Massimiliano Allegri (268 Viewers)
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Look at these Sarri dicksucking phaggots jumping all over each other to throat his cancerous cock first. Cry some more about all the trophies Max won for us in his first stint here, soiboys.
So what you deduced from me challenging your dumb baseless overstatement was that I'm a Sarriboy? Explain this logic to me, oh enlightened one. I would love to understand what wisdom and mental gymnastics brought you to this fascinating conclusion based on what I just said.
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In that case we should ask ourselves whether top 4 is really in the best long term interests of this club.
Probably, those have forgotten/never seen what Juve was pre Farsopoli 2006
They are not.. though.. the percentage of consistent showing in Semi Finals/Finals is higher when you're playing good football that brings new fans constantly. And this is linked to below
This is the most important thing to survive..
We need a big chunk of new fans in a dying Serie A and football industry as a whole.
This will never happen by winning ugly..
Note:I fully understand the stance on the need to revolutionize football.
This is a great post. On spot.
@ social media movements the embodiment of delusion
They are selling a product (football, entertainment, player, values.. whatever that may be which attracted you to Juve) and we are the customers...
If the movement is hitting hard, they have no choice but to react.
This is not a movement to bring down government..
It is a movement in an entertainment industry..
It might pretty much be effective
I dont see Juve as performing/winning only in Italy.
I watched Juve since the WC94.. and we were the real madrid you see today in those years.
From 2000 till 2006... we were mostly stupid and not the strongest... then farsopoli came, and till this day, we have never really recovered the position we were in before 2006.
Also, CL as a competition was not as great before the 90s.
Serie A itself had bigger teams than CL.
I guess that winning Serie A was more important than winning CL back in the days. But that just me, probably..
Sorry.. bro.. but if you think winning EL this season will stop the other teams fan from saying this.. then you're wrong.. actually.. this will be like an adult telling another adult
"You had to play with the boys "EL" to win something. This is your real level"
So.. i would love us to win EL.. but that's just because we are in it anyway.
I watched Juve since the WC94.. and we were the real madrid you see today in those years.
From 2000 till 2006... we were mostly stupid and not the strongest... then farsopoli came, and till this day, we have never really recovered the position we were in before 2006.
Also, CL as a competition was not as great before the 90s.
Serie A itself had bigger teams than CL.
I guess that winning Serie A was more important than winning CL back in the days. But that just me, probably..
Sorry.. bro.. but if you think winning EL this season will stop the other teams fan from saying this.. then you're wrong.. actually.. this will be like an adult telling another adult
"You had to play with the boys "EL" to win something. This is your real level"
So.. i would love us to win EL.. but that's just because we are in it anyway.
Sure thing, bro. 2015-16 team didn’t play great football at all during its 25 match unbeaten run with Pogba, Dybala, Morty lighting it up. 2016-17 team didn’t play fantastic football at all while thrashing its CL knockout opponents on the way to the final, outscoring them 10-1. 17-18 team didn’t play great football while destroying Serie A with a +62 goal differential (86-24).
Ya know, maybe other people find dominant winning football fantastic through a variety of styles, rather than just myopically obsessing over one single style of high press all out attacking footie and calling everything else shit like some boring ass single-minded twat.
Ya know, maybe other people find dominant winning football fantastic through a variety of styles, rather than just myopically obsessing over one single style of high press all out attacking footie and calling everything else shit like some boring ass single-minded twat.
Yes.. for us, Juventino... fully agree
But doubt nuetrals share the same views..
You said we were popular to nuetrals due our champange football.. i guess not.. can be said for our football in 2014/15.
For the second part.. agree also
I find Zidane and Ancellotti football as entertaining, and I can't describe theirs as high pressing
But doubt nuetrals share the same views..
You said we were popular to nuetrals due our champange football.. i guess not.. can be said for our football in 2014/15.
For the second part.. agree also
I find Zidane and Ancellotti football as entertaining, and I can't describe theirs as high pressing
Who said “champagne football”? I said fantastic football. The well-balanced, dominant, winning football we played for 3-4 years under Allegri. Pretty obvious that lots of fans who aren’t pre-pubescent teens enjoy it. Just because you and dingus and maxi can only enjoy one single style of football… I mean c’mon. Talk about narrow-minded.
Well..
Let me delete champagne football and replace it with "fantastic" as you described it..
and being popular to nuetrals because of our balanced, strong football.
I think of it in a way..
"Let me watch Liverpool vs. Bayern cause Liverpool play some fantastic football"
And in reality.. it is like this
After the match finished..
I hear/read a lot about this game.. then i watch the highlight
Yeah.. that was some nice fantastic football from Liverpool since they won vs. the team i hate more between both
Let me delete champagne football and replace it with "fantastic" as you described it..
and being popular to nuetrals because of our balanced, strong football.
I think of it in a way..
"Let me watch Liverpool vs. Bayern cause Liverpool play some fantastic football"
And in reality.. it is like this
After the match finished..
I hear/read a lot about this game.. then i watch the highlight
Yeah.. that was some nice fantastic football from Liverpool since they won vs. the team i hate more between both
Love it when PI goes on his rant calling everyone twats, phaggots and what not, when he is asked to quality his statements. It sure helps keeping people away from questioning him again next time.
I think we played many great games and in others we grinded it out. But in CL during those years, when it got tough, it was mostly grinding it out and scraping by, besides some really good games.
Dortmund games, one game against Real and Barca each, stood out for me. But even in the good games against Barca and Real, it was very even and could easily have gone both ways. Same for the final against Barca!
To me personally, those were great seasons and due to CL record previously, somewhat above my expectations. But we had a killer team those years too with the best midfield + defense in the world arguably.
But from that and calling it FANTASTIC FOOTBALL!, not for me. I wouldnt know what to then call the football played occasionally by Real, Barca and Bayern, when they really are trashing teams in CL. That is called champagne football? Ok
I think we played many great games and in others we grinded it out. But in CL during those years, when it got tough, it was mostly grinding it out and scraping by, besides some really good games.
Dortmund games, one game against Real and Barca each, stood out for me. But even in the good games against Barca and Real, it was very even and could easily have gone both ways. Same for the final against Barca!
To me personally, those were great seasons and due to CL record previously, somewhat above my expectations. But we had a killer team those years too with the best midfield + defense in the world arguably.
But from that and calling it FANTASTIC FOOTBALL!, not for me. I wouldnt know what to then call the football played occasionally by Real, Barca and Bayern, when they really are trashing teams in CL. That is called champagne football? Ok
I don't think anyone particularly had a problem to see Allegro grinding it out or parking the bus in Europe. Because any sane fan understands there is talent/money gap with the rest of Europe so you have to figure out other ways to win.
It's Serie A where he was mostly criticized and rightly so when you have the most stacked squad in the league with 2x more the resources of the next best team.
He famously made a statement saying that 'if you want to watch good football, you better go to a circus'. Allegro radicals were sucking his salami back then for making that statement.
This arrogance and refusal to reform has ultimately led to his downfall and led to him being a shadow of a man he once was.
As for JJ being popular among neutrals between 2014-2018, I disagree. Most neutrals don't give a fuck about Serie A clubs or don't tune into watch Serie A games. It's simply unappealing all aspects considered and is getting worse by the day. It's good memories for us JJ fans but neutrals will share a completely different opinion. And who doesn't love an underdog. We were a resurgent team in Europe so no wonder some sections cheered for us.
Anyway, all things said, this is a systemic problem. Serie A as a product in general is very unappealing. Style of football has got a lot to do with it along with infrastructure. Not just JJ but Serie A as a whole needs to reform its football while keeping some old principles intact as well that made this a once great footballing nation.
It's Serie A where he was mostly criticized and rightly so when you have the most stacked squad in the league with 2x more the resources of the next best team.
He famously made a statement saying that 'if you want to watch good football, you better go to a circus'. Allegro radicals were sucking his salami back then for making that statement.
This arrogance and refusal to reform has ultimately led to his downfall and led to him being a shadow of a man he once was.
As for JJ being popular among neutrals between 2014-2018, I disagree. Most neutrals don't give a fuck about Serie A clubs or don't tune into watch Serie A games. It's simply unappealing all aspects considered and is getting worse by the day. It's good memories for us JJ fans but neutrals will share a completely different opinion. And who doesn't love an underdog. We were a resurgent team in Europe so no wonder some sections cheered for us.
Anyway, all things said, this is a systemic problem. Serie A as a product in general is very unappealing. Style of football has got a lot to do with it along with infrastructure. Not just JJ but Serie A as a whole needs to reform its football while keeping some old principles intact as well that made this a once great footballing nation.
It was never attractive football but we played like a team with confidence and fight not holding out for dear life nearly every single game. The only serious challenge in Serie A since the first Conte season was from Sarri's Napoli. Iirc we had a disastrous start to that season, but once we got going there was confidence we could catch up and we did. Yes it was slow tempo and not very offensive but we managed most games with confidence and Napoli always looked more nervous despite scoring freely.
None of this holds true for any of the "good runs" we've had this season or last. If anything we were confident that the 1-0 wins wont last because we played like shit every game and never looked like we were managing those games well or in control. One is a team that believes in itself and its approach and confidently manages games using that approach, the other is a team that doesnt believe and cannot apply that negative approach with any confidence at all.
None of this holds true for any of the "good runs" we've had this season or last. If anything we were confident that the 1-0 wins wont last because we played like shit every game and never looked like we were managing those games well or in control. One is a team that believes in itself and its approach and confidently manages games using that approach, the other is a team that doesnt believe and cannot apply that negative approach with any confidence at all.