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[jukazem]

you two just sound like those who cheer for Saddam or wish him back to rule Iraq because the new Rulers are nothing better, But you guys forget how Saddam killed his own people too.. Just like you forget how Moggi harmed his club and fans when everyone trusted him. want him back?? excuse me but you must be retard to ask him back..

I still cant see how Moggi harmed us. Everyone were doing it, he was doing it better than the others until an insider let it out. So isnt it the insiders fault. The other clubs got away with it because they sticked together and who else pleaded guilty. It was a typical example of who will guard the guards.

 

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Why only 4 years, Moggi said that for him self, but why only 4 years, who is going to stop them after 4 years??
Moggi?



:toast:

Well first year has passed easily with Juventus in Serie B and Inter controlling the Merkato = Inter won the scudetto and collected one for us.
Then the second year is this upcoming season. Inter are holding champions they have the cash and the sponsers they can invest all they desire in Merkato. Milan are recovering from the calciopli but they won the CL which is a big boost financially. Juventus have just came back from Serie B and are still bleeding money to dealth. Its true that IFIL gave us 100 million euro but most of which will go to paying debts and stabilizing the financial base. This is simply causing us not being able to bid higher for the players we want (e.g. Gabi Milito case). So our squad will be left not well done. Roma and Lazio are hanging by their endless debts. They might be able to buy themselves another year deadline every year but they cannot invest alot in merkato. So this upcoming season will logically go to either Milan and Inter.
3rd season is 08-09, Again With Milan or Inter being holding Champions add to that the possibility of one of them being holding champions for the CL they get all the money and sponsers.
Juventus, because they only had the Serie A to concetrate on the previous season they might reach CL this season. Meaning more cash flow to the club.On the transfer market Juventus might be able to continue grewing and completing rebuilding the squad which they started doing so summer 2007. Still slightly bleeding financially from the calciopli. Juventus also might get improvements in the sponsers conttracts.
Roma and Lazio's situation won't change.
So Inter and Milan are still the ones mainly competing for the Scudetto because Juventus will be playing for the first time in 2 years in the CL with a squad that might not be fully ready to play to big tornaments.
4th season 09-10: Similar to 08-09 but with differences that Juventus might have bettter finances to invest in the transfer market to complete building their squad. So this season should mark the real competing Juventus. Whether Juventus can win the Serie A or not that is too difficult to tell, but surely a year after the carpet will be slowly withdrawn from the Milan clubs.

I guess this is the only explanation to the 4 number of years Moggi hinted on.. And I always beleived that Inter and Milan feel that they have bought themselve the championship for 3-5 years with this calciopoli.

Now what would happen if Juventus won the 07-08 Scudetto :toast: :toast:
God I want it to happen soooooo bad..

Just my two cents.

 

[Marc]

Sigh, why Calcio cannot be just about football anymore.....

 

[Gill_juve]

I still cant see how Moggi harmed us. Everyone were doing it, he was doing it better than the others until an insider let it out. So isnt it the insiders fault. The other clubs got away with it because they sticked together and who else pleaded guilty. It was a typical example of who will guard the guards.

then again where theres smoke theres fire. moggi was great but he wasnt completely innocent either.

 

[baggio]

That's the point. He may not have been innocent but at the same time he wasnt the only one who deserved to be punished because everybody does stuff. He was really good at his job and his ejection was nothing more than a severe case of competition, desperation and jealousy.

 

[Snoop]

It pisses me off to see those same Juve fans who once celebrated all of our successes now calling the architect of it all a cheat and liar. No matter what your opinion is on Calciopoli, your are nothing but a filthy cunt if you disrespect Luciano Moggi.

oh don't be pissed off honey, the time we were celebrating the Scudetti and all we didn't know anything about the Calciopoli , knowing it now doesn't make me happy neither, it disgusts me to see all those success came after Moggi's dirty works. But if you don't mind winning in dirty ways, then I can't tell you anything.

Moggi is the filthy cunt himself, I would respect him if he apologized the Juve fans for making Juve name dirty, but instead he still links his name with Juve every fucking day. so BIG FUCK YOU MOGGI

 

[Marc]

I think Lippi and the players deserve much more credit for all those trophies than Moggi.

 

[Snoop]

I fixed the games bribed the refrees and beat the shit out of them and threated any one who doesn't obey me to make his life hell, just to defend my club, hellooo I am innocent, please love me

 

[Snoop]

I think Lippi and the players deserve much more credit for all those trophies than Moggi.

maybe or maybe not! as long as Moggi was directing my club, I can't be sure of anything! not just me, any football fan..

 

[baggio]

Are you trying to tell me Moratti, Guido Rossi and co. are as clean as Capello's nostrils? Let's not BS. Moggi was an easy victim and a more sought after one given Juve's success. Remember, it's the system that makes a person work in certain ways. So when he says he was protecting Juventus, I would be compelled to believe it. Call me biased, but when I look at the people in power, at the so called bigger clubs, I'd rather be that way.

 

[The Pado]

Could you give us some reasoning on that, Pado?

Yes. Juve fans, and many are angry with Moggi or hate Moggi for Calciopoli, but the answer will never be to post on the club's main English-language fan site such abuse, when the facts have still never be revealed to us. I believe that, what ever your feelings toward Moggi, you keep it in house and not show fans of other clubs that we are a divided house.

 

[tonykart]

Moggi was playing the same game as everyone else. He was just better than everyone else and the powers at be put him down. I have no doubt in my mind that Moggi is telling the truth in this matter. It is what i've expected all along. People always need someone to blame and the easy target is Moggi. But, I assure everyone that this problem runs way deeper than you could even expect. Every league in every sport around whole world is doing stuff like this. For Juventus to get ousted like this is a total sham to the entire sporting world. We will miss Moggi more than we know. He was the master. It is a shame that people are naive enough to beleive that he was such an evil-doer.

 

[Rami]

Well first year has passed easily with Juventus in Serie B and Inter controlling the Merkato = Inter won the scudetto and collected one for us.
Then the second year is this upcoming season. Inter are holding champions they have the cash and the sponsers they can invest all they desire in Merkato. Milan are recovering from the calciopli but they won the CL which is a big boost financially. Juventus have just came back from Serie B and are still bleeding money to dealth. Its true that IFIL gave us 100 million euro but most of which will go to paying debts and stabilizing the financial base. This is simply causing us not being able to bid higher for the players we want (e.g. Gabi Milito case). So our squad will be left not well done. Roma and Lazio are hanging by their endless debts. They might be able to buy themselves another year deadline every year but they cannot invest alot in merkato. So this upcoming season will logically go to either Milan and Inter.
3rd season is 08-09, Again With Milan or Inter being holding Champions add to that the possibility of one of them being holding champions for the CL they get all the money and sponsers.
Juventus, because they only had the Serie A to concetrate on the previous season they might reach CL this season. Meaning more cash flow to the club.On the transfer market Juventus might be able to continue grewing and completing rebuilding the squad which they started doing so summer 2007. Still slightly bleeding financially from the calciopli. Juventus also might get improvements in the sponsers conttracts.
Roma and Lazio's situation won't change.
So Inter and Milan are still the ones mainly competing for the Scudetto because Juventus will be playing for the first time in 2 years in the CL with a squad that might not be fully ready to play to big tornaments.
4th season 09-10: Similar to 08-09 but with differences that Juventus might have bettter finances to invest in the transfer market to complete building their squad. So this season should mark the real competing Juventus. Whether Juventus can win the Serie A or not that is too difficult to tell, but surely a year after the carpet will be slowly withdrawn from the Milan clubs.

I guess this is the only explanation to the 4 number of years Moggi hinted on.. And I always beleived that Inter and Milan feel that they have bought themselve the championship for 3-5 years with this calciopoli.

Now what would happen if Juventus won the 07-08 Scudetto :toast: :toast:
God I want it to happen soooooo bad..

Just my two cents.

Or that Moogi's ban will finish after 5 years from the scandal. One passed by and 4 left

 

[Gill_juve]

oh don't be pissed off honey, the time we were celebrating the Scudetti and all we didn't know anything about the Calciopoli , knowing it now doesn't make me happy neither, it disgusts me to see all those success came after Moggi's dirty works. But if you don't mind winning in dirty ways, then I can't tell you anything.

Moggi is the filthy cunt himself, I would respect him if he apologized the Juve fans for making Juve name dirty, but instead he still links his name with Juve every fucking day. so BIG FUCK YOU MOGGI

tbh i dont get why people are protecting him so much, as if this whole saga never went on. he didnt apologise at all even though out of respect he shoudl have to the fans. moggi was rotten and even though he was a great figure for us he still did things that werent allowed. as much as i hate to say it, theres no smoke without fire.

 

[rounder]

tbh i dont get why people are protecting him so much, as if this whole saga never went on. he didnt apologise at all even though out of respect he shoudl have to the fans. moggi was rotten and even though he was a great figure for us he still did things that werent allowed. as much as i hate to say it, theres no smoke without fire.

neither do I .
bottom line is , he has put a black dot on juve's name forever . We will always be known as the team that cheated and got sent to serie B . the guy was great in the transfer market , but what he did has no excuse , i don't care if everyone was doing the same thing , he at least should have has the common sense to realize what he was doing was wrong and potentially very dangerous to the club's history .

He may be right on some of the points he said about inter , he may be right about everything he says , but he is the reason we went down to serie B , lost our best players , a shit load of money , a whole lot of fans , and our name will never be the same because of this little pest .

 

[chester]

tbh i dont get why people are protecting him so much, as if this whole saga never went on. he didnt apologise at all even though out of respect he shoudl have to the fans. moggi was rotten and even though he was a great figure for us he still did things that werent allowed. as much as i hate to say it, theres no smoke without fire.

Very true gill, moggi did things with the fans, our team and the complete football world that he shouldn't have, I can't believe some guys still supporting him, even wanting him back after what happened.
We wouldn't have been punished if nothing happened, it is as simple as that.
Other teams got of more easiy, that is true, but surely what moggi did shouldn't have been done either.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Yea, he betrayed the club, what is the argument to like him so much?

 

[C4ISR]

Moggi was a scapegoat, and any Juve fan who believes the bullshit dots connected by the media needs to check their facts. Moggi was no worse than the people who somehow got jobs in the FIGC, again. Take away Tronchetti and Rossi, and u would be singing a different tune.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Dude, I thought you were in prison, you have no credibility:

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1444188/20010601/shyne.jhtml

 

[rounder]

Moggi was a scapegoat, and any Juve fan who believes the bullshit dots connected by the media needs to check their facts. Moggi was no worse than the people who somehow got jobs in the FIGC, again. Take away Tronchetti and Rossi, and u would be singing a different tune.

that doesnt matter , what matters is that "king moggi" could have easilly put an end to juventus . no that didnt happen , but could have easilly happened , who cares what the rest have done , we all know football is corrupt . how can u defend a guy that has caused juve to have its darkest days in its entire history .