Massimiliano Allegri (258 Viewers)

[GrandeGigi]

rookie my ass, let's not be idiots. guy is the only coach to win 5 back to back scudetti, obviously a legend, not even debatable.

sack him and forget ever calling him again, but rookie? ffs tuz

I think you have to factor in that there is huge emotion at present. Personally, this is the lowest point of being not just a Juventus fan for 35 years, but a football fan and it has happened under this man’s tenure. He has killed all enthusiasm for football to the point I don’t want to watch or play the sport.

That emotion clouds his previous accomplishments and some time would need to pass before the average fan is able to approach this topic rationally.

 

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[Strickland]

what about being consistent and judging players like marchisio, barza or del piero based on their last seasons here. lippi's 2nd stint ended badly too.

would be childish to ignore the big picture so let's not even go there, right?

Del Piero was ready to sign a blank contract. And went to Serie B. Marchisio got hurt playing for Juve, was broken and still gave up the last two years of his contract. These are undisputable legends, who deeply cared for the club. Im starting to think Allegri doesnt.

 

[Bianconero81]

what about being consistent and judging players like marchisio, barza or del piero based on their last seasons here. lippi's 2nd stint ended badly too.

would be childish to ignore the big picture so let's not even go there, right?

Look man. If Allegri resigns this month, I'm all for granting him legendary status (at the end of the day it matters little what I think). However, if he continues to break every negative record in the book and we end up missing the CL, then I will find it very difficult to consider him a legend.

Look at Marotta - does he deserve to be in the rookie section? It's debatable.

Judging players is different to judging a coach, I suppose, but even then Barza, Marchisio and Del Piero never really outstayed their respective welcomes, and we were still winning, even when they were in the twilight of their careers.

Lippi's 2nd stint yielded two Serie A titles, and it was only in his last season here (2004) that we we failed to win, yet still comfortably finished in 3rd place.

Allegri has been garbage for almost 1.5 years now.

 

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[s4tch]

I think you have to factor in that there is huge emotion at present. Personally, this is the lowest point of being not just a Juventus fan for 35 years, but a football fan and it has happened under this man’s tenure. He has killed all enthusiasm for football to the point I don’t want to watch or play the sport.

That emotion clouds his previous accomplishments and some time would need to pass before the average fan is able to approach this topic rationally.

that's what i'm saying: it's all some reactionary drama created by some spoiled fans who already forgot that the same man was our coach during our 9 year domestic domination. allegri (along with conte, marotta, and some world class to very good players like buffon, chiellini, barza, pirlo, licht, tevez, vidal, pjanic, marchisio, pogba, etc) are the reason we think that anything than a domestic double is an utter failure. ffs this club failed to win the coppa for 20 years, and the longest previous scudetto run was 5, right at the beginning of serie a history, back in the '30s. yes, worse seasons can happen, and it is one of the worst i can also remember. this won't take away anything allegri has done in his first 5 years.

sack him, hire a more fitting coach and move on. but let's not discount his 1st stint here which was nothing short of excellent. for me he's a legend before he starts counting our scudetti the inda way. it's like evaluating klopp on this current season lol, isn't he suddenly a pool legend anymore? fans always think that you're as good as your last game, so it's only natural, i get it.

also, i'm probably kinda less wound up cause i've been telling for years that the level of squad has been dropping very quickly and steadily. i expected a meh season, similar to the last one, simply based on the players at disposal. this is a much more complicated issue than just regular peeps wanting blood and trying our luck with an other coach. we're obviously doing much worse than even i expected, so firing the coach is obviously warranted and required moving forward. questioning his legendary status is an other thing though and i won't go there yet.

 

[pavelnel]

The worst Juve coach I have ever seen who broke almost every negative record there is. His first stint is not relevent as even then we did not play the best football possible and most of the success was due to the great players we had.
Currently, his limitations have been exposed for more than a year. Relegation level football and mediocre results at best.

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[s4tch]

...His first stint is not relevent as even then we did not play the best football possible and most of the success was due to the great players we had...

@GrandeGigi see, that's what i'm talking about

 

[pavelnel]

@GrandeGigi see, that's what i'm talking about

What is there to see, jerk? I claimed this even during his first stint. He is a limited coach with archaic football philosophy. Get your head out of your ass and finally face the truth.

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[Orgut]

I honestly dont understand why it takes so much time to fire this guy. He is like doing everything possible to get sacked but "We still have faith in Allegri" - I mean our team isnt doing anything - isnt determined, isnt playing nice but losing - just play terrible and lose, there is no improvement - Why is there still faith?! I fail to understand.
I`d even back up promoting Montero as its different to what we have and we arent really scared of making things worse as Montero would need to do really bad in order to get the same results.
Chances of us doing better with Montero are more for than against (When there is no aspect of positivity you must change)

 

[Leendiz]

Sticking with him is beyond ridiculous. Nothing will change and we won't make the top 4 . The club is a mess and it will be a long time before we win anything if this continues

 

[IliveForJuve]

rookie my ass, let's not be idiots. guy is the only coach to win 5 back to back scudetti, obviously a legend, not even debatable.

sack him and forget ever calling him again, but rookie? ffs tuz

He's trying to bleed the club dry at this point and get the rest of his contract value.

That's Amauri-esque behavior. Rookie section.

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I honestly dont understand why it takes so much time to fire this guy. He is like doing everything possible to get sacked but "We still have faith in Allegri" - I mean our team isnt doing anything - isnt determined, isnt playing nice but losing - just play terrible and lose, there is no improvement - Why is there still faith?! I fail to understand.
I`d even back up promoting Montero as its different to what we have and we arent really scared of making things worse as Montero would need to do really bad in order to get the same results.
Chances of us doing better with Montero are more for than against (When there is no aspect of positivity you must change)

Agnelli knows he fucked up big time by giving Max such a stupid contract. For him now it's ride or die because of the €€€.

 

[s4tch]

What is there to see

a spoiled so called fan making terribly simple judgement

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He's trying to bleed the club dry at this point and get the rest of his contract value.

oh yeah, just like khedira and ramsey. let's blame them too to give themselves fat contracts here

be consistent: blame allegri for the results, blame agnelli for allegri's inexplicable contract

 

[Salvo]

Fuck is he still here?

 

[Adrian]

Fuck is he still here?

I checked football news on the hour every hour all day waiting for the announcement that he is sacked...think I'll be waiting for years.

 

[IliveForJuve]

a spoiled so called fan making terribly simple judgement

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oh yeah, just like khedira and ramsey. let's blame them too to give themselves fat contracts here

be consistent: blame allegri for the results, blame agnelli for allegri's inexplicable contract

I'm not blaming Allegri for the inexplicable contract but this season he's been the worst coach we've ever had, and he should have the decency to resign but instead he'll try to milk the club and put us in an even worse position for the coming years.

If he doesn't resign, he clearly places money and/or his ego above the club.

Legends don't do that IMO.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Most of us survived Calciopoli but so many has given up now because Allegri. Man is the most dangerous terrorist ever

At least with calciopoli we knew we'd be back and it'll take time. Now the management are sitting on their arse doing nothing expecting a sudden change

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I checked football news on the hour every hour all day waiting for the announcement that he is sacked...think I'll be waiting for years.

Think you'll need a new F5 button before then

 

[s4tch]

I'm not blaming Allegri for the inexplicable contract but this season he's been the worst coach we've ever had, and he should have the decency to resign but instead he'll try to milk the club and put us in an even worse position for the coming years.

If he doesn't resign, he clearly places money and/or his ego above the club.

Legends don't do that IMO.

@Strickland mentioned del piero who's an obvious juve legend. i dunno whether either of you (or any tuz members for that matter) read moggi's book when he talks about the negotiations before every del piero renewal. according to moggi adp was greedy as fuck, a pain in the ass to negotiate with and always wanted to milk the club. yes, he showed loyalty when it mattered the most, but that loyalty always had a price. he's still a legend and i'd never question it obviously.

allegri picked juve over real madrid. some say he's a coward and didn't want a challenge, some say he followed his heart, i'll let you decide

i can't blame people not letting money go. coaches rarely resign, fifa guidelines protect them too much. it makes sense, and you'd do the same. you'd even fucking marry a random british uggo chick for a passport lol and who am i to judge you, right?

agnelli terribly misjudged the situation, that's my take on it. i hope he or his successor learns from it for the sake of the club.

 

[U Picciriddu]

Most of us survived Calciopoli but so many has given up now because Allegri. Man is the most dangerous terrorist ever

Serie B was a pleasure compared to this shit

 

[IliveForJuve]

@Strickland mentioned del piero who's an obvious juve legend. i dunno whether either of you (or any tuz members for that matter) read moggi's book when he talks about the negotiations before every del piero renewal. according to moggi adp was greedy as fuck, a pain in the ass to negotiate with and always wanted to milk the club. yes, he showed loyalty when it mattered the most, but that loyalty always had a price. he's still a legend and i'd never question it obviously.

allegri picked juve over real madrid. some say he's a coward and didn't want a challenge, some say he followed his heart, i'll let you decide

i can't blame people not letting money go. coaches rarely resign, fifa guidelines protect them too much. it makes sense, and you'd do the same. you'd even fucking marry a random british uggo chick for a passport lol and who am i to judge you, right?

agnelli terribly misjudged the situation, that's my take on it. i hope he or his successor learns from it for the sake of the club.

I'm a global talent, I don't need to marry anyone for a passport

Why are you so butthurt over a coach that you have to lash out and throw personal insults? Sheesh. I expected better from you.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

You know when the only ones sticking up for allegri are the dossers like Tek, cuadrado and de sciglio whilst those who are against him are our better players like chiesa and vlahovic amongst many others just shows how messed up this situation is