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Post Ironic

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bought loan free whatever, he was brought here to be a staple and to fill the shoes of vidal. He did very good like i mentioned but u ignored, but he IS INJURY PRONE. That canot be ignored and is a BIG problem for a key starter. No matter how u look at it.

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For Benatia it could be okaish because he will be on the bench most games most likely, but Khedira is a starter, and we already have Marchisio out for the long haul and we dont know how much time it will take for him to recover, or even worst, he can pull an asamoah and get new injuries here and there which are not related to his actual one.

TLDR: We need to have available midfielders.
Khedira's first season here was a resounding success any way you look at it.

In 13/14 he played 1370 minutes. In 14/15 he played 621 minutes...

He upped that to 1922 minutes this past season, and every single injury, but the very first was minor... Things like strains, pulls, a minor flesh wound... He had 1 real injury, where he missed 9 games. 1 injury that made him miss 3 games, 1 at 2 games, and 4 at 1 game. Those are very minor knocks that with a player we are trying to build back up we were always going to be more careful with. This injury with Germany is another incredibly minor one. He's likely going to miss 1 game, and they seem to expect him back for the final, if they make it.

If Khedira builds on last season and continues improving his musculature and durability, fantastic. He's in line for a brilliant season. We clearly want one more top midfielder for rotation in the Starting XI because of Marchisio being injured. 4 top midfielders is perfect. Add Marchisio to the mix, and we have the best midfield depth in the world if we sign a player like Kante.

Khedira failed. You don't even understand how ridiculous that sounds. We got him free. He was brought here to work into the starting XI, and slowly become an integral part of this team over the course of the season. We knew from the start it would take some time to build him back into a durable player. And that slowly started to pay off through the latter stages of the season when he was hardly injured at all.

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Even comparing Benatia to Khedira and acting like he's been a long term injury prone player completely discredits everything you have to say about him. He hasn't been. In the slightest. 1 season does not make a player injury prone.

And this Rugani nonsense... :lol:

Rugani is 21. He'll get plenty of minutes in the best squad in Italy. Each season that will only increase. He's going nowhere. Obviously.
 

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Khedira's first season here was a resounding success any way you look at it.

In 13/14 he played 1370 minutes. In 14/15 he played 621 minutes...

He upped that to 1922 minutes this past season, and every single injury, but the very first was minor... Things like strains, pulls, a minor flesh wound... He had 1 real injury, where he missed 9 games. 1 injury that made him miss 3 games, 1 at 2 games, and 4 at 1 game. Those are very minor knocks that with a player we are trying to build back up we were always going to be more careful with. This injury with Germany is another incredibly minor one. He's likely going to miss 1 game, and they seem to expect him back for the final, if they make it.

If Khedira builds on last season and continues improving his musculature and durability, fantastic. He's in line for a brilliant season. We clearly want one more top midfielder for rotation in the Starting XI because of Marchisio being injured. 4 top midfielders is perfect. Add Marchisio to the mix, and we have the best midfield depth in the world if we sign a player like Kante.

Khedira failed. You don't even understand how ridiculous that sounds. We got him free. He was brought here to work into the starting XI, and slowly become an integral part of this team over the course of the season. We knew from the start it would take some time to build him back into a durable player. And that slowly started to pay off through the latter stages of the season when he was hardly injured at all.

Second.

Even comparing Benatia to Khedira and acting like he's been a long term injury prone player completely discredits everything you have to say about him. He hasn't been. In the slightest. 1 season does not make a player injury prone.

And this Rugani nonsense... :lol:

Rugani is 21. He'll get plenty of minutes in the best squad in Italy. Each season that will only increase. He's going nowhere. Obviously.
U said it urself.

key word: "If Khedira builds on last season and continues improving his musculature and durability, fantastic"... yeah it will be difficult for him to build on something since he has like 2 or 3 straight years being intermitent because on injuries.

I dont like to be hoping or gambling on him to have a fantastic year, when we have his stats in our faces about how much he likes to get sidelined, specially in midgames.

Sorry but im not buying this.

On Benatia, he could work as a benchwarmer.... but on Khedira, when he is such a key member... no fuking way. He can stay but we need a ready to go guy in his place when he goes injured.
 

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Benatia is also an aerial beast, especially defensively. His set-piece prowess is fantastic, one of the best defenders in the world that way, which will help our defensive line that often struggles with set piece defending. Only Chiellini is great with them.

He's also far more comfortable on ball than Barza and Chiellini. They are better defensively.. But in form Benatia is a beautiful thing to watch.

As Chiello is now 32, and Barza 35... A future backline of Benatia-Bonucci-Rugani is just so damn fapworthy.
 
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    Benatia is also an aerial beast, especially defensively. His set-piece prowess is fantastic, one of the best defenders in the world that way, which will help our defensive line that often struggles with set piece defending. Only Chiellini is great with them.

    He's also far more comfortable on ball than Barza and Chiellini. They are better defensively.. But in form Benatia is a beautiful thing to watch.

    As Chiello is now 32, and Barza 35... A future backline of Benatia-Bonucci-Rugani is just so damn fapworthy.
    Benatia is a massive defender. A bruiser and those are my favorite kinds of defenders ala Chiellini but much less clumsy. The guy can muscle you off the ball with ease and good luck going on a 1v1 aerial duel with him or full speed into a 50/50 ball.

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    Hydde

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    At least he will have a chance to recover here... not need to over use him as a starter because we have good starters and he will be here to back up at first, and then whatever happens. But my point is that Khedira is a direct starter and he is under much more stress. He will not spend some games on the bench liek Benatia...he will start every game and will get injured more sooner than later. All i ask is to have a back up as good as him or better, ready to go in just in case.
     

    Seven

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    U said it urself.

    key word: "If Khedira builds on last season and continues improving his musculature and durability, fantastic"... yeah it will be difficult for him to build on something since he has like 2 or 3 straight years being intermitent because on injuries.

    I dont like to be hoping or gambling on him to have a fantastic year, when we have his stats in our faces about how much he likes to get sidelined, specially in midgames.

    Sorry but im not buying this.

    On Benatia, he could work as a benchwarmer.... but on Khedira, when he is such a key member... no fuking way. He can stay but we need a ready to go guy in his place when he goes injured.
    It's not like Khedira is our only quality midfielder, but we'd need an extra man anyway as Marchisio is still going to be out for quite some time. But while I'm the first to admit that I never liked Khedira and was very sceptical, I think he did great this season. If it weren't for his injury v Italy, I'd trust him completely.



    Benatia is also an aerial beast, especially defensively. His set-piece prowess is fantastic, one of the best defenders in the world that way, which will help our defensive line that often struggles with set piece defending. Only Chiellini is great with them.

    He's also far more comfortable on ball than Barza and Chiellini. They are better defensively.. But in form Benatia is a beautiful thing to watch.

    As Chiello is now 32, and Barza 35... A future backline of Benatia-Bonucci-Rugani is just so damn fapworthy.
    If Benatia is injuryfree it would be. I hadn't read that it would be a loan with option to buy. That sounds okay to me.
     

    Hydde

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    It's not like Khedira is our only quality midfielder, but we'd need an extra man anyway as Marchisio is still going to be out for quite some time. But while I'm the first to admit that I never liked Khedira and was very sceptical, I think he did great this season. If it weren't for his injury v Italy, I'd trust him completely.
    yeah i have never say he is bad, in fact he did very well to balance our mdifield, but i dont trust his health. thats all.
     

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    U said it urself.

    key word: "If Khedira builds on last season and continues improving his musculature and durability, fantastic"... yeah it will be difficult for him to build on something since he has like 2 or 3 straight years being intermitent because on injuries.

    I dont like to be hoping or gambling on him to have a fantastic year, when we have his stats in our faces about how much he likes to get sidelined, specially in midgames.

    Sorry but im not buying this.

    On Benatia, he could work as a benchwarmer.... but on Khedira, when he is such a key member... no fuking way. He can stay but we need a ready to go guy in his place when he goes injured.
    How could Benatia work only as a benchwarmer? :rofl:

    He's a world class CB who was rarely injured before this past season. Only a benchwarmer. You're absurd. Beyond absurd.

    Not to mention, I clearly showed that Khedira played nearly triple the minutes he did his last season at Madrid. He's been slowly building back up durability since his ACL injury mid-way through the 2013-14 season which kept him out until the beginning of 14/15 and which is the source of his injury woes over the last couple seasons. Obviously it's working for Juventus, as he tripled his minutes from last year.

    By the way, before that ACL rupture, Khedira played over 3000 minutes in 5 straight seasons, and was not injury prone at all... And he's working his way back to that with the Juventus fitness staff, as shown by the massive increase in workload compared to 13/14 and 14/15.

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    Benatia is a massive defender. A bruiser and those are my favorite kinds of defenders ala Chiellini but much less clumsy. The guy can muscle you off the ball with ease and good luck going on a 1v1 aerial duel with him or full speed into a 50/50 ball.

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    :agree:

    Amazing signing if we get him on loan. Beppe really is the mercato god when it comes to stealing world class players for peanuts. :beppe:
     
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    :agree:

    Amazing signing if we get him on loan. Beppe really is the mercato god when it comes to stealing world class players for peanuts. :beppe:
    He is always one step ahead of all the other big clubs :D

    A year ago we got Coman for Free while Roma lost their best defender before that. He knew Roma would blow their money and now he used a player he got for free to get a discount on a WC defender. He robbed Roma without anyone even knowing it. He even used Pjanic's clause and they were powerless.

    Roma :lol:
     

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    He is always one step ahead of all the other big clubs :D

    A year ago we got Coman for Free while Roma lost their best defender before that. He knew Roma would blow their money and now he used a player he got for free to get a discount on a WC defender. He robbed Roma without anyone even knowing it. He even used Pjanic's clause and they were powerless.

    Roma :lol:
    Roma can't really help that though. They have to insert clauses like that, because they are a level below Juventus, Bayern, Real,... Players who go to Roma know Roma will pay less than Juve and they won't win any trophies either, so they want escape clauses if they play well.
     
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    Imagine being a Roma fan right now if we sign Benatia on a discount :lol:

    Milan if we sign DS on a discount :lol:

    Pjaca turns Napoli down for us :lol:

    All that's left is to screw Inter.

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    Roma can't really help that though. They have to insert clauses like that, because they are a level below Juventus, Bayern, Real,... Players who go to Roma know Roma will pay less than Juve and they won't win any trophies either, so they want escape clauses if they play well.
    :agree:

    Which makes it even sweeter.
     

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    The guy is proven in Serie A. He is coming for 2 million loan, and is even taking a pay cut. Hell, we only make it mandatory if he hits certain number which is rumored at 20. If this doesn't go well , we can stop him at 19. At same time we save the money, and invest it on other pressing areas like mid and a replacement for Morata.

    As for comparing him with other injury prone defenders, let him prove his worth and then we can decide.

    I can't see any fault in having him here. This is a wonderful opportunity.
     

    Badass J Elkann

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    for that kind of money i would've gone for Mustafi.
    considering valencia wanted 50+ mill for Andre Gomes I suspect mustafi would be of a similar range which we wont pay

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    Imagine being a Roma fan right now if we sign Benatia on a discount :lol:

    Milan if we sign DS on a discount :lol:

    Pjaca turns Napoli down for us :lol:

    All that's left is to screw Inter.

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    :agree:

    Which makes it even sweeter.
    So we need to sign Gabriel Jesus to complete the fuck over :D

    Then again it could get a lot worse for crapoli if we signed Cavani
     

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    The guy is proven in Serie A. He is coming for 2 million loan, and is even taking a pay cut. Hell, we only make it mandatory if he hits certain number which is rumored at 20. If this doesn't go well , we can stop him at 19. At same time we save the money, and invest it on other pressing areas like mid and a replacement for Morata.

    As for comparing him with other injury prone defenders, let him prove his worth and then we can decide.

    I can't see any fault in having him here. This is a wonderful opportunity.

    We can't do that, because we are Juventus.
     
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    When are people going to learn they can't judge a transfer until they get a season here under their belt. How is it even fair to do it otherwise?
     
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