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CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,322
So one single person on Tuz. Way to back that shit up. As I said, y’all been fighting with shadows. There’s been a pretty overwhelming consensus on the forum for a couple months now that Allegri needs to go, but every time anyone cheers for the team or is happy about a good result or a few good results y’all have an aneurysm and start spamming about “throaters” and “worshippers”.

And no, hoping that the team turns it around and starts consistently performing and winning under Max as long he’s not been fired and is still here, isn’t anywhere near the level of shameless idiocy of guys like Dingus, Hydde, Maxi, Brny44, PavelNel, and the others hoping we lose a bunch of matches so the coach gets sacked sooner.
I can only speak for myself and I’ve been cheering for the team even though I’ve been against the bald fucker for months now.

I found it totally fair that people would wish anything to get him sacked (which goes without saying that we ALL agree should have happened) when at that point in time keeping him seemed to be doing more long term damage to the club than anything else. We can argue it’s wasn’t the best of solutions but desperate times brought desperate measures

Now at our current situation which is that we actually have a chance of winning the damn thing or multiple things In this case, hoping to lose just so he gets sacked is beyond stupid. But again, I can only speak for myself.
 

maxi

Senior Member
Aug 31, 2006
3,766
maxi and the likes would never:


and it's fucking cassano, the hateful imbecile with a career highlight of 3 times refusing juventus :lol:

and now he's apparently a throater
Objectively speaking we played a good game tactically; no one is denying that. My issue lies with a certain reactionary group of people who get carried away after a string of good games, renegading on beliefs they held just 2 weeks ago because they are so impressionable.

The damage has been done and my opinion won't change. The nature of our champions league exit was beyond humiliating, and all the more infuriating given that we pay 9m/yr to this bald fraud who was hired to be the solution to our European struggle, but instead turned out to be the problem. I'm not willing to re-join the Allegri bandwagon over a few wins, (some of which were incredibly scrappy and not at all convincing- something that no one here seems to acknowledge). His attitude towards players is wrong, his philosophy is antiquated, and he is playing catch up with the rest of Europe. He needs to go.
 
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Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
I can only speak for myself and I’ve been cheering for the team even though I’ve been against the bald fucker for months now.

I found it totally fair that people would wish anything to get him sacked (which goes without saying that we ALL agree should have happened) when at that point in time keeping him seemed to be doing more long term damage to the club than anything else. We can argue it’s wasn’t the best of solutions but desperate times brought desperate measures

Now at our current situation which is that we actually have a chance of winning the damn thing or multiple things In this case, hoping to lose just so he gets sacked is beyond stupid. But again, I can only speak for myself.
I know :tup:

Hope for him to get sacked, certainly. there’s nothing wrong with that at all. But it’s a bizarre concept to me personally to hope for your team to lose when all is still to play for. Regardless of how much one hates the coach. I think that’s what most of us have qualms with. I hoped Sarri would win even though I had doubts he would. I hoped Pirlo would win even with those doubts again. And I hope Max wins now, even though I have even bigger doubts given the last 16 months.

I’ll be super disappointed if we win nothing this year and he isn’t sacked. But if it happens and he is our coach to start next season, I’m still going to cheer for the club to improve and succeed under him until he is sacked.
 

IlCapitano

Senior Member
Dec 16, 2012
5,614
I know :tup:

Hope for him to get sacked, certainly. there’s nothing wrong with that at all. But it’s a bizarre concept to me personally to hope for your team to lose when all is still to play for. Regardless of how much one hates the coach. I think that’s what most of us have qualms with. I hoped Sarri would win even though I had doubts he would. I hoped Pirlo would win even with those doubts again. And I hope Max wins now, even though I have even bigger doubts given the last 16 months.

I’ll be super disappointed if we win nothing this year and he isn’t sacked. But if it happens and he is our coach to start next season, I’m still going to cheer for the club to improve and succeed under him until he is sacked.
Literally the same thing. There is no way for him to get sacked unless the team plummets and loses again so if you're hoping for one you're hoping for the other too
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Literally the same thing. There is no way for him to get sacked unless the team plummets and loses again so if you're hoping for one you're hoping for the other too
Nah. I don’t think it’s the same thing. And if it is, that means management is doing an incredibly poor job. There’s more nuance than that, or there should be. Hoping for him to be sacked while we were losing to Maccabi and Monza and Benfica… there was nothing wrong with that. The club was embarrassing on the pitch for much of the past 16 months. And I think it should be obvious that hoping for him to be sacked (aside from for the few crazies like Hydde who would claim he should be sacked even if we won CL for not doing progressively enough lol) means hoping the management will get its shit together and sack him if he doesn’t get results and win something this year. Minds change if he succeeds in winning. He has 5 months now to get it together and win the fans back with good results.
 

IlCapitano

Senior Member
Dec 16, 2012
5,614
Nah. I don’t think it’s the same thing. And if it is, that means management is doing an incredibly poor job. There’s more nuance than that, or there should be. Hoping for him to be sacked while we were losing to Maccabi and Monza and Benfica… there was nothing wrong with that. The club was embarrassing on the pitch for much of the past 16 months. And I think it should be obvious that hoping for him to be sacked (aside from for the few crazies like Hydde who would claim he should be sacked even if we won CL for not doing progressively enough lol) means hoping the management will get its shit together and sack him if he doesn’t get results and win something this year. Minds change if he succeeds in winning. He has 5 months now to get it together and win the fans back with good results.
I am talking about the situation now, not hoping he was getting sacked 5 weeks ago.

There is literally no way to separate them. If you are hoping he gets sacked now or at the end of the season you're hoping Juventus fails to win anything, fails to qualify for CL football etc. Whatever target it is, whatever scenario it is, the only way Allegri gets sacked is if Juventus fails to win enough games, to win enough trophies.

That's why the coach and club are always tied together, always decide each others destiny. One has to do well for the other to do well.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,107
A fan can like or dislike a coach for whatever reason. You walk into a pub in England and ask what they think of the local town's manager, chances are you'll get a bunch of different answers. That's just part of the game. If you think that we all need to have the same opinion of someone just because they won before or can't get fired, my suggestion is to not be on an internet forum.
 

juve123

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2017
16,651
I am talking about the situation now, not hoping he's getting sacked 5 weeks ago.

There is literally no way to separate them. If you are hoping he gets sacked now or at the end of the season you're hoping Juventus fails to win anything, fails to qualify for CL football etc. Whatever target it is, whatever scenario it is, the only way Allegri gets sacked is if Juventus fails to win enough games, to win enough trophies.
Everybody wants him to succeed to restart the winning cycle apart from plastic fans.
 

IlCapitano

Senior Member
Dec 16, 2012
5,614
A fan can like or dislike a coach for whatever reason. You walk into a pub in England and ask what they think of the local town's manager, chances are you'll get a bunch of different answers. That's just part of the game. If you think that we all need to have the same opinion of someone just because they won before or can't get fired, my suggestion is to not be on an internet forum.
Next time you get a point will be your first.

Not talking about liking him, but hoping he gets sacked from now on only means one - you're hoping Juventus fails in one way or another. You can dislike him as much as you want and you can even say you want him fired even if we win the Scudetto and EL, that's fine. That's your opinion and your taste. But hoping for one thing that directly leads to another has nothing to do with feelings.

I hated Sarri, still hoped Juventus would win everything which would mean Sarri stays.
 
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Nah. I don’t think it’s the same thing. And if it is, that means management is doing an incredibly poor job. There’s more nuance than that, or there should be. Hoping for him to be sacked while we were losing to Maccabi and Monza and Benfica… there was nothing wrong with that. The club was embarrassing on the pitch for much of the past 16 months. And I think it should be obvious that hoping for him to be sacked (aside from for the few crazies like Hydde who would claim he should be sacked even if we won CL for not doing progressively enough lol) means hoping the management will get its shit together and sack him if he doesn’t get results and win something this year. Minds change if he succeeds in winning. He has 5 months now to get it together and win the fans back with good results.
Yeah, it’s not about the persona or something. It was right to sack him back then like it’s perhaps right to not sack him right now. I just want the best solution to the situation. Results and no injuries
 

pavelnel

Senior Member
Oct 24, 2006
2,474
So one single person on Tuz. Way to back that shit up. As I said, y’all been fighting with shadows. There’s been a pretty overwhelming consensus on the forum for a couple months now that Allegri needs to go, but every time anyone cheers for the team or is happy about a good result or a few good results y’all have an aneurysm and start spamming about “throaters” and “worshippers”.

And no, hoping that the team turns it around and starts consistently performing and winning under Max as long he’s not been fired and is still here, isn’t anywhere near the level of shameless idiocy of guys like Dingus, Hydde, Maxi, Brny44, PavelNel, and the others hoping we lose a bunch of matches so the coach gets sacked sooner.
Аааааnd the imbecile strikes again...
I have never said or hoped Juve to lose in order Allegri to be sacked. I despise his football and I do not believe he is a winning coach in Europe. These last 6 wins in Serie A have been mostly underwhelming and between them we got destroyed in CL. There is a zero evidence that Juve can play CL winning football under Allegri. I do not give a fuck if he wins Serie A and/or UEFA EL.
He must go at all cost at the end of the season. His only job is to get us in Top 4 and GTFO of Juve. CL humiliations have been enough under him. In the past two years, he has earned the title of "The worst Juve coach in history".

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maxi

Senior Member
Aug 31, 2006
3,766
Not talking about liking him, but hoping he gets sacked from now on only means one - you're hoping Juventus fails in one way or another.
Not at all. The loss to Haifa and our CL exit was the last straw for me. We can win or lose from this point onwards; it won't change my mind about him leaving.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,107
Next time you get a point will be your first.

Not talking about liking him, but hoping he gets sacked from now on only means one - you're hoping Juventus fails in one way or another. You can dislike him as much as you want and you can even say you want him fired even if we win the Scudetto and EL, that's fine. That's your opinion and your taste. But hoping for one thing that directly leads to another has nothing to do with feelings.

I hated Sarri, still hoped Juventus would win everything which would mean Sarri stays.
Well, even if we win the Scudetto, I still want him sacked for a number of reasons. I don't see anything wrong with that - Sarri won the Scudetto and was replaced. Clearly he wasn't right for Juve, and the same should be said about Allegri.
 

DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
64,652
Well, even if we win the Scudetto, I still want him sacked for a number of reasons. I don't see anything wrong with that - Sarri won the Scudetto and was replaced. Clearly he wasn't right for Juve, and the same should be said about Allegri.
If I go back in time and check your posts you probably had the same opinion about Allegri before he went on to win pretty much what there is to win with the club, clearly.

You just dislike the man and it isn't even tied to how he does with the team, you want him out regardless.

You HATE THIS MAN.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Аааааnd the imbecile strikes again...
I have never said or hoped Juve to lose in order Allegri to be sacked. I despise his football and I do not believe he is a winning coach in Europe. These last 6 wins in Serie A have been mostly underwhelming and between them we got destroyed in CL. There is a zero evidence that Juve can play CL winning football under Allegri. I do not give a fuck if he wins Serie A and/or UEFA EL.
He must go at all cost at the end of the season. His only job is to get us in Top 4 and GTFO of Juve. CL humiliations have been enough under him. In the past two years, he has earned the title of "The worst Juve coach in history".

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What a retard. :lol:
 

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