Maurizio Sarri (45 Viewers)

Tolath

Junior Member
Jun 3, 2018
93
I didn't suggest that.
ah i see you suggest regardless of the result to switch manager in the summer.
For me depends how successful Sarri will be and what is available in the summer

Even last summer Sarri was not our first priority. but we didn't have a better option really

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Just no. We have the best team in the league, the best depth by far. There is not a single reason why we shouldn't win the league. We don't have to give up on one to win the other.
We don't give up anything but apparently sometime you gonna lose.
We have a lot of depth that's i still believe that we gonna win the Serie A this year. but even if we lose maybe will help us in the long run.Both Serie A and Juve

but i don't believe we gonna lose to Inter even with Conte as their manager.
 

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JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,382
I will think about the scenario when/if it happens. At the moment winning the CL seems impossible and losing the league, to inter in specific, feels disgusting.

That's why I would rather think about it at the time.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Personally my eyes were bleeding last year apart from that Atl Madr 2nd leg game
at least this year we have some moments that we are playing well i don't say i am satisfy with it yet

But i had low expectations when Sarri was appointed specially in the short run
Your eyes were bleeding all last year? We scored more, conceded far less... had more points. etc.

It’s fine to say your eyes bled over the last 4 months of the season. We played some awful football. But the first half of the season, even if we weren’t great, we were undoubtedly better than we’ve been this year so far.
 

Strickland

Senior Member
May 17, 2019
5,859
Your eyes were bleeding all last year? We scored more, conceded far less... had more points. etc.

It’s fine to say your eyes bled over the last 4 months of the season. We played some awful football. But the first half of the season, even if we weren’t great, we were undoubtedly better than we’ve been this year so far.
Yah, but the season overall left a bad taste, when people say last season, they remember the dull end not the exciting start, as Max used to say, season truly starts in March

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that's not a metric
The "smoking hobo" argument is even less a metric yet you still bore everyone with it
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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Yah, but the season overall left a bad taste, when people say last season, they remember the dull end not the exciting start, as Max used to say, season truly starts in March

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The "smoking hobo" argument is even less a metric yet you still bore everyone with it
there have been legitimate metrics posted in here, that you choose to ignore them is on you.
 

Strickland

Senior Member
May 17, 2019
5,859
smoking cancer ape is just an observation

number of points, goals scored and conceded is a metric that sarri brainlets haven't refuted yet
We peaked early last season and played effective footie in the less important part of the season absolutely crashing in the second part. Its easy - if we've already peaked under Sarri he's a downgrade, if our form picks up, he's an improvement over last season. Scudetto isnt awarded on round 20 or 21.
 

lgorTudor

Senior Member
Jan 15, 2015
32,951
We peaked early last season and played effective footie in the less important part of the season absolutely crashing in the second part. Its easy - if we've already peaked under Sarri he's a downgrade, if our form picks up, he's an improvement over last season. Scudetto isnt awarded on round 20 or 21.
Sarri already is falling apart mentally and physically and you build your case around that we suddenly might start peaking? GOOD LUCK
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Yah, but the season overall left a bad taste, when people say last season, they remember the dull end not the exciting start, as Max used to say, season truly starts in March

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The "smoking hobo" argument is even less a metric yet you still bore everyone with it
:tup:

I don’t disagree. What I disagree with is people saying we’ve improved on our team of the last two seasons as though we were just as bad through that entire period as the last 4 months of it. We’re miles behind the dominant form of 17-18 right now, and slightly behind the first 5 months of 18-19.

If we haven’t peaked yet, fantastic. If Sarri meets the expectation of domestic dominance, and CL competitiveness, I’ll be happy with the season come May.
 

Tolath

Junior Member
Jun 3, 2018
93
Chances created and Shots on goal are also important regarding what kind of football we play.

i didn't check that kind of numbers but we were awful last year the worst year with Allegri in charge.
Also something personal i cant stand Dybala to be on the bench and play with Matzukic and Berdadischi , no offense to them but i cant.
at least now Ronaldo and Dybala perform and our issue is the midfield that i have hope that they will perform as well that's what i saw when Pjanic,Bentacur and Rabiot started

overall is more fun watching Juve this year than last year for me and it will be even more fun if Matuidi didn't start so many games so far.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Chances created and Shots on goal are also important regarding what kind of football we play.

i didn't check that kind of numbers but we were awful last year the worst year with Allegri in charge.
Also something personal i cant stand Dybala to be on the bench and play with Matzukic and Berdadischi , no offense to them but i cant.
at least now Ronaldo and Dybala perform and our issue is the midfield that i have hope that they will perform as well that's what i saw when Pjanic,Bentacur and Rabiot started

overall is more fun watching Juve this year than last year for me and it will be even more fun if Matuidi didn't start so many games so far.
@il brutto already posted these stats that were favourites of the anti-Allegri crowd. We have less xGoals, more xGoals conceded, and far less xPoints than last year. Which means we are creating less good chances, and conceding more good chances, and scraping by to a worse degree.
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,469
Chances created and Shots on goal are also important regarding what kind of football we play.

i didn't check that kind of numbers but we were awful last year the worst year with Allegri in charge.
Also something personal i cant stand Dybala to be on the bench and play with Matzukic and Berdadischi , no offense to them but i cant.
at least now Ronaldo and Dybala perform and our issue is the midfield that i have hope that they will perform as well that's what i saw when Pjanic,Bentacur and Rabiot started

overall is more fun watching Juve this year than last year for me and it will be even more fun if Matuidi didn't start so many games so far.
Chances created are very hard to come by .
I actually looked at the shots in games in general and found out we have many more matches we have shot over 20 shots with sarri.
If those shots are useful, I don't know.
In general i will say that we probably have on average 2 shots more , but performance wise we still have matches where we have shot very poor. Also I checked only for this year and as we all know we won the title in March.
As everyone said we started our downward trend ,performance wise in middle to late February last year.
For whatever reason only Max and the players know.

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Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
80,969
Your eyes were bleeding all last year? We scored more, conceded far less... had more points. etc.

It’s fine to say your eyes bled over the last 4 months of the season. We played some awful football. But the first half of the season, even if we weren’t great, we were undoubtedly better than we’ve been this year so far.
We were great and played some fantastic football in the league and CL until the Man United loss.

Even as awful as we became last season, most of the truly awful performances were when we were knocked out of the CL and the Scudetto was basically wrapped up.

In the league this season, we’ve had one, I repeat ONE, fantastic game this season where we performed for 90 mins and that was against Inter back in October.

There’s a real chance of us losing the league to a Conte-lead Inter and I can’t think of anything more disgusting in terms of losing our long run of league dominance

Not even going to mention the CL because with this fool in charge, we have no chance against any half-decent team in a two leg tie.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,382
We were great and played some fantastic football in the league and CL until the Man United loss.

Even as awful as we became last season, most of the truly awful performances were when we were knocked out of the CL and the Scudetto was basically wrapped up.

In the league this season, we’ve had one, I repeat ONE, fantastic game this season where we performed for 90 mins and that was against Inter back in October.

There’s a real chance of us losing the league to a Conte-lead Inter and I can’t think of anything more disgusting in terms of losing our long run of league dominance

Not even going to mention the CL because with this fool in charge, we have no chance against any half-decent team in a two leg tie.
I don't think it's a coincidence that the loss to Union, our last good game last season, and Marotta announcing his departure were around the same time. Not saying that he had anything to do with the loss. The situation as I see it is friction between Allegri and the club when Marotta left.
 

JuelzSantana

Junior Member
Sep 28, 2017
416
I was positive to Sarri and the idea of playing a more attractive style of football but a goal difference of 19 after 21 games in the league is worrysome.

On the other hand, I think Allegri would have had the same problems result and playing wise. The players’ motivation just stagnated under him.

If the Sarri experiment fails, I don’t think the decision to part ways with Max was wrong but who we replaced him with. It’s still early though as we’re in all major competitions. Last year we also peaked too early, at least this relative slow start leaves huge room for improvement.
 

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