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Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,043
The standings don't tell you the whole story. Besides we're talking about a league that has teams which are very inconsistent and have very low financial clout.

Our approach to the game these days is like a provincial team. Defending in your own half all through the season against poor quality teams is just unacceptable.

Won't say this is a great squad but Allegro has practically made up his mind that this is the only way he can get the team to play and achieve results.

This is where he has completely lost the plot. Even the few remaining top players in the team are being affected by his regressive tactics and gameplay.

The net result in the end is a big zero. This team can't defend 1-0's. You adapt, readjust tactics, reform gameplay to the players you've got, not the other way round.

We don't have the resources to give him 10 new players so the coach has to make the most of the available resources which Allegro has proven to be incapable of.

We need to kick him out before the market value of our young players drops even further and we end up having no money to finance our mercato's.
Its far too extreme take. I care about standings, as long as we win, we can park the entire team in our own half. The issue is lack of it lately. However, we are still in good position to qualify for the CL.

We are fortunate to have big enterprise worth of 100s of billions behind so we wont became irrelevant even if we dont improve in the next few seasons. We could go on forever basically until we hit it right eventually. Id hope its sooner rather than later though. Other teams in Italy dont have such resources so once we start winning again, it might as well be another 9 titles in a row. Patience is required in the meantime.
 

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
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Its far too extreme take. I care about standings, as long as we win, we can park the entire team in our own half. The issue is lack of it lately. However, we are still in good position to qualify for the CL.

We are fortunate to have big enterprise worth of 100s of billions behind so we wont became irrelevant even if we dont improve in the next few seasons. We could go on forever basically until we hit it right eventually. Id hope its sooner rather than later though. Other teams in Italy dont have such resources so once we start winning again, it might as well be another 9 titles in a row. Patience is required in the meantime.
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maxi

Senior Member
Aug 31, 2006
3,767
Rabiot's place is at stake? He's first choice in midfield, unquestionably, and he's going to leave at the end of the season.
Well it was at one point. But he is aware of how much he is hated by the fans, and this perception can damage his image. Even if he does want to leave at the end of the season, he needs to put an end to the idea that he is the hated donkey of Juventus if he wants respect and approval from other clubs.
 

DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
64,672
People shouldn't be falling for his antics off the pitch. He knows that he is held in extremely poor regard by the fans (bar the usual diehards); it's natural that he'll try to charm them with such comments. It's easy to sway a fan base back into your favour by telling them what they want to hear.

Rabiot is no different. He attempts to monopolise the post-game rage by being openly critical of referee decisions on social media, making jibes at the opponents e.t.c.. In doing so he acts as a voice for the fans. Doesn't mean that he genuinely cares about the club. He knows that his place is at stake and needs to regain some support.
Such bullshit.
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
35,005
Its far too extreme take. I care about standings, as long as we win, we can park the entire team in our own half. The issue is lack of it lately. However, we are still in good position to qualify for the CL.

We are fortunate to have big enterprise worth of 100s of billions behind so we wont became irrelevant even if we dont improve in the next few seasons. We could go on forever basically until we hit it right eventually. Id hope its sooner rather than later though. Other teams in Italy dont have such resources so once we start winning again, it might as well be another 9 titles in a row. Patience is required in the meantime.
Ugly brand of football with mediocre results isn't going to build that enterprise and make it profitable or at worst make it a stable business.

I don't know how many times it needs to be said. Winning and playing watchable football are not mutually exclusive.

If this billion dollar enterprise intends to grow it's business by attracting more customers/be more appealing to the fans, it needs to evolve. Playing good, progressive football is a huge step towards that. Just like every other huge footballing institution who by the way ALSO have a motto of 'winning is everything'. Because they are smart enough to realize playing progressive football helps win trophies.

A concept that flies over radicalists' heads. But it seems you want to be stuck in the 19th century like your mullah Allegro.
 

Juve FC

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2016
581
Ugly brand of football with mediocre results isn't going to build that enterprise and make it profitable or at worst make it a stable business.

I don't know how many times it needs to be said. Winning and playing watchable football are not mutually exclusive.

If this billion dollar enterprise intends to grow it's business by attracting more customers/be more appealing to the fans, it needs to evolve. Playing good, progressive football is a huge step towards that. Just like every other huge footballing institution who by the way ALSO have a motto of 'winning is everything'. Because they are smart enough to realize playing progressive football helps win trophies.

A concept that flies over radicalists' heads. But it seems you want to be stuck in the 19th century like your mullah Allegro.
And this isn't only a football thing. Same has happened in the NFL and NBA. "Defence wins championships" is outdated.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,043
Ugly brand of football with mediocre results isn't going to build that enterprise and make it profitable or at worst make it a stable business.

I don't know how many times it needs to be said. Winning and playing watchable football are not mutually exclusive.

If this billion dollar enterprise intends to grow it's business by attracting more customers/be more appealing to the fans, it needs to evolve. Playing good, progressive football is a huge step towards that. Just like every other huge footballing institution who by the way ALSO have a motto of 'winning is everything'. Because they are smart enough to realize playing progressive football helps win trophies.

A concept that flies over radicalists' heads. But it seems you want to be stuck in the 19th century like your mullah Allegro.
Radicalists :lol: It is not mutually exclusive but we dont need to/cannot play champagne football if we dont have players for it. Winning is the only thing that matters here. Juve of old would grind the teams down, even when we had WC players like Zidane, Nedved, Pirlo we would often sit back in some parts of the games. It is about creating and producing when you are in possesion. One of my fav matches was 2002/03 CL semis vs Real. Only 33% possession but we played them off the park. The issue is we create shit, cant defend properly as our defense doesnt have leaders like Chiellini, Barza or even old Bonucci or if we go further back, Montero, Ferrara, Iuliano. Our goalie is not of the standard we use to have here, our FBs are old, error prone. I cant pin this chaos on 1 person. It was multitude of fuckups in recent years that brought us here. If it makes you feel better to blame Allegri for every defeat, draw, or crappy game go ahead.
 
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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,120
We’ve been sitting back for the vast majority of the year. Actually, make it two years. We didn’t even start a natural striker in the loss to Inter, which was must win. But the answer to our problems is to sit back more and have even less possession?

Just listen to yourselves. Do you even know what fucking planet you’re on?
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,043
We’ve been sitting back for the vast majority of the year. Actually, make it two years. We didn’t even start a natural striker in the loss to Inter, which was must win. But the answer to our problems is to sit back more and have even less possession?

Just listen to yourselves. Do you even know what fucking planet you’re on?
Do you even watch matches? How many games you actually saw back in the old days? Its some wierd nostalgia from some people.

Try listening to yourself or reading the drivel you post in Mckennie's thread. How fucked up is that, that you adore someone who is barely a football player?
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,120
Do you even watch matches? How many games you actually saw back in the old days? Its some wierd nostalgia from some people.

Try listening to yourself or reading the drivel you post in Mckennie's thread. How fucked up is that, that you adore someone who is barely a football player?
I became a fan in the 90’s watching Baggio and Del Piero. You can check my join date on the forum when I became a member here. Under Lippi we never looked as clueless as we do today, plus we got results with a more balanced system. What we see today under the anti-coach is the worst of the worst from the 90’s, clearly outdated, and definitely not bringing us results.

And McKennie was the first name on the team sheet when he was here, playing all sorts of positions, which even I thought was pretty funny considering his form.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
The standings don't tell you the whole story. Besides we're talking about a league that has teams which are very inconsistent and have very low financial clout.

Our approach to the game these days is like a provincial team. Defending in your own half all through the season against poor quality teams is just unacceptable.

Won't say this is a great squad but Allegro has practically made up his mind that this is the only way he can get the team to play and achieve results.

This is where he has completely lost the plot. Even the few remaining top players in the team are being affected by his regressive tactics and gameplay.

The net result in the end is a big zero. This team can't defend 1-0's. You adapt, readjust tactics, reform gameplay to the players you've got, not the other way round.

We don't have the resources to give him 10 new players so the coach has to make the most of the available resources which Allegro has proven to be incapable of.

We need to kick him out before the market value of our young players drops even further and we end up having no money to finance our mercato's.
if sarri or pirlo had played no striker in an important game vs inter i wonder if throaters would have been as forgiving.

no wait they would have lost their minds at "loser" mentality. but allegri gets free pass cuz "defensive masterpiece"
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,987
Allegri: “When I returned, I knew it would be difficult to win again right away, last year we lost two finals, this year we have raised many young players. It always depends from which perspective you judge the seasons.We need patience to start the winning cycle."
This idiot has no shame.

IM starting to think that he is mentally ill for real.

What a disgrace
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
35,005
Radicalists :lol: It is not mutually exclusive but we dont need to/cannot play champagne football if we dont have players for it.
Stopping reading after this. Is it always black or white for you Allegro radicals?

Ffs we are parking the bus AT HOME against the likes of Verona and Salernitana. We have a squad that costs 4x more than the minions of Serie A. We have recruited some of the best talents in the league. Stop clowning yourself.

At some point, this strategy of defending deep and scoring off that odd one or two chances was going to fail because to win matches, you need to create more chances. To create more chances, you need to play more direct.

Allegro is burying this club with his defensive disasterclass. Anyone still defending this terrorist have no shame.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,987
Stopping reading after this. Is it always black or white for you Allegro radicals?

Ffs we are parking the bus AT HOME against the likes of Verona and Salernitana. We have a squad that costs 4x more than the minions of Serie A. We have recruited some of the best talents in the league. Stop clowning yourself.

At some point, this strategy of defending deep and scoring off that odd one or two chances was going to fail because to win matches, you need to create more chances. To create more chances, you need to play more direct.

Allegro is burying this club with his defensive disasterclass. Anyone still defending this terrorist have no shame.
Dont lose your time. He is almost a chat gpt bot.

Theres no way a human being would be spilling this kind of gibberish with a straight face. Allegri is inexcusable at this point. Totally
 

venus_isle

Senior Member
Sep 23, 2010
1,024
Heres the thing..

People defending allegri and his brand of football... the reality is we are not even winning. Period.

If these people say winning is the only thing matters.. then i dont understand why they are still defending allegri and its shitty brand of football while we are not winning shit

And its been 2 seasons ffs
 

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