Thank you klopp throater I hope Liverpool are not paying you for defending them so passionately.
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Pointing out Klopp is better than Allegri is hardly throating. And Liverpool can get relegated for all I care. But I see your posts, you're that guy who can't help but go against the general consensus. You're cool, we get it. You see things at a higher level.
3 points in the CL isn't a failure, we just can't see the 4d chess happening behind the scenes.
3 points in the CL isn't a failure, we just can't see the 4d chess happening behind the scenes.
Klopp ass licker right here.
Dude is in 8th place right now, behind teams with massively inferior budgets. Aston Villa, Brighton, Spurs. Suck his dick a little more bro.
Dude is in 8th place right now, behind teams with massively inferior budgets. Aston Villa, Brighton, Spurs. Suck his dick a little more bro.
So since the recent past doesn't matter, will you agree that Allegri is shit at his job after an embarrassing CL campaign and bringing us down to the 3rd/4th best club in Italy?
Everyone thinks Max should be fired for his current time here. We don’t need revisionist nonsense about how he always sucked from the special ones like Dino MK, Dingus, Maxi, Hydde, etc.
And denying that Klopp is also having an awful season after spending €175 mil in the transfer market is just dumb. No one is saying he’s always been a bad manager lol
And denying that Klopp is also having an awful season after spending €175 mil in the transfer market is just dumb. No one is saying he’s always been a bad manager lol
Allegro wanted to resign along with the board but Elkann stopped him
Let's not portray him like a hero here.
I would be grateful if he manages to win the EL but this Allegro-JJ facade needs to end soon.
Sick and tired of this garbage anti-football. Fuck spending another season watching JJ put 10 men behind the ball against the minions of Serie A.
Let's not portray him like a hero here.
I would be grateful if he manages to win the EL but this Allegro-JJ facade needs to end soon.
Sick and tired of this garbage anti-football. Fuck spending another season watching JJ put 10 men behind the ball against the minions of Serie A.
cl is a lottery though. and allegri initially didn't even have an expensive team. wanna check how expensive was the one that progressed to a cl final against real madrid? that was a lyon beating city, villarreal beating bayern kinda upset. we also had inferior budgets to all clubs that beat us in the cl before ajax, that rarely happens throughout 4 years
again, allegri's first 4 years was basically flawless
also, klopp wanted fabinho who's an excellent player and in his prime would have fit in most teams. in england it's the coach who makes the mercato decisions, of course klopp had a team just like he wanted. allegri never was in a similar position. not that i'd let him do the mercato now, paredes is a big enough red flag lol, my point is that these rhetorical questions don't make too much sense. klopp won with a klopp team. imagine klopp beating real with sturaro, or scoring 3 vs atleti with emre can or bernardeschi
before someone deliberately misunderstands above point: i'm not saying that klopp is a bad coach, in fact he's elite obviously. not necessarily a good fit for juventus, still a very good coach and he built a winning team on his own. but this year neither his team nor himself aren't doing well enough. so what, shit happens in football
and an other thing we ignored so far: let's not forget that every team that won the cl since mourinho's porto had a higher budget than juve. weird to suggest that since allegri never won the cl, he's automatically a bad coach. his first juve punched above their weight in the cl for 4 years, nobody could realistically expect that team to win the whole thing
so yeah, we have every right to laugh at city and psg. they spent shit load of money without winning the cl. with their resources and the backbone of last decade's team we would have won it already. we have every right to ridicule chelsea too, they spent as much as we do in 5 seasons, fired a good coach, brought in the flavor of the month, and became worse than ever.
obviously that doesn't mean that we shouldn't improve. we absolutely should do better. most of our signigs aren't working, we stopped dominating the league, we are out of the 10 best european clubs (allegri the shitfaced fraud as some ungrateful fucks call him made us number 3 lol), we spent hundreds of millions on mediocre at best players, we overpay our coach who's doing a terrible job, we do not have quick players, the physical condition of the squad is ridiculous, i could go on for days. most criticism is warranted. but we shouldn't ignore what other teams are fucking up. we can have a good laugh, and let's hope we'll have a management that learns from the mistakes jj and other clubs have been doing.
again, allegri's first 4 years was basically flawless
also, klopp wanted fabinho who's an excellent player and in his prime would have fit in most teams. in england it's the coach who makes the mercato decisions, of course klopp had a team just like he wanted. allegri never was in a similar position. not that i'd let him do the mercato now, paredes is a big enough red flag lol, my point is that these rhetorical questions don't make too much sense. klopp won with a klopp team. imagine klopp beating real with sturaro, or scoring 3 vs atleti with emre can or bernardeschi
before someone deliberately misunderstands above point: i'm not saying that klopp is a bad coach, in fact he's elite obviously. not necessarily a good fit for juventus, still a very good coach and he built a winning team on his own. but this year neither his team nor himself aren't doing well enough. so what, shit happens in football
and an other thing we ignored so far: let's not forget that every team that won the cl since mourinho's porto had a higher budget than juve. weird to suggest that since allegri never won the cl, he's automatically a bad coach. his first juve punched above their weight in the cl for 4 years, nobody could realistically expect that team to win the whole thing
so yeah, we have every right to laugh at city and psg. they spent shit load of money without winning the cl. with their resources and the backbone of last decade's team we would have won it already. we have every right to ridicule chelsea too, they spent as much as we do in 5 seasons, fired a good coach, brought in the flavor of the month, and became worse than ever.
obviously that doesn't mean that we shouldn't improve. we absolutely should do better. most of our signigs aren't working, we stopped dominating the league, we are out of the 10 best european clubs (allegri the shitfaced fraud as some ungrateful fucks call him made us number 3 lol), we spent hundreds of millions on mediocre at best players, we overpay our coach who's doing a terrible job, we do not have quick players, the physical condition of the squad is ridiculous, i could go on for days. most criticism is warranted. but we shouldn't ignore what other teams are fucking up. we can have a good laugh, and let's hope we'll have a management that learns from the mistakes jj and other clubs have been doing.
Stitch again fabricating shit and presenting it as truth here with no warnings. Dude is shameless.
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Also this part:
"cl is a lottery though. and allegri initially didn't even have an expensive team. wanna check how expensive was the one that progressed to a cl final against real madrid? that was a lyon beating city, villarreal beating bayern kinda upset."
2015 - path to final -> Atl (loss + draw) + Olympiacos + Malmo -> Dortmund -> Monaco -> Real -> Barca
Beating Real was the only unexpected win. That came through a narrow win at home, and a parked bus away that was bombarded for 90 minutes.
2017 - path to final -> Lyon + Sevilla + Zagreb group stage -> Porto -> Barca -> Monaco -> Real.
So we beat Barca, the rest were expected wins. And for those games against Barca, they probably felt it as daylight robbery.
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Stitch again fabricating shit and presenting it as truth here with no warnings. Dude is shameless.
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Also this part:
"cl is a lottery though. and allegri initially didn't even have an expensive team. wanna check how expensive was the one that progressed to a cl final against real madrid? that was a lyon beating city, villarreal beating bayern kinda upset."
2015 - path to final -> Atl (loss + draw) + Olympiacos + Malmo -> Dortmund -> Monaco -> Real -> Barca
Beating Real was the only unexpected win. That came through a narrow win at home, and a parked bus away that was bombarded for 90 minutes.
2017 - path to final -> Lyon + Sevilla + Zagreb group stage -> Porto -> Barca -> Monaco -> Real.
So we beat Barca, the rest were expected wins. And for those games against Barca, they probably felt it as daylight robbery.
What would you actually consider a successful run in this competition and how many did we have in our entire history? By your logic, it's just 1 or 2 when we won the whole thing.
It is like Inter fans or Milan fans stating that Inzaghi or Poili (whoever reaches the final) are great managers.
It is what it is.. our path to both finals had one stronger opponent.
Anyway.. our performances in both runs were excellent.. esp. Vs. The favorite in the path (real in 2015 and barca in 2017)
Just a question.. if Ineista one-on-one vs. Buffon at 1-0 went in.. It is an "IF" and a big one.. we most likely would have been eliminated.. would you still consider we punched above weight.
Well.. and in the same scenario.. had the ref called penal for Pogba in 2015 final.. would we still consider our run as exceptional or similar to what Simoene was doing with ATL and he lost the 2 finals
One on penals.
The second by a goal in the last minute of the game.
It is what it is.. our path to both finals had one stronger opponent.
Anyway.. our performances in both runs were excellent.. esp. Vs. The favorite in the path (real in 2015 and barca in 2017)
Just a question.. if Ineista one-on-one vs. Buffon at 1-0 went in.. It is an "IF" and a big one.. we most likely would have been eliminated.. would you still consider we punched above weight.
Well.. and in the same scenario.. had the ref called penal for Pogba in 2015 final.. would we still consider our run as exceptional or similar to what Simoene was doing with ATL and he lost the 2 finals
One on penals.
The second by a goal in the last minute of the game.
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Dude please just stop.
Oh and also I never said that he has always been a shit manager. His demise started after Cardiff. The warning signs were there. That was pretty obvious to most people, except you. Some of us simply caught onto it earlier than others, you were just slow.
And then there are those like juve123 and Vlad who still and will cling onto this sinking ship of a manager come what may. No matter how much evidence points to the need for him to be sacked.
just stop.Oh and also I never said that he has always been a shit manager. His demise started after Cardiff. The warning signs were there. That was pretty obvious to most people, except you. Some of us simply caught onto it earlier than others, you were just slow.
And then there are those like juve123 and Vlad who still and will cling onto this sinking ship of a manager come what may. No matter how much evidence points to the need for him to be sacked.
so you know that your argument isn't flawless and skipped blatant examples that wouldn't support your narrative
honestly i love how you admitted it. that automatically makes you 99 percentile in self reflection on tuz
honestly i love how you admitted it. that automatically makes you 99 percentile in self reflection on tuz
My initial point was each and every club I've listed I've seen mocked on Tuz when they're struggling and each and every one of them had a better peak than we did before dropping off. I'm not bringing them up because we can laugh all we want at the failed sportswashing experiments
It's like current day Milan laughing at us now because for the first time in a decade they're not our bitch.
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