Miloš Krasić (20 Viewers)

adriano_c

Senior Member
May 26, 2009
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Or is it a sign that the Serie-A have him all figured out?
They figured him out 2-3 games into his Serie A career. He was being double and even triple marked at times yet he was on hot form and it didn't matter. It's not as if he was doing anything unusually difficult or spectacular. His game was always, in the beginning at least, simple, direct, with exceptional pace and good positional sense with regard to where he could cut/drift in, stay wide, and so forth.

For whatever reason, he's in a slump. I think perhaps the latter half of last season can be attributed to fatigue, which is definitely reasonable considering his nonstop series of games. Speaking of which, he wasn't even that bad at the time. I think people are revising history a little bit here for the sake of hyperbole so they can claim he's "been shit for a year." Obviously he dipped last season but it probably seems more drastic when juxtaposed with the crazy level he was playing at earlier.

His bad form now, though? That's something to do with Conte. I'm sure of it. Clearly they don't mesh well. He seems to be having serious problems "getting" the instructions from the trainer. Let alone following them through. Combined with all this media frenzy surrounding him, negatively, it's had an adverse effect on his confidence and you can see it so obviously.

Anyway, we've seen two sides to him. Unstoppable and lost. A very good winger lies in the middle, somewhere. I see no reason to give up on the chance of recapturing that player especially in light of the Pepes and Giaccherinis that are the alternatives. Besides, he's not exactly a big issue when you consider the other problems in the squad that absolutely must be addressed before we start thinking of selling players that actually can contribute (now or a bit later).
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,110
adriano :tup:

You couldnt have said it any better. And I do agree with you when you say people are over exaggerating his "shit half of the season" last season. If memory serves me correctly, he still scored 2 or 3 post January and had a couple of assists. He clearly wasnt better than what he was from Aug-Dec, but he still contributed quite well.

I'd hold on to him, he is clearly a good player and one who can be effective to us once his form/confidence comes back and he gets used to Conte's system.
 

Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
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There actually isn't much exaggeration when some are saying Krasic has been bad for 12 months because he has been. In this time, Krasic has been rarely able to beat his marker, make an assist, or do anything that is remotely dangerous. Added to that he rarely comes back to help the defence, and when he does, you can see he's only there to pretend to be doing something, not actually putting in any serious effort to help out. Matri seems to help the defence out more.

Krasic has been below-par for quite a while and it reminds me of the way he played during the world cup, weak and clueless.

I would still give him until June before contemplating a sale though.
 

Byrone

Peen Meister
Dec 19, 2005
30,778
Put aside Krasic not performing for "12 months", why are some members insistent on highlighting Krasic's poor form & content with the likes of Pepe, Giaccherini & Estigarribia on the wings. Why are they so content with Bonucci & Barzagli marshalling the defence? Why are they content with DC being our number one LB when fit?

That's what you get when a player performs at his best & has a serious dip in form. Fans are fucking fickle & spoilt. I've been saying it & repeating myself like a parrot about this issue. It's all about prioritizing which positions need the most attention & with the short lived successful implementation of the 4-3-3 formation, Krasic shouldn't really be an issue. What Krasic needs is bench time(which he's getting), the media to get off his back with all the negative attention & some much needed time with the reserve team to build up confidence.
 

Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
16,022
Put aside Krasic not performing for "12 months", why are some members insistent on highlighting Krasic's poor form & content with the likes of Pepe, Giaccherini & Estigarribia on the wings. Why are they so content with Bonucci & Barzagli marshalling the defence? Why are they content with DC being our number one LB when fit?

That's what you get when a player performs at his best & has a serious dip in form. Fans are fucking fickle & spoilt. I've been saying it & repeating myself like a parrot about this issue. It's all about prioritizing which positions need the most attention & with the short lived successful implementation of the 4-3-3 formation, Krasic shouldn't really be an issue. What Krasic needs is bench time(which he's getting), the media to get off his back with all the negative attention & some much needed time with the reserve team to build up confidence.
Fan's have every right to bring up anything they like about their team on a fans forum.

PS: You must have one of the most retarded Avatar's on any forum worldwide
 

Byrone

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Dec 19, 2005
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Fan's have every right to bring up anything they like about their team on a fans forum.

PS: You must have one of the most retarded Avatar's on any forum worldwide
When did i say they didn't? Why focus on an issue that isn't as important as the ongoing defensive issue we've been experiencing for years now?

If you understand the context of that particular conversation, then you would love the avatar.:D
 

v1rtu4l

Senior Member
Mar 4, 2008
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They figured him out 2-3 games into his Serie A career. He was being double and even triple marked at times yet he was on hot form and it didn't matter. It's not as if he was doing anything unusually difficult or spectacular. His game was always, in the beginning at least, simple, direct, with exceptional pace and good positional sense with regard to where he could cut/drift in, stay wide, and so forth.
it's pretty simple to explain his "slump" of form... in the past (when "on form") krasic got the ball at the middle line of the pitch or in our own half and had acres of space behind the player he wanted to get past. its pretty easy to just play the ball 10 metres past the defender and chase it, because it was very far away from the goal line. in the new formation krasic gets the ball and the corner of the opponents box and has exactly the 12+ metres until the goal line to go past his man which does not fit his talents... in that small room someone with close ball control like estigarribia is more fitted to bring something to the table... thats also the reason why pepe does not get past his marker on the wing... it's just much more difficult to beat a marker without being able to have much space to go around a defender and without the skill of close ball control
 

RAVANELLI

it was all a dream
Jun 4, 2011
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Put aside Krasic not performing for "12 months", why are some members insistent on highlighting Krasic's poor form & content with the likes of Pepe, Giaccherini & Estigarribia on the wings. Why are they so content with Bonucci & Barzagli marshalling the defence? Why are they content with DC being our number one LB when fit?

That's what you get when a player performs at his best & has a serious dip in form. Fans are fucking fickle & spoilt. I've been saying it & repeating myself like a parrot about this issue. It's all about prioritizing which positions need the most attention & with the short lived successful implementation of the 4-3-3 formation, Krasic shouldn't really be an issue. What Krasic needs is bench time(which he's getting), the media to get off his back with all the negative attention & some much needed time with the reserve team to build up confidence.
Bonucci hasn't played much this season but when he does he's not bad, even last season.
Barzagli is having a great season, I don't know what the hell are you talking about here.
Pepe might not be the ideal winger, but that guy puts 110% in EVERY game he plays. He tries hard and when he loses possession he actually tries to get the ball back, something that Krasic seems too lazy to do.
and what about Giac and Esti? Do you really want us to judge them?
how many games have they played? how long have they been with us?
Krasic has been playing shit for a year, yes a whole year and it's only getting worse. You don't see that? fine. A lot of other fans and Conte sees it.

and please stop acting like you own this forum, members are entitled to have whatever opinion they have on any player.
Calling them fickle and spoilt because they don't agree with you is just lame.
Some think Krasic is shit, you think he's not bad. You don't have to repeat yourself like a parrot (your words) to force your opinion on us.
 

Nenz

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2008
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it's pretty simple to explain his "slump" of form... in the past (when "on form") krasic got the ball at the middle line of the pitch or in our own half and had acres of space behind the player he wanted to get past. its pretty easy to just play the ball 10 metres past the defender and chase it, because it was very far away from the goal line. in the new formation krasic gets the ball and the corner of the opponents box and has exactly the 12+ metres until the goal line to go past his man which does not fit his talents... in that small room someone with close ball control like estigarribia is more fitted to bring something to the table... thats also the reason why pepe does not get past his marker on the wing... it's just much more difficult to beat a marker without being able to have much space to go around a defender and without the skill of close ball control
I've been saying this for so long :tup: He also would drift into the middle or on the left. Now he stays strictly high up the byline. No space to run, less options to move and pass. He should be given a more free role playing deeper and be allowed to drift.
 

Byrone

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Dec 19, 2005
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Bonucci hasn't played much this season but when he does he's not bad, even last season.
Barzagli is having a great season, I don't know what the hell are you talking about here.
Pepe might not be the ideal winger, but that guy puts 110% in EVERY game he plays. He tries hard and when he loses possession he actually tries to get the ball back, something that Krasic seems too lazy to do.
and what about Giac and Esti? Do you really want us to judge them?
how many games have they played? how long have they been with us?
Krasic has been playing shit for a year, yes a whole year and it's only getting worse. You don't see that? fine. A lot of other fans and Conte sees it.

and please stop acting like you own this forum, members are entitled to have whatever opinion they have on any player.
Calling them fickle and spoilt because they don't agree with you is just lame.
Some think Krasic is shit, you think he's not bad. You don't have to repeat yourself like a parrot (your words) to force your opinion on us.
I love how you totally missed the entire point, but i've figured you out some time ago. When did I not recognize that Krasic hasn't been playing well? It's not my fault you're short sighted & can't recognize that we have more pressing issues at hand to fix, considering we're playing a 4-3-3 formation that doesn't require Krasic at this point in time.

Who made you the moral authority of the forum? It's kinda rich for you to make statements like that when you're trying to bark orders at me. You come off as some angry little boy with a major chip on his shoulder. It's funny that you think i'm forcing my opinion on all of you. What exactly are you doing right now?
 

RAVANELLI

it was all a dream
Jun 4, 2011
1,490
Put aside Krasic not performing for "12 months", why are some members insistent on highlighting Krasic's poor form & content with the likes of Pepe, Giaccherini & Estigarribia on the wings. Why are they so content with Bonucci & Barzagli marshalling the defence? Why are they content with DC being our number one LB when fit?

That's what you get when a player performs at his best & has a serious dip in form. Fans are fucking fickle & spoilt. I've been saying it & repeating myself like a parrot about this issue. It's all about prioritizing which positions need the most attention & with the short lived successful implementation of the 4-3-3 formation, Krasic shouldn't really be an issue. What Krasic needs is bench time(which he's getting), the media to get off his back with all the negative attention & some much needed time with the reserve team to build up confidence.
I love how you totally missed the entire point, but i've figured you out some time ago. When did I not recognize that Krasic hasn't been playing well? It's not my fault you're short sighted & can't recognize that we have more pressing issues at hand to fix, considering we're playing a 4-3-3 formation that doesn't require Krasic at this point in time.

Who made you the moral authority of the forum? It's kinda rich for you to make statements like that when you're trying to bark orders at me. You come off as some angry little boy with a major chip on his shoulder. It's funny that you think i'm forcing my opinion on all of you. What exactly are you doing right now?
I said "please stop acting like you own this forum", how is that barking orders exactly??

You were the one who seems angry and bitching about what members on this forum thought about the whole Krasic thing.
You want everybody to talk about the other players you mentioned and get off Krasic's back..
This is a Krasic thread. We talk about Krasic. Whether he is essential to the formation or not that's irrelevant.
and if Krasic was playing well like when he first joined us then I'm sure he would be a starter even in this 4-3-3 anyways.
So yes, Krasic's shitty form is indeed an issue.

For me, I don't see much of a 'pressing issue' with those other players you mentioned, at least they never been thought of a superstars like Milos.
He disappointed the fans and didn't live up to the expectations. While the others either already did, or it's still early to judge (Esti, Giac).
If I am or the other members "content" with their performances, and view Kracic as a bigger issue, then why you keep whining about it?
From the 1st post I quoted you wanted everyone to agree with you so badly it's pathetic.
 

Byrone

Peen Meister
Dec 19, 2005
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I said "please stop acting like you own this forum", how is that barking orders exactly??

You were the one who seems angry and bitching about what members on this forum thought about the whole Krasic thing.
You want everybody to talk about the other players you mentioned and get off Krasic's back..
This is a Krasic thread. We talk about Krasic. Whether he is essential to the formation or not that's irrelevant.
and if Krasic was playing well like when he first joined us then I'm sure he would be a starter even in this 4-3-3 anyways.
So yes, Krasic's shitty form is indeed an issue.

For me, I don't see much of a 'pressing issue' with those other players you mentioned, at least they never been thought of a superstars like Milos.
He disappointed the fans and didn't live up to the expectations. While the others either already did, or it's still early to judge (Esti, Giac).
If I am or the other members "content" with their performances, and view Kracic as a bigger issue, then why you keep whining about it?
From the 1st post I quoted you wanted everyone to agree with you so badly it's pathetic
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Angry no, annoyed yes. Because all i'm hearing is Krasic is shit, Krasic is shit. Not really offering anything useful to the conversation. I never said i didn't want people to only talk about players i mentioned & get off Krasic's back. If you read carefully instead of trying to suit it to your view, you'd notice that i said we need to focus on our defense which needs far more attention than an out of form Krasic.

Bonucci lived up to expectations? We bought him for a hefty fee, he played damn well for Bari before joining us & hasn't replicated that sort of form. Why don't you call for his head? Oh yes, he lived up tp expectations. As for the bolded part LOL, you were the same one that said this is a forum & people entitled to their opinion. Please make up your mind, stop changing things & putting words in my mouth to suit your obvious personal agenda with me.

And yes, i'm dying for everybody's approval & acknowledgement, fuck you're so observant.
 

RAVANELLI

it was all a dream
Jun 4, 2011
1,490
Angry no, annoyed yes. Because all i'm hearing is Krasic is shit, Krasic is shit. Not really offering anything useful to the conversation. I never said i didn't want people to only talk about players i mentioned & get off Krasic's back. If you read carefully instead of trying to suit it to your view, you'd notice that i said we need to focus on our defense which needs far more attention than an out of form Krasic.

Bonucci lived up to expectations? We bought him for a hefty fee, he played damn well for Bari before joining us & hasn't replicated that sort of form. Why don't you call for his head? Oh yes, he lived up tp expectations. As for the bolded part LOL, you were the same one that said this is a forum & people entitled to their opinion. Please make up your mind, stop changing things & putting words in my mouth to suit your obvious personal agenda with me.

And yes, i'm dying for everybody's approval & acknowledgement, fuck you're so observant.
Dude, you started complaining about what members here think (why aren't they talking about this, why aren't they talking about that player, why are they focusing on Krasic)
didn't you?
I am one of those members, so I responded to you. On the other hand, you described those members (including me) as "fucking fickle and spoilt".
I never tried to enforce my view of the issue on everyone like you did.

And what the fuck are you on about? "obvious personal agenda with me"??? :lol: Pahleez!
Who are you? some inflated ego you got there. :crazy:
 

Byrone

Peen Meister
Dec 19, 2005
30,778
Dude, you started complaining about what members here think (why aren't they talking about this, why aren't they talking about that player, why are they focusing on Krasic)
didn't you?
I am one of those members, so I responded to you. On the other hand, you described those members (including me) as "fucking fickle and spoilt".
I never tried to enforce my view of the issue on everyone like you did.

And what the fuck are you on about? "obvious personal agenda with me"??? :lol: Pahleez!
Who are you? some inflated ego you got there. :crazy:
Fuck you're a hypocrite, are you not complaining about what i think? Shouldn't i be entitled to my opinion as you politely put it? I'm a prick that wants to force his opinion on everybody else while you have everybody lining up to kiss your ass & agree with you. Yay!

Yes, fans are fickle & fucking spoilt. You lot forget too quickly how he gave up millions to join this team. You expect a player to never be out of form. You look to oust one of our better players in the team, totally forgetting that we have bigger issues to attend to along with worse player to offload.

Look at my username to find out who i am, DUH.
 

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