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My issue is not so much whether or not the Democrats supported the riots, but rather the fact that they were so dismissive and quiet on the matter even months in. The level of concern they showed was little to none compared to Wednesday's attack. A few words here and there or the odd tweet against violence means nothing. There should have been clear bipartisan efforts to condemn this and to solve the problem.
The Media on the other hand are far worse, where you actually have 'highly respected' journalists like Chris Cuomo wrongly interpreting the constitution to thousands of viewers on live air, as to excuse the violence. That's worrying, especially when you have these same journalists/media companies suddenly turn 180 on their heal when the opposition does the same thing. Only a fool would refuse to admit that there is a clear and blatant agenda being pushed.
This is blatantly untrue. I live in a Democrat city in a Democrat state, and can tell you first hand that this is false. I don't even know what you're looking for, because everytime you're presented with evidence contrary to your point you dismiss it and move the goalposts. It's not as if there was some huge joint statement made by Republicans about the other day - and they shouldn't have to.
I don't go to journalists for interpretations on Constitutional law. Even so, how is that video "far worse" than what we've seen from actual elected officials supporting or calling for storming the Capitol?
 

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This is blatantly untrue. I live in a Democrat city in a Democrat state, and can tell you first hand that this is false. I don't even know what you're looking for, because everytime you're presented with evidence contrary to your point you dismiss it and move the goalposts. It's not as if there was some huge joint statement made by Republicans about the other day - and they shouldn't have to.
I don't go to journalists for interpretations on Constitutional law. Even so, how is that video "far worse" than what we've seen from actual elected officials supporting or calling for storming the Capitol?

Exactly. It’s not even close. Trump et al. have been planning the attack on the Capitol for months. Since before the election. Stoking the flames of nonsense regardless of the reality. And people died, more people that Benghazi and we all no what republicans thought about that.
 

maxi

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Aug 31, 2006
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It's not as if there was some huge joint statement made by Republicans about the other day - and they shouldn't have to.
No they shouldn't, but they certainly did a better job collectively at condemning this by their own volition than the democrats did with the BLM riots.

I don't go to journalists for interpretations on Constitutional law.
Perhaps you don't, but the reality is that many people do. What happened to being against false information? Where were the fact-checkers?

Even so, how is that video "far worse" than what we've seen from actual elected officials supporting or calling for storming the Capitol?
The very fact that you have big-name personalities saying that this stuff is okay or doesn't bother them is worrying, irrespective of party affiliation. Thuggery is thuggery.
Interestingly, in that misleading independent article you sent, only one entered the building. The article accuses the other 5 of 'participating in the riot' for simply just being there at the rally. It's like they think everyone who turned up was prepared to storm the capitol, lol. They lumped them into the same group as the thugs, but god forbid anyone lumps the few Antifa looters with the majority peaceful BLM protestors.
 

maxi

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Exactly. It’s not even close. Trump et al. have been planning the attack on the Capitol for months. Since before the election. Stoking the flames of nonsense regardless of the reality. And people died, more people that Benghazi and we all no what republicans thought about that.
Proof? Because now you're sounding like the conspiracy theorists you criticise.
 

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No they shouldn't, but they certainly did a better job collectively at condemning this by their own volition than the democrats did with the BLM riots.


Perhaps you don't, but the reality is that many people do. What happened to being against false information? Where were the fact-checkers?


The very fact that you have big-name personalities saying that this stuff is okay or doesn't bother them is worrying, irrespective of party affiliation. Thuggery is thuggery.
Interestingly, in that misleading independent article you sent, only one entered the building. The article accuses the other 5 of 'participating in the riot' for simply just being there at the rally. It's like they think everyone who turned up was prepared to storm the capitol, lol. They lumped them into the same group as the thugs, but god forbid anyone lumps the few Antifa looters with the majority peaceful BLM protestors.
The republican leaders that are condemning the violence are responsible for the violence.

That’s it, that’s the difference.
 

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Oct 11, 2005
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Proof? Because now you're sounding like the conspiracy theorists you criticise.
Not at all. Just read the presidential Twitter. Trump knew the Dems would steal the election before the election. The go read his stooges.

Immediately before the riot republicans including the president gave speeches telling their followers to riot.
 

maxi

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Aug 31, 2006
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Was the fact that Trump, Mitch, Pence, Lindsey, Cruz, Hawley, Haley e.t.c. all condemned this not enough for you?

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Not at all. Just read the presidential Twitter. Trump knew the Dems would steal the election before the election. The go read his stooges.

Immediately before the riot republicans including the president gave speeches telling their followers to riot.
No he did not, that's just false. I listened to the speech myself. At the end he put specific emphasis on the 'peaceful' march to the Capitol (which the media obviously edited out). He did not tell them to go riot and storm the Capitol.
 

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Feb 9, 2013
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Twitter permanently suspends Trump :rofl:

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Was the fact that Trump, Mitch, Pence, Lindsey, Cruz, Hawley, Haley e.t.c. all condemned this not enough for you?

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No he did not, that's just false. I listened to the speech myself. At the end he put specific emphasis on the 'peaceful' march to the Capitol (which the media obviously edited out). He did not tell them to go riot and storm the Capitol.
:lol:

What a clown.

Gosar, Gaetz, Brooks, Greene... Fox News, OAN, Newsmax all blaming Antifa false flag operation :lol:

Besides. Orange snowflake president And his goons incited this. A seditious attempt at a coup d’état against the duly elected government, because they’re unbelievably butthurt about getting crushed in the election :lol:
 

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Was the fact that Trump, Mitch, Pence, Lindsey, Cruz, Hawley, Haley e.t.c. all condemned this not enough for you?

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No he did not, that's just false. I listened to the speech myself. At the end he put specific emphasis on the 'peaceful' march to the Capitol (which the media obviously edited out). He did not tell them to go riot and storm the Capitol.
Absolutely not. Especially after telling their supporters to stand and fight for months. The only reason they gave “thoughts and prayers” is because of what happened. If there hadn’t been a riot they’d all still be banging the “country was taken from us” drum.

Not literally, obviously. Your boy was inciting as was Rudy. I guess I saw the speech differently.
 

campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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Twitter permanently suspends Trump :rofl:

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:lol:

What a clown.

Gosar, Gaetz, Brooks, Greene... Fox News, OAN, Newsmax all blaming Antifa false flag operation :lol:

Besides. Orange snowflake president And his goons incited this. A seditious attempt at a coup d’état against the duly elected government, because they’re unbelievably butthurt about getting crushed in the election :lol:
These people are sickening. They are basically like Alex Jones, who said Sandy Hook was a false flag so he could shove his gun up his ass.
 

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May 22, 2009
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The fact that guys like Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley invested all they had on the MAGA movement thinking they could have all of it only for the whole movement to crash and burn. Trump benefited and is now leaving only to drop this whole shit on their faces :lol:
 

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Jun 25, 2003
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https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspension.html

It's the right call.

Trump on Twitter just toxic narcissist behaviour and it's filling people with hate and rage.

But you have to wonder what makes people so susceptible to fall for this dude. It's not as if Trump pretends to be a healthy, balanced grown up. He has been a belligerent cunt for decades.

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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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The fact that guys like Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley invested all they had on the MAGA movement thinking they could have all of it only for the whole movement to crash and burn. Trump benefited and is now leaving only to drop this whole shit on their faces
Trump was a billionaire going into this. He was shady, but he could buy his way out of trouble.

He honestly didn't have a care in the world if he didn't want to.

Now he has a very big part of America that is very determined to seeing him in jail.

Trump did not benefit.

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