Michy Batshuayi- CF - Olympique de Marseille (29 Viewers)

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Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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Again, how The heck are we desparate when we have 2 starting strikers and one on the bench? How hard is it to find a 4th choice striker? It isn't. That's why we aren't desparate.
Dude, Zaza is 4th level striker. We will have trouble making him our prime attacking asset off the bench, Morata had 23 goals and assists combined in two seasons in a row.
 

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KB824

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Again, how The heck are we desparate when we have 2 starting strikers and one on the bench? How hard is it to find a 4th choice striker? It isn't. That's why we aren't desparate.
Are you insinuating that Morata was a 4th striker on the club last year? If anything, he was 2 A, just behind Mandzukic, as evidenced by the number of minutes. This isn't about simply adding another striker just to have 4. This is about replacing Morata with a player of at the very least, equal talent and value. IF this club wants to truly make that big step in Europe, you don't replace someone like Morata with some low grade 4th striker and move Zaza up the chain.
 

Nenz

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Apr 17, 2008
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Doesn't seem to have a great first touch. Reminds me of Zaza from what I've seen on the tube. Quick, physically imposing and takes his chances. With four top midfielders and Dybala behind him (4-3-1-2 with Pjanic in the hole), bomber types won't have trouble scoring. But why not aim higher? Would love some Ligue 1 buffs to shed some more light on him.
 

Post Ironic

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Doesn't seem to have a great first touch. Reminds me of Zaza from what I've seen on the tube. Quick, physically imposing and takes his chances. With four top midfielders and Dybala behind him (4-3-1-2 with Pjanic in the hole), bomber types won't have trouble scoring. But why not aim higher? Would love some Ligue 1 buffs to shed some more light on him.
He's more of a modern all-around forward than Zaza. Can pass quite well. Had 10 assists this last year. Zaza had 1 assist.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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Are you insinuating that Morata was a 4th striker on the club last year? If anything, he was 2 A, just behind Mandzukic, as evidenced by the number of minutes. This isn't about simply adding another striker just to have 4. This is about replacing Morata with a player of at the very least, equal talent and value. IF this club wants to truly make that big step in Europe, you don't replace someone like Morata with some low grade 4th striker and move Zaza up the chain.
dybala and Mario had a better partnership that kept morata on the bench more often and Zaza even more so. That might not have been the case if morata didn't have the injury issues he had in that case he and Mario might have flipped roles.

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And to clarify I didn't mean a 4th string level striker. Simply a 4th choice to choose from.

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So no I wasn't insinuating that

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Dude, Zaza is 4th level striker. We will have trouble making him our prime attacking asset off the bench, Morata had 23 goals and assists combined in two seasons in a row.
I said 4th choice not 4th level.
 

KB824

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dybala and Mario had a better partnership that kept morata on the bench more often and Zaza even more so. That might not have been the case if morata didn't have the injury issues he had in that case he and Mario might have flipped roles.

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And to clarify I didn't mean a 4th string level striker. Simply a 4th choice to choose from.

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So no I wasn't insinuating that

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I said 4th choice not 4th level.
But a 4th choice striker immediately leads just about anyone to assume that you are talking about, well, just that. A 4th choice level type of player. And those players are obviously much easier to find than someone to replace Morata's skillset, along with his youth. So, in my opinion, yes, it will be difficult to find an ADDITIONAL striker that has the qualities of Morata, especially at the cost of 30 million.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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#87
Your post doesn't make sense because we DON'T NEED a 4th choice striker. We have one, his name is Zaza. We need Morata replacement, heavy rotation starter quality player that will compete and eventually get Mandzukics spot, this will take substantial investment to replace Morata. So yeah we are in clear need to get it done, and can't just settle with another 4th choice striker being signed since the problem is Zaza is too limited to fighting for starting spot.
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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4th choice is really 2nd choice anyway because we're playing with 2 strikers at the same time :D

We basically need a vice-Dybala, if we can get someone like Morata who's capable of playing both SS and CF even better.
 

Post Ironic

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Your post doesn't make sense because we DON'T NEED a 4th choice striker. We have one, his name is Zaza. We need Morata replacement, heavy rotation starter quality player that will compete and eventually get Mandzukics spot, this will take substantial investment to replace Morata. So yeah we are in clear need to get it done, and can't just settle with another 4th choice striker being signed since the problem is Zaza is too limited to fighting for starting spot.
We actually need another all-around striker capable of covering both SS and CF spots. Someone who can create as well as finish. Morata was main rotation option for both Mandzu and Dybala. We can't just go out and get a traditional CF, no matter how good. We have both Mandzu and Zaza there, and no one to cover for or rotate with Dybala. That's what made Morata so very useful for us. Or second best forward partnership amusingly enough wasn't Dybala-Morata, it was Mandzu-Morata. We need another hybrid forward.

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4th choice is really 2nd choice anyway because we're playing with 2 strikers at the same time :D

We basically need a vice-Dybala, if we can get someone like Morata who's capable of playing both SS and CF even better.
:agree:
 

KB824

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We actually need another all-around striker capable of covering both SS and CF spots. Someone who can create as well as finish. Morata was main rotation option for both Mandzu and Dybala. We can't just go out and get a traditional CF, no matter how good. We have both Mandzu and Zaza there, and no one to cover for or rotate with Dybala. That's what made Morata so very useful for us. Or second best forward partnership amusingly enough wasn't Dybala-Morata, it was Mandzu-Morata. We need another hybrid forward.
Exactly, and they don't grow on trees.

The one name that comes to mind is Alexis Sanchez, but he is WAY too good to be a bench player.

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4th choice is really 2nd choice anyway because we're playing with 2 strikers at the same time :D

We basically need a vice-Dybala, if we can get someone like Morata who's capable of playing both SS and CF even better.
Where do you find them, though? That is the situation that we now have. We had Morata who had the size of a CF and the skills of a SS, although this may be the new thing, there aren't many out there like him.
 

Post Ironic

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Exactly, and they don't grow on trees.

The one name that comes to mind is Alexis Sanchez, but he is WAY too good to be a bench player.

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Where do you find them, though? That is the situation that we now have. We had Morata who had the size of a CF and the skills of a SS, although this may be the new thing, there aren't many out there like him.
That's why Gabriel Jesus is a very intriguing prospect. But so young...
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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Where do you find them, though? That is the situation that we now have. We had Morata who had the size of a CF and the skills of a SS, although this may be the new thing, there aren't many out there like him.
That is indeed the problem, and precisely why we shouldn't sell our other reliable backup, like you suggested in the Zaza thread :p
 

Nenz

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Apr 17, 2008
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Zaza isn't going to want to be 4th string
Zaza already said he wants to stay so he must be fine with his role at the club. He gets a good amount of opportunities for a 4th choice striker. There's always a good chance that someone gets injured and he'll be called upon as well. You'd take a chance on that in a team like Juve.
 
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