Milan are still better. (16 Viewers)
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Yeah, I did that comparison, and it was so ridiculous I wrote :LOL::LOL::LOL: Dida's just a prone-to-errors meathead
We're not talking about the final here, we're talking about overall, and when Zambrotta plays left-back, he rips everyone apart in both attack and defense.
I think you're wrong here...thank you for trying to please the crowd, but Maldini's far more reliable a defender.
I'd agree with you here, and it's hard to compare the players...sorry to all the Edgar lovers, but Seedorf can be quite deadly whereas Davids' shots are...crap :down:. Though in terms of DM, they don't get better than Edgar.
:LOL::LOL: That's the point...Rui can be useful when he's inspired, whereas Nedved is always inspiring the whole team with his fighting spirit.
As said before, Trez was injured for a good chunk of the season, and especially in terms of medium-long range shots, Trez is much better. Headers, I think they're pretty much even. Maybe I should put a player like Miccoli or Di Vaio in this category, as I think both Inzaghi and Trez are both lazy players who need too much support from their teammates, whereas the other two are very useful (DV not yet, but wait till next season
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We're not talking about the final here, we're talking about overall, and when Zambrotta plays left-back, he rips everyone apart in both attack and defense.
I think you're wrong here...thank you for trying to please the crowd, but Maldini's far more reliable a defender.
I'd agree with you here, and it's hard to compare the players...sorry to all the Edgar lovers, but Seedorf can be quite deadly whereas Davids' shots are...crap :down:. Though in terms of DM, they don't get better than Edgar.
:LOL::LOL: That's the point...Rui can be useful when he's inspired, whereas Nedved is always inspiring the whole team with his fighting spirit.
As said before, Trez was injured for a good chunk of the season, and especially in terms of medium-long range shots, Trez is much better. Headers, I think they're pretty much even. Maybe I should put a player like Miccoli or Di Vaio in this category, as I think both Inzaghi and Trez are both lazy players who need too much support from their teammates, whereas the other two are very useful (DV not yet, but wait till next season
)I sincerely hope our good owner Martin will not give me enough time to come to grasp the very core of your wisdom Mr. Sabertooth. In fact- rather than that I'd like to have my finger nails removed without anasthesia.
That should hurt less than seing Pippo mentioned as having R.v.N like class.
Much to my dismay however- I feel compelled to tell you that Juventus made the same kind of sweeping changes against Barca and Man.U as Milan did in their first game. It was our first too (Barca). Add to this that Lippi actually had new players to integrate whereas Milan was much more like the team of last year. Since it appears you're passing judgement on the back of our friendlies- I thought it only fair to grant you the same courtecy.
Your mention of a Juve 2-1 loss without a fit striker away at San Siro against Milan as some kind of testimony to Milan's big match ability (a game in which Dida, incidentally, was named 'man of the match'- sort of a pattern there sadly) speaks of your propensity to change any situation into a scenario that soothes your train of thought. Something you direly need of course, since you're claiming that Milan is just better than the team that beat you to Lo scudetto by 11 points. A team that has improved by leaps and bundles in the market, as opposed to Milan that just got older.
In any case- I hope that our exchanges will soon come to an ever more belated end, as your analytical contributions to this board is only too easy to overlook. I'm wondering though- if you have made your presence felt in either of the Milan forums on the net. Forums I frequent quite often like Devils Mania or MilanMania.. or even Xtratime?
If nothing else- it could be a learning process for you if I'm sure.
Best regards
Godspeed.
That should hurt less than seing Pippo mentioned as having R.v.N like class.
Much to my dismay however- I feel compelled to tell you that Juventus made the same kind of sweeping changes against Barca and Man.U as Milan did in their first game. It was our first too (Barca). Add to this that Lippi actually had new players to integrate whereas Milan was much more like the team of last year. Since it appears you're passing judgement on the back of our friendlies- I thought it only fair to grant you the same courtecy.
Your mention of a Juve 2-1 loss without a fit striker away at San Siro against Milan as some kind of testimony to Milan's big match ability (a game in which Dida, incidentally, was named 'man of the match'- sort of a pattern there sadly) speaks of your propensity to change any situation into a scenario that soothes your train of thought. Something you direly need of course, since you're claiming that Milan is just better than the team that beat you to Lo scudetto by 11 points. A team that has improved by leaps and bundles in the market, as opposed to Milan that just got older.
In any case- I hope that our exchanges will soon come to an ever more belated end, as your analytical contributions to this board is only too easy to overlook. I'm wondering though- if you have made your presence felt in either of the Milan forums on the net. Forums I frequent quite often like Devils Mania or MilanMania.. or even Xtratime?
If nothing else- it could be a learning process for you if I'm sure
.Best regards
Godspeed.
you'r talking about lucky and your words contrast your own words. you said that teams are in better condition in the start of the season and then you said you taught La Coruna a lesson. but that was also at the start of the season. when we beat you it was something like 10 games after the Serie started
and your words contrast your own words. you said that teams are in better condition in the start of the season and then you said you taught La Coruna a lesson. but that was also at the start of the season. when we beat you it was something like 10 games after the Serie startedTell me...how many times did Juve make a comeback to take the game at the death? Countless? Hmm thought so... I only remember Milan scoring about three (important) late goals in the whole season... now I know this is a narrow statistic, but I think one of the greatest measures of a team's character is the ability to dig in and not give up.
against Chievo, but the goal didn't make a single difference
against Udinese, but that was an own goal by Sensini
against Ajax
Now let's talk about Juve...
Chievo
Brescia
Bologna
Udinese
Perugia
Roma
Inter
Como
Parma
Deportivo
Barcelona
What a load of tripe... apart from the fact that Juve didn't know what to expect in the first game, but won it anyway...it's proposterous to say that these teams don't know eachother. They've had pretty much the same core players for several years now, and I'm pretty sure the coaches know the opposing team equally well, maybe even moreso with Ancelotti, for obvious reasons.
Yes...and Spanish newspapers are so objective and without bias.
Okay, now you're really contradicting yourself. As far as I can remember, so many of your arguments have said "you guys lost to this team, but Milan beat this team...Milan are invincible." Make up your mind...and I'll give you a hint while you're at it. When comparing football teams, it's not very useful to compare three games in a season, especially since the results were a win each and a draw.
:LOL::LOL::LOL: You mean 1 metre away from goal!?! I haven't got anything against Inzaghi, in fact he was one of the first Juve players I liked, but to compare them in terms of technical ability is an insult to Ruud.
You guys had one main goalscorer the whole season (Inzaghi), whereas we had several players who were banging them in.
Milan:
17 Inzaghi
9 Pirlo (mostly penalties)
5 Shevchenko
4 Seedorf
4 Rivaldo
Juve:
16 Del Piero
9 Trezeguet
9 Nedved
9 Miccoli (we've got him now :fero
9 Maresca ("" "" :fero
Apart from that, we scored 9 more goals than you in the season and conceded one lesss :thumb:
against Chievo, but the goal didn't make a single difference
against Udinese, but that was an own goal by Sensini
against Ajax
Now let's talk about Juve...
Chievo
Brescia
Bologna
Udinese
Perugia
Roma
Inter
Como
Parma
Deportivo
Barcelona
What a load of tripe... apart from the fact that Juve didn't know what to expect in the first game, but won it anyway...it's proposterous to say that these teams don't know eachother. They've had pretty much the same core players for several years now, and I'm pretty sure the coaches know the opposing team equally well, maybe even moreso with Ancelotti, for obvious reasons.
Yes...and Spanish newspapers are so objective and without bias.
Okay, now you're really contradicting yourself. As far as I can remember, so many of your arguments have said "you guys lost to this team, but Milan beat this team...Milan are invincible." Make up your mind...and I'll give you a hint while you're at it. When comparing football teams, it's not very useful to compare three games in a season, especially since the results were a win each and a draw.
:LOL::LOL::LOL: You mean 1 metre away from goal!?! I haven't got anything against Inzaghi, in fact he was one of the first Juve players I liked, but to compare them in terms of technical ability is an insult to Ruud.
You guys had one main goalscorer the whole season (Inzaghi), whereas we had several players who were banging them in.
Milan:
17 Inzaghi
9 Pirlo (mostly penalties)
5 Shevchenko
4 Seedorf
4 Rivaldo
Juve:
16 Del Piero
9 Trezeguet
9 Nedved
9 Miccoli (we've got him now :fero
9 Maresca ("" "" :fero
Apart from that, we scored 9 more goals than you in the season and conceded one lesss :thumb:
A milan fan to talk about controversial??? You were the team with the most penalties for and the least against in Serie A last year. Galianni was the president of FIGC, and your owner is the Prime Minister of Italy, and probably the most controversial italian. Your team was relegated because of match fixing. And you come here to talk about controversy??? :fero:
And I think Milans attack is overestimated, not underestimated. They won 4 of their 2nd Group Stage games in CL by 1-0, including 2 games against Lokomotiv, in one of which you only scored from the penalty spot.
Milan suffers of the Ancelotti syndrome, something Juve too had when Ancelotti was in charge. His teams tend to start the season briliantlly, but somwhere at the middle of the season they start to run out of steam, playing worse and worse. The same thing happent to Juve when we lost the Scudetto to Lazio a few seasons ago.
Milan suffers of the Ancelotti syndrome, something Juve too had when Ancelotti was in charge. His teams tend to start the season briliantlly, but somwhere at the middle of the season they start to run out of steam, playing worse and worse. The same thing happent to Juve when we lost the Scudetto to Lazio a few seasons ago.
...and if you look closely- Van Nistelrooy has always scored more than Pippo. Always contributed more, and is the better allround player. Who would you rather have in your side?
Of course they are. This entire US trip is noting but money in the bank. The players themselves talk about being on vacation. Obviously- a Juve vs Milan game has added spice, but I only brought up the issue because YOU passed judgement on Juve's ability on the back of our friendlies, whereas you wanted none of it when others mentioned Barca's victory. Intrinsically flawed logics on your part.
Neat . You will find more typo's I'm sure.
No- it's not digging deep. In my first reply in this tread where I tried to be reael nice with regards to you as a new user of the forum, I said that Juventus lacked depth last season. As such- Milan were STRONGER than us in that department. hence- it was a blow to Juventus that we had to start an important game with Trez and DP so far from matchfitness they couldn't be started, and DI Vaio + Salas fully out of the game because of injury. That's rather a lot.
It is of almost antrophological interest seing how you deduce the reasons for Dida's man of the match award. The journalists on location for the live telecast cast their votes, and he won it. Because of Juve's 'negative football' they chose to award... Milan's goalkeeper...? yeah. Nedved and Zalayeta compromised your endeavours alright, but unfortunately Dida was on the absolute top of his game which won you the match. I figure you didn't watch it?
Both of the goals were counterattacks thank you
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What's the point of this comment?
Admittedly neither of them scored in the final. Great point, but I thought you would have figured how the lack of service might have left them in a dark spot against admittedly the best central defence in the world? Missing one stiker is one thing. Missing 4 is another.
DP's had two assists in the Delle Alpi victory anyway, and apart from parma Milan is the team he's scored against the most. You're arguing like a pre-teen now, and I have a growing sensation you know it. Get in the game.
Oh- I thought everyone have been busy telling you how absurd your reasoning was/has been?
My condolences. I emphatize with you... although on second thought it seems you'd fit right in.
Va bene.
Of course they are. This entire US trip is noting but money in the bank. The players themselves talk about being on vacation. Obviously- a Juve vs Milan game has added spice, but I only brought up the issue because YOU passed judgement on Juve's ability on the back of our friendlies, whereas you wanted none of it when others mentioned Barca's victory. Intrinsically flawed logics on your part.
Neat
. You will find more typo's I'm sure.No- it's not digging deep. In my first reply in this tread where I tried to be reael nice with regards to you as a new user of the forum, I said that Juventus lacked depth last season. As such- Milan were STRONGER than us in that department. hence- it was a blow to Juventus that we had to start an important game with Trez and DP so far from matchfitness they couldn't be started, and DI Vaio + Salas fully out of the game because of injury. That's rather a lot.
It is of almost antrophological interest seing how you deduce the reasons for Dida's man of the match award. The journalists on location for the live telecast cast their votes, and he won it. Because of Juve's 'negative football' they chose to award... Milan's goalkeeper...? yeah. Nedved and Zalayeta compromised your endeavours alright, but unfortunately Dida was on the absolute top of his game which won you the match. I figure you didn't watch it?
Both of the goals were counterattacks thank you
.What's the point of this comment?
Admittedly neither of them scored in the final. Great point, but I thought you would have figured how the lack of service might have left them in a dark spot against admittedly the best central defence in the world? Missing one stiker is one thing. Missing 4 is another.
DP's had two assists in the Delle Alpi victory anyway, and apart from parma Milan is the team he's scored against the most. You're arguing like a pre-teen now, and I have a growing sensation you know it. Get in the game.
Oh- I thought everyone have been busy telling you how absurd your reasoning was/has been?
My condolences. I emphatize with you... although on second thought it seems you'd fit right in
.Va bene.
++ [ originally posted by Edgar Davids ] ++
you'r talking about lucky and your words contrast your own words. you said that teams are in better condition in the start of the season and then you said you taught La Coruna a lesson. but that was also at the start of the season. when we beat you it was something like 10 games after the Serie started
you'r talking about lucky
and your words contrast your own words. you said that teams are in better condition in the start of the season and then you said you taught La Coruna a lesson. but that was also at the start of the season. when we beat you it was something like 10 games after the Serie started
this guy say things,,,and later is saying the opposite. Speaks things that are too weak to prove his theory.
I definitely will stop to post, because im debating with someone that dont have any idea of what he is talking about.
"Because the second game was 20 games later and both teams supposedly must be in better shape".........man, there are a lot of factors that can change a game.
