Israel rhetoric much worse. From what I can tell, Trump doesn't seem to be preaching endless war either.

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Sounds like you do. That was their justification after all.

What does the US export? Iphones & Facebook? China can easily find other markets and simply adjust their products to fit the new needs. Now what i find take strange is how you support trump for the very same things you hate obama for, both all about rhetoric and both with absolutely no relevant experience to speak of, at least Obama you can take to your family Christmas dinner.

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This. People are so estranged from and alienated by the establishment to the point that a complete moron like Donald Trump is an appealing option to a large percentage of the voting public.

Rather than vote for an insane person or for the sociopathic Clinton, abstain from voting at all and help illustrate just how broken this 2-party system is.

The whole federal government bit is broken, fucked beyond repair

 

[da_ledgeaun]

U.S America is gonna have Trump as president for the next 4 years now?
man, what a joke. I hope the sane ones still turn up more than the insane ones during the final election.

Bernie FTW!

 

[Post Ironic]

What does the US export? Iphones & Facebook? China can easily find other markets and simply adjust their products to fit the new needs. Now what i find take strange is how you support trump for the very same things you hate obama for, both all about rhetoric and both with absolutely no relevant experience to speak of, at least Obama you can take to your family Christmas dinner.

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The whole federal government bit is broken, fucked beyond repair

Depends on the family, right...

 

[KB824]

8 years


And this is the BEST we can do.


The best we can do. My eyes are fogging up

 

[Bjerknes]

What does the US export? Iphones & Facebook? China can easily find other markets and simply adjust their products to fit the new needs. Now what i find take strange is how you support trump for the very same things you hate obama for, both all about rhetoric and both with absolutely no relevant experience to speak of, at least Obama you can take to your family Christmas dinner.

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The whole federal government bit is broken, $#@!ed beyond repair

I doubt it is that easy for China. We are one of the few who will buy the cheap crap. I'm not a Trump supporter by any means ( not sure how many times I need to say this), but I do like his proposed tax plan and comments regarding the fed/WS. I think you may be right about the rhetoric though, which is why I don't think it would be as bad as you say in terms of alienating the world.

 

[KB824]

Hearing some rumors that Hillary will pick Bernie as the running mate, which means the Republicans would probably stand no chance. Not sure how that would work, but I'm sure a lot of Bernie fans would cave to that.

The Republicans stood no chance to begin with. Unlike the Democratic party, who is throwing their support behind the candidate they like the most, the majority of the republican establishment are cautiously throwing their support behind who they hate the least. If your reasoning for supporting one over the other in the same party is "Well, he's the lesser of 2 evils" You're automatically fucked.

And Trump does no fucking favors with that stupid shit he pulled today about Cruz's dad. He talks about uniting the party and then does this. Wow.

 

[Ronn]

Sounds like you do. That was their justification after all.

Nice logic you have

 

[swag]

I think I'm an Abeltarian.

I think this means I can't vote this year...

 

[Seven]

A vote for Trump is a hypothetical vote against the establishment. And for some, a lesser of two evils. Depending upon what happens in the coming months, I may have to vote for the lesser of two evils since I would not be able to stomach a Hillary Presidency. I just can't do it.

Being insane is also anti Establishment but it is not something to aspire to, as bad as establishment is chaos is much MUCH worse

Andy, not only is X completely right, but you also have to ask yourself how much Trump really is anti establishment. He started out as the son of one of New York city's biggest real estate developers. You don't think that if you're a real estate developer in a city such as New York you have ties with the establishment? Of course you do. If you don't, you're out of a job.

Essentially a vote for Trump is a vote for some rich guy who has managed to somehow turn his insanity into a strength rather than a weakness. And maybe that stuff works in some parts of America. Maybe that's enough to convince the average joe. But what's going to happen when Trump needs to talk to Merkel, Cameron or Hollande? You think they will take Trump seriously? No, they will seek to bypass him in every way possible.