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maxi

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Aug 31, 2006
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It's almost impossible to find a non-biased british news station in the UK. There is a growing movement to defund the BBC for their increasing 'left leaning' coverage, for a service that's meant to be impartial. Many people over here resonate with the idea that they dont reflect the views of the majority and instead represents the views of leftist city elites (who typically work in the BBC).
Having said that, a new right-leaning fox news type channel is coming this year in the hopes of poaching their viewers, but I'd rather they create a totally impartial non-opinionated channel that just states the facts objectively, like the examples mentioned above (I.e. DW, RT e.t.c) .
 

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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,646
ssshhhh don't pay attention to that

THERE, LOOK. LADY GAGA!!!! ISN'T SHE AWESOME SAUCE OHMERGOD SHE ALSO POSTED THE RAINBOW AND WEARS A BURNLOOTMURDER STICKER SO BRAVE AND STUNNING

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Nice to see everyone out on social media today, saying "fuck you" to the 75 million or whatever "human excrement" Trump voters.

It's not about healing, it's about heeling.

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ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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The BBC left-leaning and run by “leftist” city elites (bit of an oxymoron) lol? Their new chairman is literally a neolib Tory donor who directed a right-wing think tank.
man, everything is a leftist leaning thing now. The cool thing is to talk shit on universities and higher education for being left think tanks that churn out libs
 

maxi

Senior Member
Aug 31, 2006
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The BBC left-leaning and run by “leftist” city elites (bit of an oxymoron) lol? Their new chairman is literally a neolib Tory donor who directed a right-wing think tank.
He took up that position only a couple of months ago. He even admittingly said himself that the BBC was too left wing, lol.
From promising to spend £100 million of taxpayers money on 'diversity initiatives', threatening to tone down the proms for its 'glorification of colonialism/nationalism', as well its overtly left wing comedy shows and subtly left leaning opinionated news, it's pretty obvious to most people living in the UK. Not sure the americans here would understand.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,646
They got what they wanted. Guess that wasn't enough!

WHERE IS PRESIDENT BIDEN?!


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US foreign policy sucks big time, plain and simple.
It might be just getting started.

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The locals will be able to tell the difference once they see the clenched fists rain down on them.
Super spreaders of freedom.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Trump bombed the shit out of all these countries. He withdrew ground troops, and deserves credit for that, as well as not starting any new wars, but bombing ramped way the heck up during the trump admin from Obama years. So no need to misrepresent like bombing somehow stopped the past 4 years when it actually increased. It helped allow him to withdraw ground troops, but he still increased the rates significantly.



https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallm...on-afghanistan-as-it-did-in-2018-infographic/

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/1/29/record-7423-us-bombs-dropped-in-afghanistan-in-2019-report

Not to mention civilian deaths in Middle East skyrocketing during Trump admin. Which given the nature of the wars I’m not sure I think is necessarily something his admin should be take all the blame for.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...344968-2932-11e8-874b-d517e912f125_story.html

Anyways, this is a good article on the geopolitics of it, and how difficult it is to stop or change

https://www.fpri.org/article/2019/12/obama-and-trump-foreign-policy-opposites-or-twins/
 
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Jun 6, 2015
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It's almost impossible to find a non-biased british news station in the UK. There is a growing movement to defund the BBC for their increasing 'left leaning' coverage, for a service that's meant to be impartial. Many people over here resonate with the idea that they dont reflect the views of the majority and instead represents the views of leftist city elites (who typically work in the BBC).
Having said that, a new right-leaning fox news type channel is coming this year in the hopes of poaching their viewers, but I'd rather they create a totally impartial non-opinionated channel that just states the facts objectively, like the examples mentioned above (I.e. DW, RT e.t.c) .
The thing is these defund BBC types don't really want factual reporting, they want news tailored for them. If they really wanted factual reporting they would understand that some news will make you feel uncomfortable. However they don't want to feel uncomfortable and thus they only want to read news that feed into their view of the world.
 

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MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,892
Whoops.

'No plan, no Q, nothing': QAnon followers reel as Biden inaugurated

SAN FRANCISCO/NEW YORK (Reuters) - For three years, adherents of the sprawling QAnon conspiracy theory awaited a so-called Great Awakening, scouring anonymous web postings from a shadowy “Q” figure and parsing statements by former U.S. President Donald Trump, whom they believed to be their champion.

On Wednesday, they grappled with a harsh reality check: Trump had left office with no mass arrests or other victories against the supposed cabal of Satan-worshipping pedophile cannibal elites, especially Democrats, he was ostensibly fighting.

Instead, Democratic President Joseph Biden was calmly sworn into office, leaving legions of QAnon faithful struggling to make sense of what had transpired.

In one Telegram channel with more than 18,400 members, QAnon believers were split between those still urging others to ‘trust the plan’ and those saying they felt betrayed. “It’s obvious now we’ve been had. No plan, no Q, nothing,” wrote one user.

Some messages referenced theories that a coup was going to take place before the end of Inauguration Day. Others moved the goalposts again, speculating that Trump would be sworn into office on Mar. 4.

“Does anybody have any idea what we should be waiting for next or what the next move could be?” asked another user, who said they wanted to have a ‘big win’ and arrests made.

Jared Holt, a disinformation researcher at the Atlantic Council, said he had never before seen disillusionment in the QAnon communities he monitors at this scale.

“It’s the whole ‘trust the plan’ thing. Q believers have just allowed themselves to be strung from failed promise to failed promise.”

“The whole movement is called into question now.”

A poll with more than 36,000 votes conducted in another QAnon Telegram channel before Biden’s swearing-in ceremony showed that more than 20% of respondents predicted nothing would in fact happen and Biden would become president, according to the Q Origins Project, which tracks the movement.

However, 34% believe “the military & Trump have a plan coming in the near future,” even while acknowledging the transfer of presidential power.

JARRING REVERSAL
The anonymous person or people known as “Q” started posting the vague predictions that would become the basis of the QAnon movement on message board 4chan in 2017, claiming to be a Trump administration insider with top secret security clearance.

The number of followers exploded with the arrival of the coronavirus last year, providing a sense of community missing in many people’s isolated pandemic lives by encouraging participants to “do their own research” and contribute findings to the crowd.

Q interpreters have become mini-celebrities in their own right, spreading the gospel on mainstream sites like Facebook, Twitter and YouTube and raising money with appeals to charity or merchandise sales, before the social media platforms cracked down late last year.

Among them was Ron Watkins, who was among a small group of movement leaders who stepped up their public activity after Trump’s loss in the Nov. 3 election, as the “drops” from Q slowed and then stopped.

The longtime administrator of 8kun, an unmoderated forum where Q posted alongside violent extremists and racists, Watkins adopted the cryptic tone of Q in the past two months on Twitter and then Telegram.

At the same time he positioned himself as an expert on election fraud, getting retweeted by Trump and interviewed by Trump-favored media outlets such as One America News Network.

In one of the most jarring apparent reversals on Wednesday, Watkins appeared to admit defeat, posting: “We have a new president sworn in and it is our responsibility as citizens to respect the Constitution regardless of whether or not we agree with the specifics.”

“Please remember all the friends and happy memories we made together over the past few years.” He said he was working on a new venture, but gave no further details.

On TheDonald.win, a reconstituted version of the Reddit forum “The Donald” that long served as an online home for Trump loyalists, users turned on Watkins and accused him of being a “shill” and a CIA plant.

Other fringe groups, including neo-Nazis, said they intended to capitalize on the disarray by stepping up recruitment from among QAnon followers.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...owers-reel-as-biden-inaugurated-idUSKBN29P2VO

Without a doubt though, this is certainly not the last time we will have seen something like this.

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She looks in a lot of pain. I actually feel bad for her.
It genuinely is sad. There are certainly a bunch of them that are violent, "alt-right" assholes that deserve the worst in life, but there are definitely some that are just vulnerable Americans that have bought into lies and bullshit for the past 3 or so years. Be it loneliness, desire to belong to a community, or even a desire to actually "save the children," there are so many facets to this. It's as interesting as it is concerning and depressing.

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They got what they wanted. Guess that wasn't enough!

WHERE IS PRESIDENT BIDEN?!

Just came across this below. The group you're referring to will never get what they want, as what they want doesn't make sense.

 
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JuveJay

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Doesn't he remember when Parisians signed that treaty in 1783 to formally establish his country? Or when the people from the palace signed the Treaty of Versailles in 1919?

A true patriot would remember what the people of Paris have done for the United States.
 

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