Mike Brown/Ferguson riots (19 Viewers)

[Ocelot]

Honestly, Italy has been pretty much fucked by the EU with their immigration laws stating that an immigrating person is the responsibility of the country where he/she first sets foot on. Italy alone realistically can't support the vast number of immigrants coming to Lampedusa & Co. from northern Africa without serious spending (of course all in a time where extremely rigid austerity measures are imposed on them by the Troika), and the rest of the EU is happy not giving a fuck.

I mean seriously, the resulting conditions at the places where the immigrants are held, most before being sent back to their home country, are just fucking disgusting. It's truly shameful for a political complex such as the EU, which brands itself as the bastion of human rights and democracy to not only let such things happen, but create the conditions leading to it.

Similar situations of course also exist in Spain and Greece.

Frontex as a whole is revolting. A massive number of people coming from Africa by ship drowns everyday, and it's even illegal to rescue them from certain death. There are a couple of fisherman who are actually being persecuted for saving human life.

 

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[Hængebøffer]

I hope civilized part of the world, Russia and China will soon realize the threat these radical Jewish and white anglo-saxon people possess to world peace. Black and Yellow people are the reformist. They should be supported against extremist groups such as national guard. A military coup is the ideal solution. Mexican minority should be in power as that is the best way keep these radicals in check.

 

[Nzoric]

Thank you for that post, thought it would be a waste of time to type it out.

My problem with the Italians is that a lot of resentment is being pointed at the immigrants rather than Bruxelles and Berlin. How the hell can you look at people in the detainment camps and think "go home" , the conditions at the camps being preferable to them when compared to the places they left?

 

[Hængebøffer]

But ReBeL, there are people who hate cops as a whole no differently than there are people who hate blacks as a whole.

So we end up with morons who think a fair justice system is essentially one where everyone votes on someone's guilt or innocence with a Twitter hashtag while watching the evening news.

Who can blame them? Everything today is about numbers, so the police stopped doing what the police should do.

 

[Ocelot]

Thank you for that post, thought it would be a waste of time to type it out.

My problem with the Italians is that a lot of resentment is being pointed at the immigrants rather than Bruxelles and Berlin. How the hell can you look at people in the detainment camps and think "go home" , the conditions at the camps being preferable to them when compared to the places they left?

It's not that different to xenophobia and hate of migrants in general imo. They're the perfect scapegoats, and it's incredibly easy to abuse them for political gain. Not to mention that the people in power, who perhaps are more to blame for the situation, naturally have somewhat of an incentive to keep attention and resentment away from themselves.
A lot of people who experience hardship themselves often find it much more satisfying to hit down on someone in an even worse condition than them, than to work on improving their own. Gives them a much needed sense of importance and power when they feel they're in a dire lack both.

 

[Hængebøffer]

Thank you for that post, thought it would be a waste of time to type it out.

My problem with the Italians is that a lot of resentment is being pointed at the immigrants rather than Bruxelles and Berlin. How the hell can you look at people in the detainment camps and think "go home" , the conditions at the camps being preferable to them when compared to the places they left?

Two years ago Italy begged the EU for solidarity. The politicians up here said no no.

 

[Gerd]

In defense of Italy . They are not totally wrong about the situation , it's not that there are a lot of immigrants , it's mostly because a lot of them don't do shit all day . I am currently at padua (for college) and i myself dislike a lot of the illegal immigrants who are here and i have nothing to gain of it , it's not my money which is used to help them (since i don't pay taxes) . I divide immigrants in different categories , there are those for whom i have the utmost respect , students from other countries just like myself , legal immigrants who work , illegal immigrants who as soon as they come here try to find work to help themselves and than there is the problematic ones, the ones that just come to get a monthly payment and live without working and hanging out all day long with no intention to find work . I don't fucking care where you come from , you move your ass and try to find work . Some of them also get involved in dealing drug , robberies ect . I have seen this myself so I know what i am talking about .

As i said not all are the same , but i can understand where a lot of italians come from . Actually up to 10 years ago albanians were actually the bad guys here in italy , because after we changed regime there were a lot of immigrants who came in italy and a lot of us were just like the immigrants I mentioned above , they simply took our place .

 

[Valerio.]

Problem is that up to 1989 we had no immigrants. then east european started to come and then in the last 10-14 years africans flooted the place.

Till then our cities were nice, people could actually wander during the night with ease.
Scapegoats or not. Ask 10 people if they would send everyone to where they belong 9 would reply yes and just communists cnuts will say No.
Anyway riots are starting. With time and more people coming and ruining our country riots will just grow bigger.

I'd honestly use italian navy to repel anyone coming from Africa illegally. Retrieve our soldiers from all of those shitty "peace missions" (who are we to intevene in other country problems anyway? we ain't americans who use that excuse to steal resources so just feck it all) and organize a huge "goodbye".

Some people says differents pops bring cultural benefits.... welll from our thousands of years of history we could literally shit on anything that comes.
Sorry guys nothing personal but i stick with the " me in my home you in yours"
Specially cause those who ran cowardly are the worse a country can offer.

 

[ALC]

Valerio, you racist. I get illegal immigration but the world is turning into a melting pot and there's nothing wrong with that.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Immigrants you give them money and house and they shit on ur traditions and rights

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yes they loved him

indeed, and they still love him but you can't say it loud

 

[IliveForJuve]

Long live the immigrants.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Long live the immigrants.

they were not happy about them

 

[icemaη]

Look at where that got them.

 

[swag]

Everybody is an immigrant unless you're Ethiopian, really.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Everybody is an immigrant unless you're Ethiopian, really.

non-sense

 

[swag]

Absolute truth. There are people who want to kill others saying that this square patch of land was their historical god-given right, but they're just interlopers who stole it from its previous inhabitants.

Nobody owns land on earth. We're all renters.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Absolute truth. There are people who want to kill others saying that this square patch of land was their historical god-given right, but they're just interlopers who stole it from its previous inhabitants.

Nobody owns land on earth. We're all renters.

Even the natives here migrated from somewhere else.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Absolute truth. There are people who want to kill others saying that this square patch of land was their historical god-given right, but they're just interlopers who stole it from its previous inhabitants.

Nobody owns land on earth. We're all renters.

okay, and all our ancestors were rapists

 

[swag]

I remember the last time I was in Hawaii and got the whole feel-good speech about returning parts of Hawaii more to its Polynesian heritage. Well the Polynesians were invaders too.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

I remember the last time I was in Hawaii and got the whole feel-good speech about returning parts of Hawaii more to its Polynesian heritage. Well the Polynesians were invaders too.

and it was found out in the indians DNA that their ancestors are came from Europe, so actually there are no native americans cause technically they all are immigrants and since we know that the homo erectus were migrating from Africa to Europe than we all are nothing but the immigrants from africa