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singus

Senior Member
Sep 22, 2020
2,073
I sort of disagree with the notion that our squad is neccessarily terrible, I think we dont know the potential of the squad because they're coached by a terrorist.

F.e. Chelsea's defense under Lampard was terrible, then Tuchel came in and they won CL 90% thanks to great defending. I'm not saying Vlahovic, Chiesa, ADM, Milik etc are necessarily a great attack, but I suspect they're capable of a lot more than what they've shown under the terrorist.
Exactly. So many CL winning teams made purchases that 1-2 years before that, didnt strike anyone as amazing superstars, but during those seasons grew up to be. When looking back in retrospective at those players, everyone says "yeah but they had Arnold, Firmino, Henderson, Salah etc".
 

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Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
35,089
you forgot kean, the former attacker prodigy, who was incredible for psg and his career was also ruined by allegri

yeah, you convinced me, that's certainly a 90 goal attack
He literally just said he doesn't think it's necessarily a great attack but that it can do better than the numbers it has been producing

But according to your radicalized brain, you believe he thinks it's a 90 goal attack :baus:

Maybe if you stop wasting your time selectively quoting people, pulling it out of context just to make your Allegro cult happy, maybe you could make this a better place.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,778
thank you greta

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What I'm saying is we dont know how bad or good they are. Imo the attack isnt neccessarily as hopeless as theyve been under the terrorist.
vlahovic who can't do the basics like first touch and is widely considered as an overpriced player, di maria who failed to show up before the world cup and admitted that he could have done a lot better, milik who's a fine player but rarely can get any continuity? and there's chiesa, allegedly injured by allegri, who also can't get any continuity

look, as i said we underperform as a team, and as i said many times, our approach is way too passive. but this isn't a great attack by any means. milik is only a positive surprise to tuz because we expected nothing from a napoli reject. di maria is way over the top, he will only stay because the family loves life in italy. vlahovic is getting criminal service, that's something we should be much better at, but he's far from a world class player, especially mentally

again, i'd love to see the same squad with a different coach. i think it's a very limited squad lacking quality in way too many key positions, but if de zerbi or tudor makes it tick, then i'd be more than happy to admit that i underestimated our players. feel free to quote me if we're scoring like crazy next season with the same players, with an other coach
 
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singus

Senior Member
Sep 22, 2020
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This is Allegris team, fondled by him over 7 years with a 2 year gap. I wouldnt expect any coach having an easy time taking over his mess of untrainable and soulless scraps. Most are forever ruined already.

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He literally just said he doesn't think it's necessarily a great attack but that it can do better than the numbers it has been producing

But according to your radicalized brain, you believe he thinks it's a 90 goal attack :baus:

Maybe if you stop wasting your time selectively quoting people, pulling it out of context just to make your Allegro cult happy, maybe you could make this a better place.
Definitely this!
 

maxi

Senior Member
Aug 31, 2006
3,767
Stitch and PI actually want Failegri gone. Learn to read and comprehend Dingus.
Do they really though? What singus was saying is that they try to gain ground wherever and whenever possible, and this is true. All it took was 7 wins for them to do a full 180° renegade on their position. Now we are at a point where they will go to absurd lengths and mental gymnastics to try and justify how Allegri 2.0 is more fruitful than Sarri's stint here, when the stats couldn't tell more of a different story.

No one should be falling for their fibs about being Allegri out. That's just their way of trying to save face. They are loyal to the cause to the very end.
 

Strickland

Senior Member
May 17, 2019
5,859
vlahovic who can't do the basics like first touch and is widely considered as an overpriced player, di maria who failed to show up before the world cup and admitted that he could have done a lot better, milik who's a fine player but rarely can get any continuity? and there's chiesa, allegedly injured by allegri, who also can't get any continuity

look, as i said we underperform as a team, and as i said many times, our approach is way too passive. but this isn't a great attack by any means. milik is only a positive surprise to tuz because we expected nothing from a napoli reject. di maria is way over the top, he will only stay because the family loves life in italy. vlahovic is getting criminal service, that's something we should be much better at, but he's far from a world class player, especially mentally

again, i'd love to see the same squad with a different coach. i think it's a very limited squad lacking quality in way too many key positions, but if de zerbi or tudor makes it tick, then i'd be more than happy to admit that i underestimated our players. feel free to quote me if we're scoring like crazy next season with the same players, with an other coach
there's ample space between our forwards scoring like crazy and scoring more than they have this season.

take a look at what our forwards scored in the league in 29 rounds:
Vlahovic 8
Kean 6
Milik 6
di Maria 4
Soule 1

Our forwards have scored 25 goals in league this season, combining for less than 1 goal per game. on average there's usually around 2 of them on the pitch. is it even possible to have these guys score less? are any of them passing the 10 goal milestone in the league? at this rate Vlahovic should just make it, but it's going to be close, lol. the same guy that was banging in 20+ goals the previous 2 seasons.
 
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singus

Senior Member
Sep 22, 2020
2,073
You know Dingus is back when you click on new posts and there always is a new post in the Allegri thread from a person you have on ignore.

Glad for maxi his friend is back though.
When are all the rest coming back though? There used to be a bright collection of allegro critics but they have all been banned havnt they, for voicing what is now common knowledge, mixed with some healthy friendly banter of course.
 

maxi

Senior Member
Aug 31, 2006
3,767
said no one ever sarriboy

you can't even read lol
So now that you're denying it, what exactly was your problem with my point then?

Seems like there are two options here. Either you're just dense with poor comprehensions skills and deliberately misconstrued what I said, or you've realised that this isn't a hill worth dying on because ive demonstrated that you were wrong and you can't admit it.

keep sucking dingus', maurice's and rus' cocks, accept your role here and don't try to act like you have an own opinion
I should come to you for some advice then, seeing as you are so evidently an expert on the art of throating with a speciality in Livornese cocks.
 

LiquidPLP

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2012
12,237
and what about those dumbos who simply want to rewrite history? allegri won because of conte? allegri never was a good coach, only won because of individual brilliance? he was a failure because he (only him, alone, and maybe dybala, higuain and bonucci, the others usually get a pass) failed to win those cl finals?

there's absolutely nothing wrong with wanting him out now obviously. the club sacked coaches for lot less and we can't afford an expensive coach that the players underperform with. but rewriting history on a regular basis and talking shit for the sake of it, those are tuz specials i won't take part in
You pay too much attention to those who try to rewrite history. Extremes are easy so it's not surprise people take stances like that. I personally don't have any issues with admitting that he did very well here, the records speak for themselves. His stay was overdue in his first stint though and the second one should have never happened tbh.
So I sort of get it why people hate Allegri these days, I myself wanted him sacked back in 2019 and never wanted him back. Reheated soups hardly ever taste good and big FU to AA for going the seemingly safe route. On top of that Tici turned out to be a disaster.

Who would be your pick for the next coach?
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,778
So now that you're denying it, what exactly was your problem with my point then?
your posts often lack context. allegri bad, that's the simpleton you are. you only demonstrated this, nothing else, and that's a demo i've seen way too many times. feel free to scroll back a few pages to read my point once again. tl;dr: contrary to popular belief in this thread, coaches rarely exist in a vacuum

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You pay too much attention to those who try to rewrite history.

Who would be your pick for the next coach?
i have to, unless i put every one of them on ignore. why don't you shush them?

as i said many times, i'd give tudor a go
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
11,411
We need a rebuild but it can't be this guy in charge of it

No attacker looks good here, they all fucking suck because 2x a week they spend 90 minutes chasing lost causes, eventually it wears them down and we're stuck in a negative loop.
 

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