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Nope. That's not what I said.
Same level is debatable. When you speak of world class vs not, those are youtube debates for kids.
What's undebatable is that they're different players with different characteristics. I'm no fan of Napoli players, but they're all better than ours at playing the ball. They're also better than Milan players playing the ball. That doesn't mean they'll win Milan tonight. Milan is more similar to us in characteristics.
That's my point. The best Allegri can bring out of this team is being solid defensively. People here are delusional thinking he can play some attacking ball retaining football when the squad isn't capable of it. Even Milan isn't capable of it (although more than we are), that doesn't mean they'll lose tonight.
Same level is debatable. When you speak of world class vs not, those are youtube debates for kids.
What's undebatable is that they're different players with different characteristics. I'm no fan of Napoli players, but they're all better than ours at playing the ball. They're also better than Milan players playing the ball. That doesn't mean they'll win Milan tonight. Milan is more similar to us in characteristics.
That's my point. The best Allegri can bring out of this team is being solid defensively. People here are delusional thinking he can play some attacking ball retaining football when the squad isn't capable of it. Even Milan isn't capable of it (although more than we are), that doesn't mean they'll lose tonight.
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C’mon dude. Locatelli was absolutely fantastic as a deep-lying playmaker for Sassuolo in their double pivot.
He was 99th percentile in Europe in 2020-21 (87) for total passes/90. He’s 64th percentile for total passes/90 this year. (51)
He was 83rd percentile for pass completion % (87.1%) in 20-21. He’s 56th percentile this year (81.4%).
And before you say he was attempting easier passes there or just short side and back passes. He wasn’t. He was 99th percentile for progressive passes at Sassuolo in 20-21 (9.83). He’s 65th percentile this year (4.96).
He was 93rd percentile for long passes completed in 20-21 (7.77). He’s 86th percentile this season (5.6)
He was 99th percentile for passes into final third in 20-21 (10.15). He’s 84th percentile this season (5.28)
He has regressed with his passing in every regard under Max. The defensive side of his game is fantastic, he’s become a destroyer of sorts. And while his passing isn’t awful still, he’s gone from being one of the best passers of the ball playing deep, to decidedly average in just two years.
I will always love Max for what he did in his first stint here. It was absolutely brilliant. But this second stint has been a joke from him, regardless of player quality. Our players are nowhere near as bad as they often look. He deserves to be sacked for it.
He was 99th percentile in Europe in 2020-21 (87) for total passes/90. He’s 64th percentile for total passes/90 this year. (51)
He was 83rd percentile for pass completion % (87.1%) in 20-21. He’s 56th percentile this year (81.4%).
And before you say he was attempting easier passes there or just short side and back passes. He wasn’t. He was 99th percentile for progressive passes at Sassuolo in 20-21 (9.83). He’s 65th percentile this year (4.96).
He was 93rd percentile for long passes completed in 20-21 (7.77). He’s 86th percentile this season (5.6)
He was 99th percentile for passes into final third in 20-21 (10.15). He’s 84th percentile this season (5.28)
He has regressed with his passing in every regard under Max. The defensive side of his game is fantastic, he’s become a destroyer of sorts. And while his passing isn’t awful still, he’s gone from being one of the best passers of the ball playing deep, to decidedly average in just two years.
I will always love Max for what he did in his first stint here. It was absolutely brilliant. But this second stint has been a joke from him, regardless of player quality. Our players are nowhere near as bad as they often look. He deserves to be sacked for it.
Once upon a time, there was a member of the Juventuz forum named Vlad. Vlad was a massive Allegri fanboy and couldn't stop singing his praises. He loved Allegri's prehistoric football tactics and thought that they were the key to Juventus' success.
However, the other members of the forum didn't agree with Vlad. They thought that Allegri's tactics were outdated and that he was a terrible coach who terrorized fans with his boring style of play.
But Vlad couldn't admit that Allegri was a bad coach. So instead, he decided to troll the other members of the forum. He would post funny memes and jokes about their favorite players, hoping to distract them from the fact that Allegri's tactics sucked ass.
One day, Vlad went too far with his trolling. He posted a meme that made fun of Adrien Rabiot, the team's star player, and it caused a massive uproar on the forum. The other members were furious, and they demanded that Vlad be banned from the forum.
Vlad was devastated. He couldn't believe that his love for Allegri had caused him to lose all his friends on the forum. But then he realized that he had been wrong all along. Allegri's tactics were terrible, and he had been blind to it all this time.
From that day forward, Vlad vowed to be more open-minded and to listen to the opinions of others. He still loved Juventus, but he knew that being a true fan meant admitting when the team was playing poorly. And as for Allegri, well, Vlad realized that maybe it was time for him to retire and make way for a new generation of coaches who were willing to try new things.
However, the other members of the forum didn't agree with Vlad. They thought that Allegri's tactics were outdated and that he was a terrible coach who terrorized fans with his boring style of play.
But Vlad couldn't admit that Allegri was a bad coach. So instead, he decided to troll the other members of the forum. He would post funny memes and jokes about their favorite players, hoping to distract them from the fact that Allegri's tactics sucked ass.
One day, Vlad went too far with his trolling. He posted a meme that made fun of Adrien Rabiot, the team's star player, and it caused a massive uproar on the forum. The other members were furious, and they demanded that Vlad be banned from the forum.
Vlad was devastated. He couldn't believe that his love for Allegri had caused him to lose all his friends on the forum. But then he realized that he had been wrong all along. Allegri's tactics were terrible, and he had been blind to it all this time.
From that day forward, Vlad vowed to be more open-minded and to listen to the opinions of others. He still loved Juventus, but he knew that being a true fan meant admitting when the team was playing poorly. And as for Allegri, well, Vlad realized that maybe it was time for him to retire and make way for a new generation of coaches who were willing to try new things.
Listen up, y'all, I gotta speak my mind
'Bout a coach who's got a style so unkind
Massimiliano Allegri, that's his name
Known for his defensive game, it's his claim to fame
Chorus:
Defensive and dour, that's his Jihad Ball
Criticism won't change him, he won't hear your call
Allegri's tactics, they may not be pretty
But they're effective, and that's what's important in this city
Verse 2:
His players at the back, they hold the line
Stopping the opposition, time after time
The crowd might boo and jeer, but he don't care
As long as his team's winning, he'll keep playing fair
Chorus:
Defensive and dour, that's his Jihad Ball
Criticism won't change him, he won't hear your call
Allegri's tactics, they may not be pretty
But they're effective, and that's what's important in this city
Verse 3:
Some say he should change, try something new
But Allegri's stubborn, he knows what to do
He'll stick to his guns, and play to his strengths
His team will defend, until the final whistle length
Chorus:
Defensive and dour, that's his Jihad Ball
Criticism won't change him, he won't hear your call
Allegri's tactics, they may not be pretty
But they're effective, and that's what's important in this city
Outro:
So there you have it, the story of Allegri's game
Defensive and dour, but still bringing fame
Love him or hate him, he's here to stay
And his Jihad Ball will win matches, come what may.
'Bout a coach who's got a style so unkind
Massimiliano Allegri, that's his name
Known for his defensive game, it's his claim to fame
Chorus:
Defensive and dour, that's his Jihad Ball
Criticism won't change him, he won't hear your call
Allegri's tactics, they may not be pretty
But they're effective, and that's what's important in this city
Verse 2:
His players at the back, they hold the line
Stopping the opposition, time after time
The crowd might boo and jeer, but he don't care
As long as his team's winning, he'll keep playing fair
Chorus:
Defensive and dour, that's his Jihad Ball
Criticism won't change him, he won't hear your call
Allegri's tactics, they may not be pretty
But they're effective, and that's what's important in this city
Verse 3:
Some say he should change, try something new
But Allegri's stubborn, he knows what to do
He'll stick to his guns, and play to his strengths
His team will defend, until the final whistle length
Chorus:
Defensive and dour, that's his Jihad Ball
Criticism won't change him, he won't hear your call
Allegri's tactics, they may not be pretty
But they're effective, and that's what's important in this city
Outro:
So there you have it, the story of Allegri's game
Defensive and dour, but still bringing fame
Love him or hate him, he's here to stay
And his Jihad Ball will win matches, come what may.
Do people genuinely believe the problem is just Allegri? I'm not against firing him, would welcome it actually, but I also dont think the problems will just go away once that happens. After this point deduction bullshit is over, I hope they choose the right sporting director/CEO/whatever label you wanna put on it, because it really starts there. I also believe the SD should be in charge of hiring the manager. Just give me some collaboration/alignment, because I dont think there's been any since Marotta left, and that was five years ago.
Speaking in F1 terms, I think we might have a competitive car with the wrong driver. Is it a great car? We dunno, the washed up guy at the wheel rarely goes past the 3rd gear.
Did you think much of Gattuso's Napoli that finished just behind Pirlo's Juve? No, but they changed the coach and 2 seasons later with minimal squad changes they're suddenly pulling off a 90+ points Scudetto winning campaign, blowing out the competition months before seasons end
Did you think much of Gattuso's Napoli that finished just behind Pirlo's Juve? No, but they changed the coach and 2 seasons later with minimal squad changes they're suddenly pulling off a 90+ points Scudetto winning campaign, blowing out the competition months before seasons end
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last year napoli was nothing special. did they need a 2nd season, or some fresh key players?
kvara and kim replacing insigne and koulibaly was a blessing for them. the rest of the squad has been playing together for years. spalletti didn't transform them, they play very similarly to most napoli teams we've seen lately: short passing, high line, high possession, good use of wings, attacking approach, you name it
they also just bottled a cl semi against an inferior team. are they chokers? must they fire spalletti on the spot? is it on the players or the coach? was it the ref? or is it a team sport and they weren't ready? is their best season ever deserves a statue? did a similar season (+supercoppa) deserve a sack in '19 like tuz's collective consciousness already suggested many times? is this napoli the best serie a team ever like cds wrote a few times, or is it the competition (including juventus) that became a bit shit lately? does a team finishing above the worst inda, juve, milan deserve the praise? is their glorious cl run (won the group ahead of the worst liverpool of klopp era, beat mighty frankfurt in the knockouts) is anything to write home about or they really wrote history like funny uefa twitter admin wrote?
so many questions. i want guidance
kvara and kim replacing insigne and koulibaly was a blessing for them. the rest of the squad has been playing together for years. spalletti didn't transform them, they play very similarly to most napoli teams we've seen lately: short passing, high line, high possession, good use of wings, attacking approach, you name it
they also just bottled a cl semi against an inferior team. are they chokers? must they fire spalletti on the spot? is it on the players or the coach? was it the ref? or is it a team sport and they weren't ready? is their best season ever deserves a statue? did a similar season (+supercoppa) deserve a sack in '19 like tuz's collective consciousness already suggested many times? is this napoli the best serie a team ever like cds wrote a few times, or is it the competition (including juventus) that became a bit shit lately? does a team finishing above the worst inda, juve, milan deserve the praise? is their glorious cl run (won the group ahead of the worst liverpool of klopp era, beat mighty frankfurt in the knockouts) is anything to write home about or they really wrote history like funny uefa twitter admin wrote?
so many questions. i want guidance
a team that financially is 3rd or 4th in the league, that is on pace for a 95 point season certainly is extraordinary. Regardless of whether Juve or Inter or Milan have dropped off, you still need to collect those points against all the teams in the league, not just the ones that are on a lower level than before.
Kim and Kvara obviously were very good recruiting done by Guintoli or ADL or whoever, but I think most of the praise belongs to Spalletti. He already found the 6th gear last year, they had a great start to the campaign and then went into a slump. This season he managed to significantly extend that period of good form and managed his resources incredibly well across 3 competitions, CL quarters+a dominant Scudetto win is jumping way above their asses.
while Allegri for the 2nd year running is still trying to figure out how to have the team play consistently and on a good intensity for 90 minutes. ask as many questions as you need, but the difference between Spalletti and Allegri is day and night. one might be Europe's coach of the year and the other the most overpaid manager in Europe.
Kim and Kvara obviously were very good recruiting done by Guintoli or ADL or whoever, but I think most of the praise belongs to Spalletti. He already found the 6th gear last year, they had a great start to the campaign and then went into a slump. This season he managed to significantly extend that period of good form and managed his resources incredibly well across 3 competitions, CL quarters+a dominant Scudetto win is jumping way above their asses.
while Allegri for the 2nd year running is still trying to figure out how to have the team play consistently and on a good intensity for 90 minutes. ask as many questions as you need, but the difference between Spalletti and Allegri is day and night. one might be Europe's coach of the year and the other the most overpaid manager in Europe.
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