Morality and law (3 Viewers)
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elections are rigged. The last time a person ran for presidency against the current one he was prisoned. his name was Ayman Nour. We are in the middle east (north africa technically) we do not have the human rights you enjoy. We are not a democracy.
Public opinion has nothing to do with Government work. Things are getting better though but really slowly.. we now have less censorship than we used to (but still its pretty tight) .. they now leave us to speak out as long as its not really threatening the system.
TV, radio, newspapers, books, movies.. all censored. as i said its slightly getting better as we can now speak out more than we used to but either way no one listens.
80% of the movies i watch that involve religion, politics, homosexual rights etc. regardless of its nature (comedy or serious) are banned. I gotta download them through torrents to be able to watch them.
As for why i am an agnostic, thats a long talk..
Believe it or not i am not as dumb as my username here suggests. I am actually a philosophy & Business Marketing Double major at the best university in the entire region AUC.
If you want to go into a long discussion about religion, i wouldn't mind. Just ask
Public opinion has nothing to do with Government work. Things are getting better though but really slowly.. we now have less censorship than we used to (but still its pretty tight) .. they now leave us to speak out as long as its not really threatening the system.
TV, radio, newspapers, books, movies.. all censored. as i said its slightly getting better as we can now speak out more than we used to but either way no one listens.
80% of the movies i watch that involve religion, politics, homosexual rights etc. regardless of its nature (comedy or serious) are banned. I gotta download them through torrents to be able to watch them.
As for why i am an agnostic, thats a long talk..
Believe it or not i am not as dumb as my username here suggests. I am actually a philosophy & Business Marketing Double major at the best university in the entire region AUC.
If you want to go into a long discussion about religion, i wouldn't mind. Just ask
Welcome to the Middle East.
First things first, in a reasoned discussion theists never stick to reason, ever
When trying to prove something, say a law of thermodynamics, do you see somebody saying, Im open to the idea of it exsisting but I have yet to see enough evidence, no you do not.Whichever side has the most credible evidence is right, saying that both sides make valid point is ridiculous. I never said that Theists are unreasonalbe people, but they can't hold a reasoned discussion about theism, by the very nature of the word Theist.
the core rule is: you MUST prove, not disprove, everything is assumed false until proven or continuosly held up in sceintific tests (in the form of hypotheses). Fence sitting on a matter of the cocrete exsistance of something is just plain silly.
When trying to prove something, say a law of thermodynamics, do you see somebody saying, Im open to the idea of it exsisting but I have yet to see enough evidence, no you do not.Whichever side has the most credible evidence is right, saying that both sides make valid point is ridiculous. I never said that Theists are unreasonalbe people, but they can't hold a reasoned discussion about theism, by the very nature of the word Theist.
the core rule is: you MUST prove, not disprove, everything is assumed false until proven or continuosly held up in sceintific tests (in the form of hypotheses). Fence sitting on a matter of the cocrete exsistance of something is just plain silly.
You're mixing "reasonable" with reason. "reasonable" has a wider meaning. It means not only that which derives from reason, but also that which emanates from good manners and good will towards other people. You can be diplomatic with people, which will be perceived as "reasonable", without acting according to reason.
I am a tea-pot agnostic in the sense of my inability to make a judgment about the existence of something beyond our current grasp of science (note that i do not give the possibility of a super power's existence an equal probability of its none-existence... its not a 50/50... more of a 95% atheist, 5% agnostic) . I am atheist in the sense that i see deep flaws in the Abrahamic religions and i reject them. And i have remnants of agnosticism given our inability to make an absolutely certain judgment.
is this the kind of detail you wanna know? or rather the process of me leaving religion?
is this the kind of detail you wanna know? or rather the process of me leaving religion?