Match fixing (5 Viewers)
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Tim Parks in his book "A Season With Verona" tackled this question Ali...If we know that matches are fixed then it will loose all interest, if we know that all matches are not fixed then football is very exciting, however if we know that matches maybe fixed it would make it even more exciting.
All the analysis, debates, and controversy arise from the belief that matches might have been fixed, nobody is every 100% sure. If we were we won't have no analysis or debates
All the analysis, debates, and controversy arise from the belief that matches might have been fixed, nobody is every 100% sure. If we were we won't have no analysis or debates
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i feared you did
remember many years ago,there was something that caused me great distress, in fact it broke my heart. now it is burned harshly into my memory as a constant reminder of how "understandings" in football can leave a bitter taste in your mouth and leave you feeling jaded with football. all this when i was only 7 years of age.
it was the 1985-86 season and hearts were largely expected to struggle against relegation, after the first few games of the season it seemed like that prediction was fair. hearts fans had been through some extreme failure since the late 70's with the club suffering relegation,yo-yoing back and forth between the leagues and being a shadow of the once great club.
what was to follow was nothing short of miraculous.
led by the strong management of alex macdonald and with assistant sandy jardine,the jam tarts proceeded ona 27 match unbeaten run. surging to the top of the league and playing some good football, people were scepticle of how long hearts resurgance could last,yet it continued and people were forced to accept hearts as serious title contenders.
on the last day of the season it looked as though hearts had done enough to capture a first league title in years, 2 point ahead of celtic and with a superior goal difference only a loss from hearts away at dundee and a celtic rout of st mirren. most are worried about st mirren's likelyhood of putting up a fight but most brush it off....how likely is it that celtic will go away frm home and win at least 4-0??
seven minutes from the end of the game and dundee score....disaster, they get another goal......hearts unbeaten run is ended...but what likelyhood that celtic have scored 4?
and then the news filters through from love street, celtic have went to st mirren, won 5-0 and won the league. i seen grown men cry that day, sure hearts had their own destiny in their own hands and could/should have got a result at dens park. however, it was the manner of st mirrens capitulation to their close neighbours that really sticks in the throat.
i have seen many instances of "old firm bias" in this country, from gazza's winning goal in the league cup final when he could have taken someone's head off with his flying elbows, to far too many dodgy penalty decisions, but it is the events of the last day of the season 1986 that stick in my throat.
the unthinkable happened and it was many years before we were able to put that ghost to rest
it was the 1985-86 season and hearts were largely expected to struggle against relegation, after the first few games of the season it seemed like that prediction was fair. hearts fans had been through some extreme failure since the late 70's with the club suffering relegation,yo-yoing back and forth between the leagues and being a shadow of the once great club.
what was to follow was nothing short of miraculous.
led by the strong management of alex macdonald and with assistant sandy jardine,the jam tarts proceeded ona 27 match unbeaten run. surging to the top of the league and playing some good football, people were scepticle of how long hearts resurgance could last,yet it continued and people were forced to accept hearts as serious title contenders.
on the last day of the season it looked as though hearts had done enough to capture a first league title in years, 2 point ahead of celtic and with a superior goal difference only a loss from hearts away at dundee and a celtic rout of st mirren. most are worried about st mirren's likelyhood of putting up a fight but most brush it off....how likely is it that celtic will go away frm home and win at least 4-0??
seven minutes from the end of the game and dundee score....disaster, they get another goal......hearts unbeaten run is ended...but what likelyhood that celtic have scored 4?
and then the news filters through from love street, celtic have went to st mirren, won 5-0 and won the league. i seen grown men cry that day, sure hearts had their own destiny in their own hands and could/should have got a result at dens park. however, it was the manner of st mirrens capitulation to their close neighbours that really sticks in the throat.
i have seen many instances of "old firm bias" in this country, from gazza's winning goal in the league cup final when he could have taken someone's head off with his flying elbows, to far too many dodgy penalty decisions, but it is the events of the last day of the season 1986 that stick in my throat.
the unthinkable happened and it was many years before we were able to put that ghost to rest
Tim Parks in his book "A Season With Verona" tackled this question Ali...If we know that matches are fixed then it will loose all interest, if we know that all matches are not fixed then football is very exciting, however if we know that matches maybe fixed it would make it even more exciting.
All the analysis, debates, and controversy arise from the belief that matches might have been fixed, nobody is every 100% sure. If we were we won't have no analysis or debates
All the analysis, debates, and controversy arise from the belief that matches might have been fixed, nobody is every 100% sure. If we were we won't have no analysis or debates
highly debatable? Flying in two-footed, studs up, nowhere near the ball is a red card in most people's books. Not many people would understand this one, but there were some good Hansie Cronje jokes going school after that
Okay, maybe it wasn't studs up, and I agree that it could be seen as a harsh red, but then again... there's no point talking about that incident in a thread talking about match-fixing, considering this is the same match that the referee awarded a very questionable penalty in the last minute of extra time.
Besides, we all know that the severity of a foul should always be judged by the distance the fouled player rolls after hitting the floor, and Bresciano almost made it to the penalty spot
Thing is, it was a penalty by the rulebook, but Grosso obviously made a huge meal of it. That said, 4/5 fouls in the box go unpunished, simply because the standard of judgment is different when a foul occurs in the box. Something that would consitute a foul anywhere else on the pitch often isn't a foul when it happens in the penalty area.
Besides, we all know that the severity of a foul should always be judged by the distance the fouled player rolls after hitting the floor, and Bresciano almost made it to the penalty spot
Thing is, it was a penalty by the rulebook, but Grosso obviously made a huge meal of it. That said, 4/5 fouls in the box go unpunished, simply because the standard of judgment is different when a foul occurs in the box. Something that would consitute a foul anywhere else on the pitch often isn't a foul when it happens in the penalty area.