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Bjerknes

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According to the report the return to full employment would be faster with Biden which leads to faster economic growth in the beginning, another factor they mention is their differences in regards to foreign trade. Trump's trade war with China slows the economy down and they (rightly) assume Biden wouldn't continue that war.

Also regarding your second paragraph, there are levels to government spending. Venezuela is a lazy comparison as I doubt anyone in the US is looking to follow their model. Nor do I think that there is the same level of corruption in the US government. There are plenty of strong economies here in Europe for example that rely on government spending to differing degrees.

We're quite unlikely to see either party win with a sweep though so we won't see either scenario happen in reality. It'll be one of the in-between scenarios again and there isn't likely much difference between them when it comes to economic growth. I posted that report here because it's another piece of evidence that refutes the belief that Trump is undoubtedly better for the economy. The president seems to make little difference for economic growth unless he holds both the house and the senate.

This whole discussion again seems to come down to the age old question about who should see the benefits of that economic growth.
But that again comes down to government spending which Keynesians see as real growth and Austrians/Classicals do not. And the reason for that is you're taking away from the real economy and pulling forward supply and demand that can't go on forever.

I also don't agree with comparing us to European nations. We're obviously much larger, have a much more dynamic economy, typically have a more diverse population base, and a plethora of various types of industry. People, goods, and services have to travel pretty far on a daily basis. Education costs in the US are extremely high compared to Europe, while gas prices are the opposite. Try to implement programs like in France and you'll stifle this economy with inflation of real goods soaring even before the currency debasement begins.

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There is no cap on the stupidity of most American women
Also, what's all this stuff I keep hearing about African American women being the most oppressed people in the world? Is that even for real? I find a hard time believing they are more oppressed than trans-women of any race, but this probably goes back to the pity party again.

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One more reason why i love the trump presidency, the masks fall off and you get to see unfiltered and beyond the sanctimonious talk how ugly these people truly are.
The morally superior anti-fascist fascists.
 
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Hust

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Do people really think current world is worse than when terrorist bombs would go off every other day? Cause that shit was hell.
Nowadays is kinderkarten in comparison. People should keep their heads cooler.
And who were the President's then?

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The Rock calls Biden's career "incredible". LOLOL

Racism is fine. Plagirism is fine. Cheating is fine. As long as it's a democrat.
 

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Do people really think current world is worse than when terrorist bombs would go off every other day? Cause that shit was hell.
Nowadays is kinderkarten in comparison. People should keep their heads cooler.
The terrorists were never an existential threat, if anything they galvanized the nation. People should read history and get better insight of events.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Do people really think current world is worse than when terrorist bombs would go off every other day? Cause that shit was hell.
Nowadays is kinderkarten in comparison. People should keep their heads cooler.
If folks closed their eyes and imagined their lives without covid, the media, and rioting, they would see there is really no difference between now and five years ago. The only reason why people think everything is so bad now is because of one of the worst pandemics in the last century, which is an external, largely uncontrollable factor, while the rest is completely contrived social non-issues. IMO of course.

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And who were the President's then?

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The Rock calls Biden's career "incredible". LOLOL

Racism is fine. Plagirism is fine. Cheating is fine. As long as it's a democrat.
:lol:

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I wouldn't consider "the Rock" as an authority on anything other than steroid usage.
 

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lol people are already going after her adopted kids. at least with Kavanaugh his kids were off limits

not anymore
that’s silly, her bias and inexperience are two pretty big strikes

but she’s gonna get confirmed no matter what, dems would be smart to push that momentum into their campaigns rather than go after her for personal reasons
 

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It’s not much different than retards on the right telling everyone who doesn’t agree with their specific vision/idea of America to just get the fuck out of America. But ya know, “their ideas don’t stand on their merit” so they just call everyone who disagrees anti-american and tell them they don’t deserve to be American.
feeble minds aren’t bound to a specific political thought.
 

Hust

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that’s silly, her bias and inexperience are two pretty big strikes

but she’s gonna get confirmed no matter what, dems would be smart to push that momentum into their campaigns rather than go after her for personal reasons
Dems lost the Senate seats because they went full mental on the last hearing. Dems are already refusing to meet her, again throwing more temper tantrums. They haven't learned a single thing.

Justices throughout our history have been religious, so why is it suddenly a strike against her? It's now a sin in this country to run for office and be religious? Suddenly there is a religious test to be a judge? If her being a devout Catholic makes her unfit for SCOTUS then the same litmus test should be used for Biden since he claims to be a devout Catholic.

What inexperience are you talking about? Was Justice Kagan even a judge before she was nominated for SCOTUS? All she did was clerk. Her nomination stalled for her first appointment and she STILL got 63 votes by both sides. But ACB graduated top of her class, clerked for Scalia, appointed to 7th court and had 3 Dems vote for her. She at least has been a judge.

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If folks closed their eyes and imagined their lives without covid, the media, and rioting, they would see there is really no difference between now and five years ago. The only reason why people think everything is so bad now is because of one of the worst pandemics in the last century, which is an external, largely uncontrollable factor, while the rest is completely contrived social non-issues. IMO of course.

I wouldn't consider "the Rock" as an authority on anything other than steroid usage.
Some people just like to see the world burn.
 

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Dems lost the Senate seats because they went full mental on the last hearing. Dems are already refusing to meet her, again throwing more temper tantrums. They haven't learned a single thing.

Justices throughout our history have been religious, so why is it suddenly a strike against her? It's now a sin in this country to run for office and be religious? Suddenly there is a religious test to be a judge? If her being a devout Catholic makes her unfit for SCOTUS then the same litmus test should be used for Biden since he claims to be a devout Catholic.

What inexperience are you talking about? Was Justice Kagan even a judge before she was nominated for SCOTUS? All she did was clerk. Her nomination stalled for her first appointment and she STILL got 63 votes by both sides. But ACB graduated top of her class, clerked for Scalia, appointed to 7th court and had 3 Dems vote for her. She at least has been a judge.

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Some people just like to see the world burn.
Dude, the Supreme Court is majority catholic. Religion isn’t the issue. It’s political bias. She’ll most likely over turn Roe. Dems should go after that, hard.
As for her inexperience, she is. So was Kagan. There you go. Also, it’s the Supreme Court so they’re all real smart.

Dems should be hard but fair with her confirmation but realize the inevitability that she’s going to make the court overwhelmingly conservative. Hit on Roe and the perceived hypocrisy of Repubs and turn that into fundraising gains in important Senate races.

Then start drafting letters to see if PR is interested in statehood.:D
 

Hust

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Dude, the Supreme Court is majority catholic. Religion isn’t the issue. It’s political bias. She’ll most likely over turn Roe. Dems should go after that, hard.
As for her inexperience, she is. So was Kagan. There you go. Also, it’s the Supreme Court so they’re all real smart.

Dems should be hard but fair with her confirmation but realize the inevitability that she’s going to make the court overwhelmingly conservative. Hit on Roe and the perceived hypocrisy of Repubs and turn that into fundraising gains in important Senate races.

Then start drafting letters to see if PR is interested in statehood.:D
I agree. Both sides should be. The whole "dogma lives heavy in you" is bullsit. Either she can or she can't do the job and ping her hard on her past rulings, that's all fair game.


Claiming she is masking her racism by adopting two Haitian kids is messed up. I know they are all smart on the supreme court, and so is ACB. They tried using the same shots on a Roe overturn on Kavanaugh b/c every conservative appointment is one step closer. It didn't work well for the last midterms.
 

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I agree. Both sides should be. The whole "dogma lives heavy in you" is bullsit. Either she can or she can't do the job and ping her hard on her past rulings, that's all fair game.


Claiming she is masking her racism by adopting two Haitian kids is messed up. I know they are all smart on the supreme court, and so is ACB. They tried using the same shots on a Roe overturn on Kavanaugh b/c every conservative appointment is one step closer. It didn't work well for the last midterms.
I don’t think they went after Kavanaugh as hard as they could on his executive power beliefs. Instead they spent too much time of the rape bullshit. That’s what messed up the mid terms. If they had focused on the major issues they could have done better. But all that was without a major election, RGB alive, no BLM and basically no sense of urgency for the left. Now there is, they’d be smart for focus on.
 

Hust

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I don’t think they went after Kavanaugh as hard as they could on his executive power beliefs. Instead they spent too much time of the rape bullshit. That’s what messed up the mid terms. If they had focused on the major issues they could have done better. But all that was without a major election, RGB alive, no BLM and basically no sense of urgency for the left. Now there is, they’d be smart for focus on.
:tup:
 

Hust

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I understand many people now have the sadz. The real story is that his taxes were leaked illegally and they STILL couldn't find anything illegal. Pretty easy to justify it, even for minions, when NYT admits they couldn't find anything illegal.

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Meanwhile Trump gets a third nomination.

Liberal media "BOMBSHELL" shows no Russian connection or illegality :touched:

Sounds like winning to me.
 

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I understand many people now have the sadz. The real story is that his taxes were leaked illegally and they STILL couldn't find anything illegal. Pretty easy to justify it, even for minions, when NYT admits they couldn't find anything illegal.

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Meanwhile Trump gets a third nomination.

Liberal media "BOMBSHELL" shows no Russian connection or illegality :touched:

Sounds like winning to me.
wat
 

Bjerknes

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I understand many people now have the sadz. The real story is that his taxes were leaked illegally and they STILL couldn't find anything illegal. Pretty easy to justify it, even for minions, when NYT admits they couldn't find anything illegal.

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Meanwhile Trump gets a third nomination.

Liberal media "BOMBSHELL" shows no Russian connection or illegality :touched:

Sounds like winning to me.
Of course he didn't do anything illegal with his taxes. The left just wants him to pay more cuz he's a bazzillionaire.

Anybody who isn't trying their best to pay the least amount in taxes is just an idiot, really not sure what else to call it.
 

Hust

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Of course he didn't do anything illegal with his taxes. The left just wants him to pay more cuz he's a bazzillionaire.

Anybody who isn't trying their best to pay the least amount in taxes is just an idiot, really not sure what else to call it.
I wonder if anyone here goes to their accountant come tax season and asks for the smallest tax return possible.


Anyway, this wonderful CNN tweet didn't age well:


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CNN should do the same for Hunter now.

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They'd be batting .500 :lol:
 

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