Maurizio Sarri (78 Viewers)

[JCK]

I'm not privvy to how our training goes, but it's another thing that is going to be stunted when you have games so close together.

I am not sure either but how we play should reflect what practice on. Look at the crossing and shooting for instance

 

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[U Picciriddu]

Stop, this is just getting ridiculous now. Sarri isn't responsible for fitness.

It's a completely unique situation that no one could have predicted. Our squad wasn't built with global pandemic and packed schedule in mind. No one's was. We're literally using all the players we have, which isn't currently very many. Ramsey should be nowhere near the pitch right now, for example, but he is playing because Sarri has to rotate and try to get him fit. Demiral shouldn't be on the bench. Chiellini shouldn't have tried to play. Rabiot shouldn't be playing all these minutes, nor should Ronaldo. De Ligt shouldn't be playing with that shoulder injury. We've got three fit fullbacks for two positions. It's just how it is.

The only thing I blame Sarri for at this point is for not doing what a good Italian coach would do and closing out games. We've lost 7 points from winning positions in recent games, for one reason or another. That's unacceptable. His stubbornness and approach might work great when the going is good, but right now it's a handicap.

So other teams have done better, good for them. It's the same for everyone? Yes. We should all be suffering the same way? Nope. It all depends how individuals react and who the coach can choose from. That's opportunism, not any form of planning at all. All of a sudden a bunch of deadbeat teams are having a great end to the season, and the teams who were running away at the top are floundering like a bunch of idiots, and people are reacting as if all of this was planned or happening in a normal season.

The reason you judge on next season is because that is a fair marker, that is how football is played for the last 30 years - two games per week maximum, normal training, everyone gets to do their work. This is just a mess, it's horrible with or without the results. Why people are analysing things like this is a normal season is beyond me. I get the frustration but it's almost a joke to be talking about things in that way.

Completely agree on that part. Said it in my previous reply here, our approach is difficult, on fitness levels but also mentally. And there’s the part where we don’t kill of the games, as we continue attacking and in the end get really stretched. It doesn’t fit this club.

Most of our substitutes are expected to play in far lesser teams; Higuaín MLS, Matuidi will go to a mid-table team, Rugani the same, etc. I don’t want to blame Sarri on this part as he’s trying to rotate, but besides our staring 11 we really don’t have a lot. Most bench players are finished at this level.

Besides the fitness part there’s also the mental part. Players aren’t stupid. They’re facing the pressure of having to win practically every game, while playing a tactic that doesn’t suit them. Its easier for the opponents, as the season for a lot of teams is practically finished and besides that they don’t have to win while facing us - no pressure. I feel it’s a mix of the tiredness and the mental part as we seem very weak in both of them. Its Sarris job the take away that pressure, but as we know he’s more nervous than everyone at the club atm.

 

[juve123]

Sarri: "Inconsistency? Everyone is like that. Right now, it's hard to stay mentally focused and physically constant for 90 minutes."

 

[JuveJay]

what's the head coach's responsibility then? tactics, subs, and that's all?

who's responsible for fitness preparation?

He overseas all of it but in this situation it's not the best point to argue when most of it is going to be recovery. We can't act as if there is a regular fitness schedule in place. Before that it's the same old Juve with same number of injuries.

 

[juve123]

Sarri: "38 goals conceded? Even 12 penalties were against us, It's a number that the big teams do not usually suffer."

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Sarri: "We are not worried about the Champions League, For the moment, we remain focused on the league."

 

[JuveJay]

Ah, so he just draws x and os on the board and chews butts? His coaching stuff just sits there doing exactly nothing.
Come on, man. Fucking Pioli uses the same 13-14 players, I guess he masseuses each and every one of them and jogs over the country lol. Same for De Zerbi, and Gasp, and Gotti.
Can we borrow Gotti for a masseuses session?

Like I said, applying Team X to Juventus does not work. I suppose Lazio's fitness staff are also now terrible, or maybe it's Inzaghi's poor instruction. Covid-19 infected Lazio and Piedmont so maybe they've forgotten what they are doing since the restart. Obviously Lazio have a smaller squad but then Juve have a bigger squad with players still playing unfit. We do have a midfield with Ramsey, Rabiot, Khedira and Pjanic in it - note, Paratici.

It's all getting a bit silly now. But maybe in future we should completely abandon potential crocks just in case this happens again. I'm being serious.

 

[jukazem]

I blame the pitch

More legit excuse than fitness. It was funny to see the players trying to play that vertical passing "Sarriball" knowing that the ball was going to wobble and bounce unexpectedly. Made many players looked like they have really bad first touches.

 

[juve123]

Sarri:“Games are so strange after the lockdown, as the inertia changes so rapidly. We must learn the lessons of these fixtures and try to keep our shape.”

 

[JuveJay]

Doesnt every manager have assistants, which he brought with him, who handle fitness?

Of course yeah, we have a whole team of coaches, specialists, scientists, doctors. There will be plans made in consultancy with the head coach for the entire week or maybe two. Does Sarri plan this? I'm willing to bet he doesn't. What does he know about fitness or conditioning? He'll have his own coaches and they'll work with the club's team who often stay here through cycles of several coaching teams. The idea is that the players have the required fitness to play at the level he demands, which includes tempo and pressing.

It's not that the players don't understand it, he's been here for 12 months. Do they not want to do it? Seems unlikely. I think there are technical issues with both midfield and the imbalanced attack (directly this is Paratici's fault), but also the current environment is exposing those issues. Seems to me that they cannot do it. Our play is lethargic and disjointed.

 

[Boksic]

Sarri:“Games are so strange after the lockdown, as the inertia changes so rapidly. We must learn the lessons of these fixtures and try to keep our shape.”

At 61years old you would think he would have learnt that by now.

I can't work out if he is stubborn or just genuinely not that bright to realise that sometimes you need to adapt to close out a game.

 

[DAiDEViL]

I can't work out if he is stubborn or just genuinely not that bright to realise that sometimes you need to adapt to close out a game.

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Sarri: "Inconsistency? Everyone is like that..."

 

[kappa96]

Sarri: "Inconsistency? Everyone is like that. Right now, it's hard to stay mentally focused and physically constant for 90 minutes."

Cringe worthy.

BTW we have 5/15 points. Relegation form, right now.

 

[U Picciriddu]

At 61years old you would think he would have learnt that by now.

I can't work out if he is stubborn or just genuinely not that bright to realise that sometimes you need to adapt to close out a game.

I was happy when he started to play with 3 defenders vs Lazio, honestly don’t understand why he doesn’t do that more often.

Just kill the game Sarri ffs, we Italians are masters in it. Stick to your roots. He gets outsmarted every time.

 

[Boksic]

Cringe worthy.

BTW we have 5/15 points. Relegation form, right now.

9 wins in the last 19 games.

Dreadful for a club of this stature. We have continually gone backwards throughout the season. The early season form and slip ups of our rivals have hidden the issues.

 

[U Picciriddu]

Guys without trolls; do you think that he’ll get sacked?

 

[Elvin]

I blame the pitch

If we dont win against Sampdoria in our own turf , I blame the coach and all the players

If they really want it, they must win it

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The pitch was indeed awful.

 

[Boksic]

Guys without trolls; do you think that he’ll get sacked?

I've been wondering the same thing,

I thought the late CL and short preseason could go in his favour. But I think tonight was hugely significant as once again on his opportunity to win something he has blown it, for the 3rd time in a row.

The form (even pre lockdown) speaks for itself too. I think he will be sacked, Agnelli is watching the same games we are.

What do you think?

 

[Niku]

I hope is sacked. Man even with the worst and most boring matches on Allegri era were not this kind of such a thing.

 

[U Picciriddu]

I've been wondering the same thing,

I thought the late CL and short preseason could go in his favour. But I think tonight was hugely significant as once again on his opportunity to win something he has blown it, for the 3rd time in a row.

The form (even pre lockdown) speaks for itself too. I think he will be sacked, Agnelli is watching the same games we are.

What do you think?

It’s hard to not get carried away in the pessimism or optimism after a win or loss.

Overall if we evaluate the season there were some nice things, the revival of some players (Dybala, Cuadrado, Bonucci to a extend) and the CL group went really well. There have been a handful of nice matches aswel, but mostly against small teams

Besides that if you want to get the most out the qualities of a manager you have to give him more then 1 season. We know the Pep, Klopp, Sarri’s 3th season at Napoli arguments.

I think though that Agnelli, Paratici and Nedved know that Sarri was a gamble. The lack of trophies, different philosophy, stubbornness.

But you know when managing Bayern, PSG or Juventus the least they expect you to do is win the league. In the current state of the Serie A it isn’t a big accomplishment, although I think the league is getting stronger.

I think in your first year as manager you have to deliver something besides the Scudetto. He failed practically in al the big matches, we’ve only beaten Inter. Lazio missed like 9 players last week and of course the board knows it.

Then there were the other big games in the Coppa. Two games vs Milan that were awful and the final of course. The same could be said of the Supercoppa. Those trophies don’t value much, it’s usually no problem if we don’t succeed to win them, but having a new manager, who basically has a reputation for not winning trophies, I think Agnelli saw them as good tests to see if Sarri could stay for next season. Obviously he failed.

So overall there are 3 things in Sarri’s favor: his contract, preseason and the fact managers need more than a season. But having failed in the big games I’d be surprised if the board will continue to have faith in him. Everything will change if a miracle in CL will happen, but that’s not very likely (even reaching the QF is the minimum).

 

[Juventinoo]

Guys without trolls; do you think that he’ll get sacked?

only a humiliating defeat in CL ....

reality: I think AA will see this as an incomplete experiment and will support Sarri with players ...

Imagination: no good coaches available with low expenses... but either Poch or Allegri back ...the rest unattainable ....

we will not buy out a coach clause at the moment .... Sarri Stays, Allegri comback or hire Poch ...


if AA loves Allegri as said before and was against the decision to hire Sarri and firing Allegri ...

I think we have a chance here ...