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JuveE46

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Dec 6, 2015
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Oh, I agree that something has to be figured out there at some point. Dealing with Iran is something that unfortunately doesn’t offer an easy solution. As seen by both Obama’s and Trump’s Iran strategies pretty much failing to do anything at all.

I was just pointing out that he wasn’t particularly outraged about the massive bombing campaigns that went on the past 4 years. A wee bit of hypocrisy. ;)
Yeah well when US and UK got the shah of iran to leave in 79 (educated in Austria, buddies with the Us and UK) and installed a bunch of illeterate terrorists to the government so they can take the oil for free (also because the shah installed OPEC and wasn't going to give the barrels away for a fraction of it's worth ANYMORE) and other natural mills, as Iran is super rich, they didn't count on or see as far ahead that muslim extremism would become a thorn in thier shoe and now don't know how to control them.. US and UK fucked so many millions of Iranian people's lives to this day for thier own gains, who suffer under those bloodthirsty oppressors and who can't do anything to change it, now they pretend they want to help Iranian people from those Same oppressors they brought for thier own gains.. The shit with afghanistan when they created bin laden and supported him against the russians, now you will blame who for the towers? Oh that's right that was used as excuse for another war...freedom isnt free they tell the masses and meanwhile keep people thinking they are under threat so they will support thier wars..Democrat and republican is just generic words to amuse the masses, no such thing as the left wants wars more or the right, this argument at it's core is just childish banter.
 
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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Just paid $800 for 200 gallons of propane. Temperatures across the country way above normal. Absolutely insane.

Biden is really going to fuck this country hard when it comes to energy.
 

pavluska

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Apr 25, 2013
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Guys how come some peoples monthly bills got crazy? like that old guy having to pay 12k for electric bill?
Can energy providers change rates as they want during times of crisis?
Oh the innocence of Euro socialists

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Yeah well when US and UK got the shah of iran to leave in 79 (educated in Austria, buddies with the Us and UK) and installed a bunch of illeterate terrorists to the government so they can take the oil for free (also because the shah installed OPEC and wasn't going to give the barrels away for a fraction of it's worth ANYMORE) and other natural mills, as Iran is super rich, they didn't count on or see as far ahead that muslim extremism would become a thorn in thier shoe and now don't know how to control them.. US and UK fucked so many millions of Iranian people's lives to this day for thier own gains, who suffer under those bloodthirsty oppressors and who can't do anything to change it, now they pretend they want to help Iranian people from those Same oppressors they brought for thier own gains.. The shit with afghanistan when they created bin laden and supported him against the russians, now you will blame who for the towers? Oh that's right that was used as excuse for another war...freedom isnt free they tell the masses and meanwhile keep people thinking they are under threat so they will support thier wars..Democrat and republican is just generic words to amuse the masses, no such thing as the left wants wars more or the right, this argument at it's core is just childish banter.
Well said, but in this case it's tit for tat, don't see much wrong with it...unless it also takes out innocent civilians
 
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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Well, 50% of homes in the US use natural gas for heat. Biden is already shutting off domestic production by ending leasing on .gov land, plus he wants us to be completely off natural gas within 15 years. All that means is we'll be importing everything again and prices will go through the roof, even without the inflationary effect of all this stimulus. Crude oil is already close to 70 and if it breaks there it's going to 110 again despite the lack of demand.

But we have to "save" the climate so screwing over the middle class again for the umpteenth time is just the price we have to pay.
 

campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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Well, 50% of homes in the US use natural gas for heat. Biden is already shutting off domestic production by ending leasing on .gov land, plus he wants us to be completely off natural gas within 15 years. All that means is we'll be importing everything again and prices will go through the roof, even without the inflationary effect of all this stimulus. Crude oil is already close to 70 and if it breaks there it's going to 110 again despite the lack of demand.

But we have to "save" the climate so screwing over the middle class again for the umpteenth time is just the price we have to pay.
The US will be able to get most of its electricity from renewables and nuclear within 15 years. Not sure about fuel though.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,666
The US will be able to get most of its electricity from renewables and nuclear within 15 years. Not sure about fuel though.
That doesn't matter though. 50% of households have nat gas or propane furnaces. I literally just had one installed because there was no other option -- I didn't want to continue with heating oil and heat pumps aren't efficient enough to get a large portion of the country through the winter if you have a single family home. I live in an older home built in the 20's that requires a backup like propane, otherwise it will be Texas inside my house. So until there is better technology for "renewables" or AOC pays for my clean energy nuclear reactor in my basement, you're going to fuck over a lot of people with these ridiculous policies. But at the end of the day that is what climate activism is --it's fucking over people for the religion of the earth.

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Setting things in motion for another middle east adventure
And this, too, probably.
 

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