Military plans against irans 'nuclear' capabilities. (5 Viewers)

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    The only way to view this situation is 'I think you will find its more complicated than that'. I suppose iran being involved in weapons deals with israel during the lebanon civil during the embargo's against both countries has little relevance these days :shifty:....i guess they've never been supplied by Israel during the Iraq-Iran war.

    I want to put it bluntly again.

    No one is STUPID enough to launch nuclear weapons, its complete suicide...The only real risk is a nation state arming an NGO terrorist group. But again no one is that STUPID - except maybe pakistan, but if they do...its suicide.

    What goes on behind the scenes is really weird sometimes given the public views that countries hold.
     

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    And also, why would a nuclear power help another country become a nuclear power? It might seem logical now, but in 20-30 years that country might become Russia's enemy and if they're as crazy as Vinman thinks, they'll target Russia with the nukes.

    If I was a country and a nuclear power, I'd prefer if as few countries possible have nukes.
    Unless you believe that your nation can influence the nation you are giving nukes to.
     

    K.O.

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    No one is STUPID enough to launch nuclear weapons, its complete suicide...The only real risk is a nation state arming an NGO terrorist group. But again no one is that STUPID - except maybe pakistan, but if they do...its suicide.
    Iranian government is definitely much more stupid than Pakistan's.
     

    Vinman

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    its a pretty commonly known fact that China and Russia are helping Iran with their nuclear program, and everyone knows it isnt for energy, like Iran is stating

    Why do I refer to Russia as the Soviet Union ??? If you keep tabs on whats going on there, you would see that Putin and his cronies are doing what they can do to bring back Comminist-era policies
     

    Bjerknes

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    regardless of what anyone thinks, if Iran is successful at developing nuclear weapons (and they will with the help of the Soviet Union, China, North Korea, and even India), they WILL use them.

    They dont give a rats ass about their neighbors (they dont give a shit about their own people, ffs) they will use them in an attempt to take out Israel, and anyone else who stands in their way

    For the good of the world, take them out before they have the chance to take any other countries out
    Shalom.

    You go take them out, Vinni.

    And after you do, please move the homestead to Tel Aviv.

    L'hitraot.

    Israel, may thou place your mouth on my fat American cock. And then suck it a little. And then go straight to hell.
     

    Preet

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    its a pretty commonly known fact that China and Russia are helping Iran with their nuclear program, and everyone knows it isnt for energy, like Iran is stating

    Why do I refer to Russia as the Soviet Union ??? If you keep tabs on whats going on there, you would see that Putin and his cronies are doing what they can do to bring back Comminist-era policies
    yeah because you americans always have your facts straight, huh? the rest of the world is still waiting for those wmds in iraq, which was a commonly known fact as well.

    youre so eager to be a stereotypical american that shoots first and asks questions later.
     

    delrey

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    Every missile, weapon that Iran have is from Russia and China, so if they want it they would ''devolopt it''. If it from those countries, definitivly from Korea.
     
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    Every missile, weapon that Iran have is from Russia and China, so if they want it they would ''devolopt it''. If it from those countries, definitivly from Korea.
    And America and Israel.

    Korea doesnt even have the money to arm its own military with up date weapons or feed their own citizens - I dont see them arming a country that wont even use the nuke.

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    The reason the west don't want iran to have nukes is because it will allow them to play the same game as the rest of the nuclear powers.

    The only safe route for nuclear weapons is for sovereign states to proliferate and the UN hold onto them and then not build more when they go out of date. If no one had them this is no longer a problem.
     

    icemaη

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    Or start firing it in all directions and destroy the world. Finally we can have peace, when all life form is destroyed off the face of this earth :shifty:
     

    Preet

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    america should practice what they preach and get rid of their nuclear arms. then they can start acting all sanctimonious.
     

    delrey

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    And America and Israel.

    Korea doesnt even have the money to arm its own military with up date weapons or feed their own citizens - I dont see them arming a country that wont even use the nuke.
    Agree. They dont have up to date weapons. MiG-29 is most modern thing they have, but they have nuks.

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    The reason the west don't want iran to have nukes is because it will allow them to play the same game as the rest of the nuclear powers.

    The only safe route for nuclear weapons is for sovereign states to proliferate and the UN hold onto them and then not build more when they go out of date. If no one had them this is no longer a problem.
    Agree again, plus Iran is more and more inderpendent from inporting stuff, and the sanctions are inefficient.
     

    Tak!

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    The Iranian government much like most governments are stupid but as you're saying I could never imagine anyone being so stupid to use nuclear bombs. I have relatives in Iran and I hate to see what's going on and has been going on for the past forty years. I am very certain however that the government will sooner or later fall. And their fall will come from within so there is no reason for anyone outside to try and hasten this progress. We have already seen the first steps towards this. I'm not sure what they are developing but even if they were developing it I wouldn't worry about that.
     
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    Agree. They dont have up to date weapons. MiG-29 is most modern thing they have, but they have nuks.

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    Agree again, plus Iran is more and more inderpendent from inporting stuff, and the sanctions are inefficient.
    But they can't launch them, the don't have even a basic ICBM, if they did launch there limited stockpile it wouldn't hurt anyone and the rest of the world would instantly respond and destroy them. North Korea has very few friends and if they do something stupid - they wont stand up for them.

    I feel really bad for the people that live in North Korea, they have such a bad rap to the rest of the world when they live in poverty.

    Its the thing with Nuclear Weapon - MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) still exists and always will. Its the reason no one launched during the cold war (even though the came close a number of times), and the reason no country would launch today, its all about the balance of power around the world. Whilst i don't agree with the pan islamist - theocratic rule in Iran, they, if they can, should be allowed to hold the same bargaining chips that the dominant powers in the world have.
     

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