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[Rossoneri]

as long as you acknowledge that it is a paper scudetto and worthless if you appeal for it, those scudetti are ours and always will be, i celebrated the victory and watched my team win them, if milan want it to themselves they are no better than that shit team inter

Well, I actually don't know of any Milan fans that actually sees that paper scudetto as....a real scudetto, if you know what I mean. Most of them acknowledge it as a reparation of our tarnished image. I know you guys think it's lame, but it's a good PR strategy. And given the same opportunity, you guys would go for it too.

 

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[Rami]

Let's look into the depth of these accusations, with 2 nice examples:


Luciano Moggi, Fabiani e Paparesta have fixed the match played on Jan. 30th 2005, Sampdoria Siena, so to get Inzaghi banned, in relation to the match Juventus Sampdoria 1-0, played on Feb. 2nd 2005.


Other suspects are on Udinese-Brescia (maybe you remember it, cause one of the 2 teams scored a gol when the keeper was on the floor injuried). Moggi would have made so that Pinzi, Muntari e Di Michele got booked, so that they couldn't play the following match (that was against us). In that same match Jankuloski got sent off.



Now, +rep to whoever (except those who already know it ) will able to point out what makes these two accusations ridiculous

Well doesn't that make your challenge kinda pointless? You either know or you don't

 

[isha00]

Well doesn't that make your challenge kinda pointless? You either know or you don't

You either have been told or not
You have to deserve the +rep :eyebrows:

 

[Cronios]

we've been so mofo double crossed its funny wen clubs smell juve blood they go in for the kill - f*cking hypocrytes i say! we are immortal! u kill us, we reborn stronger!

all they have to do is, to kill us again...
its just too easy now...

 

[sateeh]

Let's look into the depth of these accusations, with 2 nice examples:


Luciano Moggi, Fabiani e Paparesta have fixed the match played on Jan. 30th 2005, Sampdoria Siena, so to get Inzaghi banned, in relation to the match Juventus Sampdoria 1-0, played on Feb. 2nd 2005.


Other suspects are on Udinese-Brescia (maybe you remember it, cause one of the 2 teams scored a gol when the keeper was on the floor injuried). Moggi would have made so that Pinzi, Muntari e Di Michele got booked, so that they couldn't play the following match (that was against us). In that same match Jankuloski got sent off.



Now, +rep to whoever (except those who already know it ) will able to point out what makes these two accusations ridiculous

so what about the Milan game ?

and how come Milan want a title in a season where they were indicted in for another game ?

 

[petersmit]

if they punish juve again were doomed... :faq2:

 

[Alen]

Let's look into the depth of these accusations, with 2 nice examples:


Luciano Moggi, Fabiani e Paparesta have fixed the match played on Jan. 30th 2005, Sampdoria Siena, so to get Inzaghi banned, in relation to the match Juventus Sampdoria 1-0, played on Feb. 2nd 2005.


Other suspects are on Udinese-Brescia (maybe you remember it, cause one of the 2 teams scored a gol when the keeper was on the floor injuried). Moggi would have made so that Pinzi, Muntari e Di Michele got booked, so that they couldn't play the following match (that was against us). In that same match Jankuloski got sent off.



Now, +rep to whoever (except those who already know it ) will able to point out what makes these two accusations ridiculous

I've been trying for the past 30 minutes but i'm still not sure if i found the correct answer to your question.

About Sampdoria-Siena and S.Inzaghi being banned for the next match, the only ridicilous thing i can think of is : What's the difference if Inzaghi played or didn't play ?
He played on 5 matches that season, came from the bench on all of them, and didn't score a goal. Why would Moggi want Sampdorias worst player banned ? And he got the yellow card for diving.
Really ? What a suprise , because Inzaghi brothers never dive.

As for Udinese-Brescia i'm not sure if i got it right but i read that all these players you mentioned protested because Brescia scored while Udineses goalkeeper was lying on the ground. They must have told many things to the referee so he gave them yellow cards and a red card to Jankulovski.
But neather Muntari neather Pinzi or Di Michele were suspended for the next match, only Jankulovski was.
So, i can't find a connection between them getting yellow cards and Moggi telling the ref to give them yellows, because they weren't actually banned for the match against us.
It's ridicilous how the prosecutor blames Moggi for these players getting yellow cards and says how these cards were given so Udinese would be weaken against us, when it's obvious why did they get the yellows and they actually played against us and weren't banned.


There's another interesting game. Lazio-Juventus.
Somewhere around 40 minute Lazio weren't given a penalty because the linesman Stagnoli told the main referee how that faul wasn't for penalty.
And now the prosecutors find this situation suspicious and claim the linesman helped Juve.
But not the linesman who said it's not offside ( Stagnoli). They say the other linesman ( Ambrosino) was the one who helped Juventus in this situation.

 

[Alen]

Let's look into the depth of these accusations, with 2 nice examples:


Luciano Moggi, Fabiani e Paparesta have fixed the match played on Jan. 30th 2005, Sampdoria Siena, so to get Inzaghi banned, in relation to the match Juventus Sampdoria 1-0, played on Feb. 2nd 2005.


Other suspects are on Udinese-Brescia (maybe you remember it, cause one of the 2 teams scored a gol when the keeper was on the floor injuried). Moggi would have made so that Pinzi, Muntari e Di Michele got booked, so that they couldn't play the following match (that was against us). In that same match Jankuloski got sent off.



Now, +rep to whoever (except those who already know it ) will able to point out what makes these two accusations ridiculous

I've been trying for the past 30 minutes but i'm still not sure if i found the correct answer to your question.

About Sampdoria-Siena and S.Inzaghi being banned for the next match, the only ridicilous thing i can think of is : What's the difference if Inzaghi played or didn't play ?
He played on 5 matches that season, came from the bench on all of them, and didn't score a goal. Why would Moggi want Sampdorias worst player banned ? And he got the yellow card for diving.
Really ? What a suprise , because Inzaghi brothers never dive.

As for Udinese-Brescia i'm not sure if i got it right but i read that all these players you mentioned protested because Brescia scored while Udineses goalkeeper was lying on the ground. They must have told many things to the referee so he gave them yellow cards and a red card to Jankulovski.
But neather Muntari neather Pinzi or Di Michele were suspended for the next match, only Jankulovski was.
So, i can't find a connection between them getting yellow cards and Moggi telling the ref to give them yellows, because they weren't actually banned for the match against us.
It's ridicilous how the prosecutor blames Moggi for these players getting yellow cards and says how these cards were given so Udinese would be weaken against us, when it's obvious why did they get the yellows and they actually played against us and weren't banned.


There's another interesting game. Lazio-Juventus.
Somewhere around 40 minute Lazio weren't given a penalty because the linesman Stagnoli told the main referee how that faul wasn't for penalty.
And now the prosecutors find this situation suspicious and claim the linesman helped Juve.
But not the linesman who said it's not offside ( Stagnoli). They say the other linesman ( Ambrosino) was the one who helped Juventus in this situation.

 

[petersmit]

god damnit.. theyre putting every refferee mistake AGAINST us i hate it

 

[Alen]

I am sory for the double post i made

Well, I actually don't know of any Milan fans that actually sees that paper scudetto as....a real scudetto, if you know what I mean. Most of them acknowledge it as a reparation of our tarnished image. I know you guys think it's lame, but it's a good PR strategy. And given the same opportunity, you guys would go for it too.

Milan is only trying to sell dirty tricks to the uninformed and naive.

Milan was sentenced for cheating. They weren't sentenced because they worked together with Moggi but because they had a paralel system to the Moggi system.
If Juventus-Milan was really ref influenced then it doesn't prove Milan was innocent, it can only prove Moggi was more succesful than Galliani in their duel.
And i can't believe noone can see what's so ridicilous here : Juventus didn't win the match, it ended 0:0.
If Moggi indeed fixed this match and made sure the referee will help Juventus, then why didn't Juve win the match ?
All it was needed for Juventus to win was a long ball from Thuram in Milans penalty box. Ibrahimovic would have fallen acting like Nesta fauled him and the referee would have given a penalty to Juventus.
But nothing of a kind happened.
Not only that but there was a situation when Costacurta stopped one cross with his hand and the referee didn't give penalty to Juve, didn't even give free kick to Juve because it looks like he stopped the ball at the line, but he said Play ON.

Noone is talking about this but Berlusconi influenced media is trying to sell us some shit about Bertini favouring Juventus because Moggi told him so and how this is the ultimate proof Milan is the victim.

Can somebody give me answer why Juventus didn't win this match if the match was fixed by Moggi ?

+ Rep for the one who will give correct answer

 

[petersmit]

print all this you said and send it to milan.. i know the adress

 

[Alen]

No need for that. They know all this already

 

[Rami]

Can somebody give me answer why Juventus didn't win this match if the match was fixed by Moggi ?

+ Rep for the one who will give correct answer

Cuz it wasn't really fixed

 

[Albertmare]

I am sory for the double post i made


Milan is only trying to sell dirty tricks to the uninformed and naive.

Milan was sentenced for cheating. They weren't sentenced because they worked together with Moggi but because they had a paralel system to the Moggi system.
If Juventus-Milan was really ref influenced then it doesn't prove Milan was innocent, it can only prove Moggi was more succesful than Galliani in their duel.
And i can't believe noone can see what's so ridicilous here : Juventus didn't win the match, it ended 0:0.
If Moggi indeed fixed this match and made sure the referee will help Juventus, then why didn't Juve win the match ?
All it was needed for Juventus to win was a long ball from Thuram in Milans penalty box. Ibrahimovic would have fallen acting like Nesta fauled him and the referee would have given a penalty to Juventus.
But nothing of a kind happened.
Not only that but there was a situation when Costacurta stopped one cross with his hand and the referee didn't give penalty to Juve, didn't even give free kick to Juve because it looks like he stopped the ball at the line, but he said Play ON.

Noone is talking about this but Berlusconi influenced media is trying to sell us some shit about Bertini favouring Juventus because Moggi told him so and how this is the ultimate proof Milan is the victim.

Can somebody give me answer why Juventus didn't win this match if the match was fixed by Moggi ?

+ Rep for the one who will give correct answer

wow , as a newbie , u got my respect for this post

+rep for u

 

[isha00]

I've been trying for the past 30 minutes but i'm still not sure if i found the correct answer to your question.

About Sampdoria-Siena and S.Inzaghi being banned for the next match, the only ridicilous thing i can think of is : What's the difference if Inzaghi played or didn't play ?
He played on 5 matches that season, came from the bench on all of them, and didn't score a goal. Why would Moggi want Sampdorias worst player banned ? And he got the yellow card for diving.
Really ? What a suprise , because Inzaghi brothers never dive.

As for Udinese-Brescia i'm not sure if i got it right but i read that all these players you mentioned protested because Brescia scored while Udineses goalkeeper was lying on the ground. They must have told many things to the referee so he gave them yellow cards and a red card to Jankulovski.
But neather Muntari neather Pinzi or Di Michele were suspended for the next match, only Jankulovski was.
So, i can't find a connection between them getting yellow cards and Moggi telling the ref to give them yellows, because they weren't actually banned for the match against us.
It's ridicilous how the prosecutor blames Moggi for these players getting yellow cards and says how these cards were given so Udinese would be weaken against us, when it's obvious why did they get the yellows and they actually played against us and weren't banned.

You got it right. Moggi is accused of having gotten those 3 players booked not to make them play against Juve, but truth is that none of them were a yellow away from suspension and they all have been fielded against us.
Jankulovski got th red for having punched another player on the face, hardly Moggi's fault. Not only! The one that proposed the red wasn't the ref (supposedly moggi's friend), but the linesman.

As for the Inzaghi thing, apart from the fact that he surely isn't one to be feared, that part in Italian I posted comes directly from the documents of the prosecutors, I just copied and pasted it. It says that Juventus-Sampdoria ended 1-0: too bad that the final result was 0-1 for them.
They didn't even check.

There's another interesting game. Lazio-Juventus.
Somewhere around 40 minute Lazio weren't given a penalty because the linesman Stagnoli told the main referee how that faul wasn't for penalty.
And now the prosecutors find this situation suspicious and claim the linesman helped Juve.
But not the linesman who said it's not offside ( Stagnoli). They say the other linesman ( Ambrosino) was the one who helped Juventus in this situation.

Exactly!

 

[Marc]

Wow! Isha now has a good competition is discriminating false accusations.....

 

[Belgico]

Would they punish juve again?

 

[Marc]

Juve will not be punished again.

 

[Belgico]

Juve will not be punished again.

Is Nice

 

[JuveGER]

You got it right. Moggi is accused of having gotten those 3 players booked not to make them play against Juve, but truth is that none of them were a yellow away from suspension and they all have been fielded against us.
Jankulovski got th red for having punched another player on the face, hardly Moggi's fault. Not only! The one that proposed the red wasn't the ref (supposedly moggi's friend), but the linesman.

As for the Inzaghi thing, apart from the fact that he surely isn't one to be feared, that part in Italian I posted comes directly from the documents of the prosecutors, I just copied and pasted it. It says that Juventus-Sampdoria ended 1-0: too bad that the final result was 0-1 for them.
They didn't even check.



Exactly!

I hope Moggis and our lawyers are studying these things carefully as well...

+rep