Michel Bastos - LW - Olympique Lyonnais (4 Viewers)

[Trequartista]

I prefer Vargas but Bastos would certainly be an excellent acquisition. He is a very good winger and can do lots of things. He has an excellent shot, can cross and can also take free kicks, which is always a good thing.

I don't want Juve to pay more than 15 M euros though.

 

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[Quetzalcoatl]

Yeah, the (rumoured) fee is the only thing bad about the deal.

 

[alvin_89er]

Okay signing. Nothing more.

plus he's not worth 15-17m. Right now we need a lot more than "ok" "average" players imo

 

[Powis]

 

[Trequartista]

Nice photoshop.

 

[Powis]

Nice photoshop.

Yes it is. You thought i tried to make a fool of you?

 

[Alex Belucci]

Bastos is not a great player IMO he's 28 and been average this season, and is not worth the reported 15-17million fee by any means. Vargas is even a better playerIMO. Bastos would be a pointless signing and a waste of 15-17million.

I agree with 50% of what you said. But if Vargas got no interest in joining Juve, it'll be very difficult. Bastos is experienced, at 28, I think he'll give his best for the next 3 years. His price, for his age 17m is too much. 15m, hmm okay we need to pay some money. If we are spending more than 100m this year, I prefer 3 to 5 top class players, Bastos is one of them.

Vargas, he is good. But there is this thing I feel about him that he doesn't like Juventus? I just don't know.

Bastos already relished his passion to play for Juventus, and that's something I like.

 

[adriano_c]

Stats comparison between Bastos and Vargas -

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/84895/michel-fernandes-bastos

10/11 - 35 starts, 9 goals, 6 assists
09/10 - 30 starts, 12 goals, 2 assists
08/09 - 35 starts, 14 goals, 11 assists

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/87145/juan-vargas

10/11 - 18 starts, 3 goals, 5 assists
09/10 - 37 starts, 7 goals, 10 assists
08/09 - 29 starts, 3 goals, 3 assists

 

[Alex Belucci]

Stats comparison between Bastos and Vargas

And Vargas is only 1 month younger than Bastos. Speaking about age.

If Vargas costs more than 20m. Forget about him, and buy Bastos for maximum 15m. Lyon must understand than Bastos will turn 28 in few months.

 

[Flamez]

I agree with 50% of what you said. But if Vargas got no interest in joining Juve, it'll be very difficult. Bastos is experienced, at 28, I think he'll give his best for the next 3 years. His price, for his age 17m is too much. 15m, hmm okay we need to pay some money. If we are spending more than 100m this year, I prefer 3 to 5 top class players, Bastos is one of them.

Vargas, he is good. But there is this thing I feel about him that he doesn't like Juventus? I just don't know.

Bastos already relished his passion to play for Juventus, and that's something I like.

Pirlo, Bastos and who? Beck? Ziegler?

 

[alvin_89er]

Stats comparison between Bastos and Vargas -

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/84895/michel-fernandes-bastos

10/11 - 35 starts, 9 goals, 6 assists
09/10 - 30 starts, 12 goals, 2 assists
08/09 - 35 starts, 14 goals, 11 assists

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/87145/juan-vargas

10/11 - 18 starts, 3 goals, 5 assists
09/10 - 37 starts, 7 goals, 10 assists
08/09 - 29 starts, 3 goals, 3 assists

In french league Fact he is'nt a special player, only one's in that league are Hazard, M'villa, Sakho, and possibly Cissokho, the rest are gash imo

 

[Trequartista]

And Vargas is only 1 month younger than Bastos. Speaking about age.

If Vargas costs more than 20m. Forget about him, and buy Bastos for maximum 15m. Lyon must understand than Bastos will turn 28 in few months.

Good offers would be:

Bastos for 15 M euros

or

Vargas for Martinez+8 M euros

 

[alvin_89er]

Pirlo, Bastos and who? Beck? Ziegler?

Exactly my point, those players are either average or past it. And won't even get you CL football. You would think some people might realize we finished 8th, and look for the quality rather than just average players

 

[alvin_89er]

Good offers would be:

Bastos for 15 M euros

or

Vargas for Martinez+8 M euros

Vargas deal IMO, plus you get rid of deadwood. Besides Vargas is better player

 

[Nedvěd]

In french league Fact he is'nt a special player, only one's in that league are Hazard, M'villa, Sakho, and possibly Cissokho, the rest are gash imo

Gamerio, Ayew, Lucho, Moussa Sissoko, Lisandro López, Gervinho and Heinze are far from being gash.

 

[Albo]

In french league Fact he is'nt a special player, only one's in that league are Hazard, M'villa, Sakho, and possibly Cissokho, the rest are gash imo

But @World Cup , Bastos wasn nice he played some good/great games for Brazil NT and he played there like LB .

 

[juve_ultra]

In french league Fact he is'nt a special player, only one's in that league are Hazard, M'villa, Sakho, and possibly Cissokho, the rest are gash imo

In case you missed it, SERIE A is a shit league these days with shit teams for the most part... and the likes of Bordeaux, Lille, Lyon, Marseille, PSG would probably run over this present Juve team with little fuss.

 

[juve.10]

I would have him over vargas

 

[Trequartista]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAG9wesNdO4&feature=related

I would have him over vargas

A youtube video is worth nothing in such a discussion. Vargas--->Bastos.

 

[Alen]

In french league Fact he is'nt a special player, only one's in that league are Hazard, M'villa, Sakho, and possibly Cissokho, the rest are gash imo

French league is a low scoring league and it's not due to the lack of quality. Scoring 20-22 goals in this league will almost surely guarantee you the topscorer trophy.
Think of all the great players who came from the French league in the last 10 years and check their record while they played there. Almost all of them scored or assisted more in the better leagues than they did in the French league. Like I said, it's a low scoring league.