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Everyone is to blame. We have a bunch of mercenaries on the team, but the coach is also highly accountable. He is clueless and stubborn. His inflexbility and obsession with certain positions and favoritism towards certain players isn't helping either.
Having said that, it's easier to change one man than an entire squad. Allegri MUST Go! This shouldn't even be a discussion at this point. However, in an ideal world, the entire board would be held responsible and summarrily dismissed, the coach and his staff would be fucked off, and half the squad would be sold or have their contracts terminated.
Having said that, it's easier to change one man than an entire squad. Allegri MUST Go! This shouldn't even be a discussion at this point. However, in an ideal world, the entire board would be held responsible and summarrily dismissed, the coach and his staff would be fucked off, and half the squad would be sold or have their contracts terminated.
proof that you didn't even read one of my previous posts
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jesus dude, i literally said that allegri shouldn't be here, i repeated it multiple times so that everyone understand that. i am not even trying to not blame him, and it's still not clear for some
as for mckennie (or sandro, mds, bonucci and a few others): they shouldn't even be at juventus at first place. there's not a single lineup this season that doesn't contain at least 2-3 shit players not even worthy of the jersey, and the majority of the rest is squad player level.
inb4 the inevitable counter argument: yes,we should still be able to beat monza, so allegri isn't blameless. i never said he was. i repeated many times that the squad is shit, but not this shit. the squad is still underwhelming.
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You blame McKennie for being shit, but Allegri keep playing him as starter. So who is more to blame here? 
For sure McKennie didn't pick himself as starter.
For sure McKennie didn't pick himself as starter.
as for mckennie (or sandro, mds, bonucci and a few others): they shouldn't even be at juventus at first place. there's not a single lineup this season that doesn't contain at least 2-3 shit players not even worthy of the jersey, and the majority of the rest is squad player level.
inb4 the inevitable counter argument: yes,we should still be able to beat monza, so allegri isn't blameless. i never said he was. i repeated many times that the squad is shit, but not this shit. the squad is still underwhelming.
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it is a complete failure of course, no two ways about it
sad that you don't get the argument either. mike never blames the players (besides some senators lol), like we had city's squad and all they'd need is some proper coaching lol. he argues that we had a brilliant mercato because the players we brought in are great professionals. like 1. it was true while it isn't 2. like a good mercato would/could fix all the holes in the squad. that's the argument.
once again, allegri has been terrible and deserves to be sacked. i never even questioned that. still, more or less the same mess existed with sarri and pirlo too, so it's not purely a coaching issue.
sad that you don't get the argument either. mike never blames the players (besides some senators lol), like we had city's squad and all they'd need is some proper coaching lol. he argues that we had a brilliant mercato because the players we brought in are great professionals. like 1. it was true while it isn't 2. like a good mercato would/could fix all the holes in the squad. that's the argument.
once again, allegri has been terrible and deserves to be sacked. i never even questioned that. still, more or less the same mess existed with sarri and pirlo too, so it's not purely a coaching issue.
I agree that McKennie is bad but replace McKennie with X player i.e Locatelli and we'll see more or less similar performance. Replace Bonucci/ Bremer with Rugani and we become significantly worse. Same case with Sandro -> DS.
We're just not functional well as a team especially in midfield, and midfield is the most vital part for any football teams. We used to be able to subs Vidal/Pirlo/Marchisio with lesser quality player like Padoin/ Giacch without seeing any significant drop. That was because we were functional as team and this is mostly down to the coach to make it work.
tbh I won't blame Allegri if he somehow finds a system that work as a foundation and he just doesn't have the players now. We can slowly replace them and buy players that fit the system, but what we see is just clueless football every weeks
We're just not functional well as a team especially in midfield, and midfield is the most vital part for any football teams. We used to be able to subs Vidal/Pirlo/Marchisio with lesser quality player like Padoin/ Giacch without seeing any significant drop. That was because we were functional as team and this is mostly down to the coach to make it work.
tbh I won't blame Allegri if he somehow finds a system that work as a foundation and he just doesn't have the players now. We can slowly replace them and buy players that fit the system, but what we see is just clueless football every weeks
we don't have to buy players for allegri anymore, this is clearly a dead end
it's just baffling that no matter who you pick from this team (and i'm not even considering pogba, chiesa and di maria part of this team as they are practically virtual players), you end up with an underwhelming starting 11 with multiple tradeoffs. and the attitude of players is simply inexplicable. bonucci talked about it last season right after ronaldo left, when he said that the team often relied on cr to solve things on his own. now i see the same but without ronaldo lol. bonucci's defensive "move" on brahim diaz is the prime example. he even raised his hands literally saying "it's not my fault" lol, and that's our capitano.
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can i have a few guesses?
bonucci, sandro, cuadrado, paredes, di maria, mckennie, kean
attitude wise, i'm more or less happy with perin (how the fuck he isn't the starter), danilo, miretti, bremer, milik. the others could either try harder (locatelli, vlahovic) or just rescind their contracts and fuck off (majority of the rest), the exemplary professionals they are
it's just baffling that no matter who you pick from this team (and i'm not even considering pogba, chiesa and di maria part of this team as they are practically virtual players), you end up with an underwhelming starting 11 with multiple tradeoffs. and the attitude of players is simply inexplicable. bonucci talked about it last season right after ronaldo left, when he said that the team often relied on cr to solve things on his own. now i see the same but without ronaldo lol. bonucci's defensive "move" on brahim diaz is the prime example. he even raised his hands literally saying "it's not my fault" lol, and that's our capitano.
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can i have a few guesses?
bonucci, sandro, cuadrado, paredes, di maria, mckennie, kean
attitude wise, i'm more or less happy with perin (how the fuck he isn't the starter), danilo, miretti, bremer, milik. the others could either try harder (locatelli, vlahovic) or just rescind their contracts and fuck off (majority of the rest), the exemplary professionals they are
A lot of people will take the suggestion that there are players not happy with the ritiro but it's very clear both Allegri and Agnelli have placed all the blame on the team. The former has not admitted or suggested that he has had any mistakes. Agnelli quoting Max saying that players not being able to tackle is not a tactical issue showed this. Look back at the sconcerti interview, all on the players now Galeone saying the team is no good. I'd be pissed off as well
Even if everyone was fit, it would be virtually impossible to field a starting eleven that isn't underwhelming. The situation is that dire.
But that's obviously no excuse for the laughable "performances" over the last few weeks/months. Quality players or not, I want to see some effort from them.
Not a bad point. But the thing is, the team is no good.
The fact that they're barely trying may be up to Allegri, at least in part. Same with the (lack of) tactics. But at the end of the day, at least half the squad just isn't good enough or not anymore. And it doesn't help that most of these guys are the high earners.
But that's obviously no excuse for the laughable "performances" over the last few weeks/months. Quality players or not, I want to see some effort from them.
Not a bad point. But the thing is, the team is no good.
The fact that they're barely trying may be up to Allegri, at least in part. Same with the (lack of) tactics. But at the end of the day, at least half the squad just isn't good enough or not anymore. And it doesn't help that most of these guys are the high earners.
