Messi vs C.Ronaldo (18 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

Messi can't create by himself? You serious, D? Both stats and watching him prove otherwise.

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

creative as in vision of the game, he needs an anchorman behind him thats how he shines best. He cant dictate the game.

 

[Bjerknes]

Well, Ronaldo can't really dictate the game either when it comes to being the presence in midfield that controls the pace of play. It's always straight forward with the guy. Moreover, his presence does go missing in times of need, just like Messi would be if he was starved of the ball.

I'll give Ronaldo credit for imposing himself a bit more because of his speed and athleticism and spirit, but that doesn't necessarily make him the better player pound for pound. I do believe though that you're sort of mixing up adjectives here... Ronaldo would be the explosive player in my opinion while Messi would be the creative force. The former has more of a drive that I would call explosive.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

i never said he could, i was correcting bozi about messi. I love messi as a player but based on what i saw from both players i grudgingly admit c ronlado is the better overall player imo

 

[Bjerknes]

Difference of opinion, no worries.

 

[swag]

As a fan of the Portugal NT, however, CRon has been a liability way too often for these kinds of comparisons. There is just no excuse for why Portugal qualified only with his extended injury -- and were in complete jeopardy when he started.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

the comparison stands as messi has been even worse for argentina.

 

[only-juve]

the comparison stands as messi has been even worse for argentina.

Wasn't he the "main" reason Argentina won the gold medal in the Olympics ?!

 

[Nicholas]

Wasn't he the "main" reason Argentina won the gold medal in the Olympics ?!

I think 'D' was referring to there failure in the World Cup qualifiers, where they were very lucky to qualify.

 

[only-juve]

I think 'D' was referring to there failure in the World Cup qualifiers, where they were very lucky to qualify.

He should blame maradona's coaching methods for that more than anything else.

If maradona himself was playing in that team they'd likely struggle the same way....

 

[Nicholas]

Ronaldo should blame Quieroz then?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

If maradona himself was playing in that team they'd likely struggle the same way....

Sacrilege! then why didnt a "di maria" struggle, messi not only struggled but he was nowhere to be seen in most of the games.

Ronaldo should blame Quieroz then?

yep hate will blur judgement

 

[only-juve]

Ronaldo should blame Quieroz then?

IMO Quieroz is much better than maradona as a coach. In fact i don't even consider maradona as a coach. The guy is beyond horrible....

 

[Salvatore]

You can't have seen Portugal play under him. You'd seriously think Quieroz is one of the worst coaches out there (not quite as bad as Maradona though).

 

[Salvatore]

Sacrilege! then why didnt a "di maria" struggle, messi not only struggled but he was nowhere to be seen in most of the games.

From the games I saw, I disagree with this. It seemed as if everyone was passing the ball to Messi as if they were hoping and praying he would do something magical. He didn't execute a lot of chances but he was very involved I feel.

 

[only-juve]

You can't have seen Portugal play under him. You'd seriously think Quieroz is one of the worst coaches out there (not quite as bad as Maradona though).

I still consider Quieroz a poor coach but in comparison to maradona, he'd be a cappello...

 

[Nicholas]

Quieroz is no better, they guy practicly ruined Real Madrid and nearly ruined Portugal. In fairness to Maradonna his inclusion of certain players in the squad in the last few games actually got them qualified. He saw the faults and included different players and voila. Argentina will still be a force at the World Cup and I will bank on them progressing further than Portugal.

 

[only-juve]

Personally i'd be suprised if they go far in the world cup, they've been lucky with the draw for the group stage. I guess we'll see

 

[Bjerknes]

So Messi supposedly disappeared during a single qualifying campaign while Ronaldo did so as well. So what?

Throw out the World Cup qualifiers in this discussion because both players did't live up to their name.

 

[Fred]

Ronaldo didn't score one goal in the whole qualifying campaign. That is pretty bad.