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Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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axlrose85 said:
lets put it this way.
you dont have any proof of the Qur'aan being written by man,and other people who belive in God dont have any proof of it being revealed on man by God.so stop trying to sound like you're CORRECT,because the chances of you being correct are equal to you being entirely mistaken.
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Look, axl, you can believe in whatever God you want to, but saying the Qu'ran was not written by man is disregarding all sense of logic. (And if God did exist, why would he bless us with a sense of logic that disregarded something like that?)

About the argument "you can't prove you're right either", I'll say just this:

God himself told me yesterday I was the greatest man EVER. He even told me I was his son. Then he went on about how I should start a new religion, but only after I've written down every word he dictates me.

I'm just as believable as The Prophet or Jesus to be frank. You can't prove I'm lying.
 

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Seven

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And come to think about it, I'll go really far in this one. I believe that no religion based on a book is worth believing. That's right, I spit on the beliefs of catholics, moslims and whoever truly believe in something written down by man. However, I support people who believe in the existence of God and try to fill their lives as they please. Being religious is a human reflex and a good one for all I care, but believing a book is fucked up.
 
Seven

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You know what.

I just might be God.

That's it, I've decided I'm God. Now obey me until you can prove I'm not God.

Fuck yourself in the ass, axlrose, I demand it!
 
Seven

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#129
Jun 25, 2003
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axlrose85 said:
what proof do you people have of the Qur'aan or Bible being written by man?
maybe you travelled back in time and you had a few drinks with a guy and he said "you know man,ive got nothing better to do..i know!.lets play a game.you write a book,and then ill write a book and then we'll give it a name,we'll write them for a girl called hollie.....and they'll be known as holy books..WOOHOO!!!"?

you people are putting forward a basless argument where you are trying to prove that the holy books were written by man,where in reality the chances of the holy books being written by man are equal to them being revealed upon man by God.and neither of these theories can be proved.so there is no definite answer.
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I'm not sure about this and I might be wrong, but didn't Mohammed admit he wrote the Qu'ran? I though he wrote it through divine inspiration, but did admit he actually wrote it himself when talking about the act itself.

The second part I highligthed is a LIE. The chances of it being written by man (which it 100% in a clinical way) are a billion minus one. The chances of it being written by man through divine inspiration are one in a billion. Not exactly equal if you ask me.
 
NEDVED

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Nov 16, 2003
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in this world, there are 2 theories concerning how it all started:
1) Creation theory (God)
2) Evolution theory

the first one we all know about very well, the second reveals that living things are all derived from bacteria which themselves were derived from amino acids that formed in the mid-ocean ridge in the atlantic ocean..

the evolution theory has some evidence for its truth, but however, its anyway a theory that one day could be proved wrong...

but lets take it this way, considering that the big bang theory is tue (the evolution theory), which is life started itself automatically by itself, then who created the simplest things, the atoms, the elements, oxygen, iron.... or even more, who created the electron and the nucleus...

these questions are still unanswered, and till now people donot have a 100% true answer about this issue...
 
Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
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Seven said:
And come to think about it, I'll go really far in this one. I believe that no religion based on a book is worth believing. That's right, I spit on the beliefs of catholics, moslims and whoever truly believe in something written down by man. However, I support people who believe in the existence of God and try to fill their lives as they please. Being religious is a human reflex and a good one for all I care, but believing a book is fucked up.
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you will go to hell seven ;)
 
Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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Maresca said:
you will go to hell seven ;)
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Looks like I don't believe in hell. And surely God won't punish someone who didn't realise what he was doing with the harshest sentence possible ;).
 
Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
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Seven said:
Looks like I don't believe in hell. And surely God won't punish someone who didn't realise what he was doing with the harshest sentence possible ;).
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sometimes I think that live is too short, so that it is better not to think deeply about religions and GOD. I mean nobody can prove what is wrong and what is right. There is somthing I noticed, In euorpe and (christian regions of the world) many of the people have their own vision of god and relligions, but in the islamic world, most of the people do not think about it even, they just belive in quran, god and his prophits. The reason for that may be the fact that islam is about 500 years younger than christian religion, and may be the next generations of moslems will start to thing about these things.
 
Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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Maresca said:
sometimes I think that live is too short, so that it is better not to think deeply about religions and GOD. I mean nobody can prove what is wrong and what is right. There is somthing I noticed, In euorpe and (christian regions of the world) many of the people have their own vision of god and relligions, but in the islamic world, most of the people do not think about it even, they just belive in quran, god and his prophits. The reason for that may be the fact that islam is about 500 years younger than christian religion, and may be the next generations of moslems will start to thing about these things.
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You got it right there. That's exactly what I believe.
 
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