'Murica! (357 Viewers)

[AFL_ITALIA]

You know what? He does strike me as trustworthy bloke.

Have you considered running as a Republican? Sounds like you may have a chance.

 

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[Seven]

Have you considered running as a Republican? Sounds like you may have a chance.

To be honest it's pretty easy to win the US presidential elections. You just make a bunch of promises.

It doesn't really matter if you keep them or if you even intend to keep them. Even better, no one asks if you've got an actual plan as to how you'd want to keep them. The important thing is making them.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

To be honest it's pretty easy to win the US presidential elections. You just make a bunch of promises.

It doesn't really matter if you keep them or if you even intend to keep them. Even better, no one asks if you've got an actual plan as to how you'd want to keep them. The important thing is making them.

But don't forget, it's also important to make people angry now

 

[Seven]

But don't forget, it's also important to make people angry now

Easy as well: "The Democrats want to jail me, because I want to make your life better.".

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Easy as well: "The Democrats want to jail me, because I want to make your life better.".

Don't know if you were paraphrasing, but you were halfway there
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...iery-post-indictment-speech-georgia-rcna88561

Gotta throw the fear in too of course, a beloved staple in American politics.

 

[Seven]

Don't know if you were paraphrasing, but you were halfway there
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...iery-post-indictment-speech-georgia-rcna88561

Gotta throw the fear in too of course, a beloved staple in American politics.

At this point it's just kind of stupid.

He's repeating the same basic things over and over and over again. That it works isn't so much a failure of the American democracy as it is a condemnation of the educational system.

 

[U Picciriddu]

look, an idiot:

"To that end, I will accept Russian control of the occupied territories and pledge to block Ukraine’s candidacy for NATO in exchange for Russia exiting its military alliance with China"

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/a-viable-realism-and-revival-doctrine/

is there a chance that republicans come up with a decent candidate, or all of them are lost causes for different reasons?

I’m for a diplomatic solution aswel though, I don’t see any point in continuing this war for many years. I don’t think that the average European of American gives 2 cents about the Donbas region or Crimea.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I do. Not joking. I want the Russians pushed back and I want their economy ruined. I want another Russian Revolution.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

I do. Not joking. I want the Russians pushed back and I want their economy ruined. I want another Russian Revolution.

Only if Ukraine wants this though, their casualties are estimated to be rather high unfortunately.

 

[Kopanja]

I’m for a diplomatic solution aswel though, I don’t see any point in continuing this war for many years. I don’t think that the average European of American gives 2 cents about the Donbas region or Crimea.

 

[U Picciriddu]

Only if Ukraine wants this though, their casualties are estimated to be rather high unfortunately.

Zelensky’s words are continuing until they have all the Russian controlled territories. Although I didn’t disagree with that, if that’s an operation not reachable within x amount of time than honestly a diplomatic solution probably is the best option. The time frame is biased of course, but I’d rather avoid a 5 to 10 year war if it’s about those pieces of territory.

I do. Not joking. I want the Russians pushed back and I want their economy ruined. I want another Russian Revolution.

Didn’t we already expect that effect when the sanctions were imposed?

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

It's only getting worse, my man.

 

[Seven]

Zelensky’s words are continuing until they have all the Russian controlled territories. Although I didn’t disagree with that, if that’s an operation not reachable within x amount of time than honestly a diplomatic solution probably is the best option. The time frame is biased of course, but I’d rather avoid a 5 to 10 year war if it’s about those pieces of territory.

I want whatever solution causes the least amount of human suffering.

But don't you think a diplomatic solution that consists of Ukraine conceding territory to Russia would just make Putin come back for more? It's exactly what happened before.

 

[Kopanja]

It's only getting worse, my man.

It's bad, but not bad bad. Unless our partners strongarm us into "peace talks" – e.g. let Russia restart this war in more favorable conditions in 3-5 years, we will be fine.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I agree with you, I was saying the Russian Economy is weakening.

 

[Kopanja]

I agree with you, I was saying the Russian Economy is weakening.

ah, my bad

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

No worries.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Zelensky’s words are continuing until they have all the Russian controlled territories. Although I didn’t disagree with that, if that’s an operation not reachable within x amount of time than honestly a diplomatic solution probably is the best option. The time frame is biased of course, but I’d rather avoid a 5 to 10 year war if it’s about those pieces of territory.

That's fine by me, I hope they retake Crimea too. But at the end of the day, it's just not our country nor our people out there. I just want to see my government continue to provide all support possible until Ukraine says stop, so forza Biden and not some limp-dick bitch appeasement bullshit.

 

[U Picciriddu]

I want whatever solution causes the least amount of human suffering.

But don't you think a diplomatic solution that consists of Ukraine conceding territory to Russia would just make Putin come back for more? It's exactly what happened before.

Beautifully described in your first sentence.

For the second part, that’s slippery surface indeed. I guess that the only way avoiding that is continuing the build up of our armies (both European and Ukrainian) if a diplomatic solution has been found. If anything an agreement shouldn’t fully be fully trusted as history has learned us.

I think that the context matters here. If we’re going to a Ukrainian victory within (let’s say) the next year then okay, go ahead. If we’re looking to a long war, almost a Iraq or Afghanistan situation, than I’d rather avoid it.

 

[ALC]

Zelensky’s words are continuing until they have all the Russian controlled territories. Although I didn’t disagree with that, if that’s an operation not reachable within x amount of time than honestly a diplomatic solution probably is the best option. The time frame is biased of course, but I’d rather avoid a 5 to 10 year war if it’s about those pieces of territory.



Didn’t we already expect that effect when the sanctions were imposed?

then Ukraine would be negotiating with a terrorist and that’s the worst thing they can do. Keep at it is their best option.