Massimiliano Allegri (204 Viewers)

[Boksic]

Nobody is mad, everyone is exhausted because of Allegriball. 2-1 at home against vacation mode Venezia that is going down is just unacceptable. That Vlahovic - Chiellini sub was epitome of the Allegriball 2022 edition

Inter beat them 2-1 at home with a 90th minute winner. Milan won 2-0 with 2 second half goals, the second coming in the 82nd minute.

EDIT - Lazio won 1-0 at home against them with a second half penalty. Roma lost 3-2 away (home game to come). Fiorentina won 1-0 at home against them.

 

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[Hust]

Inter beat them 2-1 at home with a 90th minute winner. Milan won 2-0 with 2 second half goals, the second coming in the 82nd minute.

EDIT - Lazio won 1-0 at home against them with a second half penalty. Roma lost 3-2 away (home game to come). Fiorentina won 1-0 at home against them.

Logic does not compute with his neuro-net processor

 

[s4tch]

See, lying again on purpose. Show the exact quote and it will make all the difference.

that's an other extremist claim without context. funny that you sometimes mention context, and yet you completely forget it. we have multiple midfielders who are capable of playing mezzala at a high level, zero regista or pure dm though. we have solid fullbacks, only cuadrado can attack though (and inb4 you mention pellegrini, he's no juve level, so stop before you start). we have only cuadrado who can regularly take on defenders and get behind them on his own (plus chiesa, but his season was a mess too). we have no fast players besides those two either. we have a proper 9 since february, wingers wut. that swiss player also arrived at the end of the winter mercato then got injured. chiesa injured, mckennie injured, locatelli injured for months, dybala injured for half the season, etc. and of course zero leadership besides bonucci (injured a lot this season) and de ligt, which is simply insufficient.

bottom line is that this is an unbalanced squad, the worst in recent memory. even conte's first team had bbc, mvp and licht, an insanely strong core we can only dream about now. so that squad could cope with the league with estigarribia starting a few matches here and there.

but but but those are internationals lol, how to miss the context completely

again, we'd have the same issues with ANY coach i promise, and imagine having italiano here with similar issues, your brain would explode cause you couldn't cope with what's happening. i saw that you already started looking for excuses for italiano for bottling their season, imagine what you'd have to go through if he was here and your darlings rabiot and kean wouldn't suddenly turn into prime nedved and vieri lol

one remark which bothers me a lot. if allegri's training methods are responsible for the injuries and the lack of stamina and speed, then he should not start the next pre-season here. (obviously zero evidence point to that, other than dingus knowing it already hahahaha.) kulu regaining his speed after 1.5 years at juve and the inexplicable amount of muscle injuries is much more worrying to me than the lack of high pressing by arthur or dybala.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

oh yeah, absolutely. we had matches that allegri fucked.

but this squad winning the scudetto is certainly a stretch. before the season started (so we still had ronaldo and had an illusion of a healthy chiesa for the whole season) i expected us to finish no better than 3rd, and i said that max wasn't a miracle maker. i still think the same.

While I get your point I can’t be convinced this squad isn’t good enough to beat the likes of Empoli, Sassuolo, Verona etc. No matter how bad we can agree it is. And it’s fucking bad. But It’s the one reason why I won’t give Max a free pass.

 

[zizinho]

While I get your point I can’t be convinced this squad isn’t good enough to beat the likes of Empoli, Sassuolo, Verona etc. No matter how bad we can agree it is. And it’s fucking bad. But It’s the one reason why I won’t give Max a free pass.

All teams lose to lesser teams at times. The key to a successful league campaign is consistency, how much more often can you beat those than the competition. And this squad is not consistent, especially when you factor in the injuries

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

that's an other extremist claim without context. funny that you sometimes mention context, and yet you completely forget it. we have multiple midfielders who are capable of playing mezzala at a high level, zero regista or pure dm though. we have solid fullbacks, only cuadrado can attack though (and inb4 you mention pellegrini, he's no juve level, so stop before you start). we have only cuadrado who can regularly take on defenders and get behind them on his own (plus chiesa, but his season was a mess too). we have no fast players besides those two either. we have a proper 9 since february, wingers wut. that swiss player also arrived at the end of the winter mercato then got injured. chiesa injured, mckennie injured, locatelli injured for months, dybala injured for half the season, etc. and of course zero leadership besides bonucci (injured a lot this season) and de ligt, which is simply insufficient.

bottom line is that this is an unbalanced squad, the worst in recent memory. even conte's first team had bbc, mvp and licht, an insanely strong core we can only dream about now. so that squad could cope with the league with estigarribia starting a few matches here and there.

but but but those are internationals lol, how to miss the context completely

again, we'd have the same issues with ANY coach i promise, and imagine having italiano here with similar issues, your brain would explode cause you couldn't cope with what's happening. i saw that you already started looking for excuses for italiano for bottling their season, imagine what you'd have to go through if he was here and your darlings rabiot and kean wouldn't suddenly turn into prime nedved and vieri lol

one remark which bothers me a lot. if allegri's training methods are responsible for the injuries and the lack of stamina and speed, then he should not start the next pre-season here. (obviously zero evidence point to that, other than dingus knowing it already hahahaha.) kulu regaining his speed after 1.5 years at juve and the inexplicable amount of muscle injuries is much more worrying to me than the lack of high pressing by arthur or dybala.

Zero regista - Locatelli was bought for this role but instead Allegri is jumping between players and trying to use rabiot and arthur as deep lying playmakers for no reason and then you blame them for playing bad, you know you can play without regista and succeed? somehow allegri doesn't.
We don't have a pure DM - since january we have a Zakaria who was used as pure dm for M'gladbach, ask Allegri why he prefers to use him in b2b role instead of using him as pure DM.
Fullbacks - last season Danilo has made 4 assists, Cuadrado has made 10 assists and Sandro has made 3 assists, this season all of them together have 5. How so ? It's really easy to explain - Allegri doesn't let them to push forward, their main goal nowadays is to defend, look at Pellegrini, he was fucking dying today against VENEZIA.
Our left side is fucking dead amd it's been like this for the WHOLE season.
Unbalanced squad - what a rubbish. Unbalanced how? It's Allegri's job to have a balance in his squad. But instead we see this against worst squad of the league:

being owned by ARAMU

See? left side is fucking dead, who makes decision about how to play? Who asks Pellegrini to stay at the back? Me? Or you? or your genius mastermind Allegri?

Me looking for excuses for Italiano? Just another BLATANT lie from allegri's cultist.

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Inter beat them 2-1 at home with a 90th minute winner. Milan won 2-0 with 2 second half goals, the second coming in the 82nd minute.

EDIT - Lazio won 1-0 at home against them with a second half penalty. Roma lost 3-2 away (home game to come). Fiorentina won 1-0 at home against them.

As usual, no context at all. This is their current form:

What the fuck does it have in common that they were able to get some points during the season from big teams ? CURRENTLY they are fucking dead and gone. they had 9 losses in a fucking row before the match against Juventus and you are looking for excuses why it was hard to beat them? really? jesus christ, dem allegroids are crazy

 

[s4tch]

While I get your point I can’t be convinced this squad isn’t good enough to beat the likes of Empoli, Sassuolo, Verona etc. No matter how bad we can agree it is. And it’s fucking bad. But It’s the one reason why I won’t give Max a free pass.

again, quoting myself: "we had matches that allegri fucked." empoli is one of them.

btw every season that eventually ended with juve winning the scudetto in that 9 year streak had a few similar matches. buffon's blunder against lecce, frosinone scoring an equalizer from one single shot on target, don't even wanna get started. those are episodes. the bottom line is that usually the strongest squad wins the league, and currently we don't have that. it always was inda's title to lose.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

All teams lose to lesser teams at times. The key to a successful league campaign is consistency, how much more often can you beat those than the competition. And this squad is not consistent, especially when you factor in the injuries

The keyword is at times. At times even Madrid will have its bad days. In our case it’s the whole season.

To be clear I’m not making a direct comparison, we’re nowhere near their talent. But I refuse to believe this is the best the current coach (or Pirlo and Sarri before him) can get out of these players. I can’t be convinced they’re this bad.

 

[s4tch]

yeah rus, feel free to go on without me. too long and too vague to even bother. and unless you forget those childish "that's a lie" claims without reading your posts, don't expect anyone to take you seriously.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

yeah rus, feel free to go in without me. too long and too vague to even bother. and unless you forget those childish "that's a lie" claims without reading your posts, don't expect anyone to take you seriously.

The liar asks to stop proving him that he's a liar. Unbelievable. You've said that im making an excuses for Italiano's poor form in the last matches but i've NEVER said anything like this. You even went on AGREEING with me that he's doing decent job. What the fuck

 

[CrimsonianKing]

again, quoting myself: "we had matches that allegri fucked." empoli is one of them.

btw every season that eventually ended with juve winning the scudetto in that 9 year streak had a few similar matches. buffon's blunder against lecce, frosinone scoring an equalizer from one single shot on target, don't even wanna get started. those are episodes. the bottom line is that usually the strongest squad wins the league, and currently we don't have that. it always was inda's title to lose.

To your point why do you think these episodes are happening so often then? Some in our current squad are clearly mentally weak but it seems to me it’s more of a collective issue than just a few individuals having a fuck all day. These are things that are supposed to be worked out by the coach.

 

[Post Ironic]

yeah rus, feel free to go on without me. too long and too vague to even bother. and unless you forget those childish "that's a lie" claims without reading your posts, don't expect anyone to take you seriously.

RUS fanbois Italiano and Sarri lol

Look at Lazio and Fiorentina’s home wins over Venezia in the post he just made. 1-0.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

RUS fanbois Italiano and Sarri lol

Look at Lazio and Fiorentina’s home wins over Venezia in the post he just made. 1-0.

Fiorentina even lost 0-1 in Venice also, add this to your list of excuses.

 

[maxi]

Inter beat them 2-1 at home with a 90th minute winner. Milan won 2-0 with 2 second half goals, the second coming in the 82nd minute.

EDIT - Lazio won 1-0 at home against them with a second half penalty. Roma lost 3-2 away (home game to come). Fiorentina won 1-0 at home against them.

Wow I guess we should feel so much better about ourselves now

 

[Post Ironic]

To your point why do you think these episodes are happening so often then? Some in our current squad are clearly mentally weak but it seems to me it’s more of a collective issue than just a few individuals having a fuck all day. These are things that are supposed to be worked out by the coach.

I’d say we’ve had 3.5 years of getting worse and worse. The first half of 2019-20 we were on fire with Ronaldo-Mandzukic combo, and then we just collapsed midseason and have been in a rapid decline ever since. Especially mentally. Sarri’s team started fast and should have cruised to a scudetto but they got worse and worse as the season went on, our defense turned to shit and they almost bottled it even with Ronaldo and Dybala on fire and then bottled an easy Rof16 tie against Lyon. Pirlo had better team stats than Sarri, more goals, better goal differential, but we completely lost our ability to win the close matches under him and finished 4th and crashed out embarrassingly in Rof16 again because of this.

And this year we lost Ronaldo on day 1 and then a third of the way through the year lost Chiesa. Our only two players with fire and drive and fight in attack. Our mentality is gone to shit. That’s partly on Allegri and partly on the players and partly on the disastrous transfer policy and lack of grinta and fight and winning mentality instilled in the squad over the last years.

He has until midseason next year to get us improving. Otherwise we should move on.

 

[s4tch]

The liar asks to stop proving him that he's a liar. Unbelievable.

russian propagandist being a russian propagandist. like clockwork. you're like putin but on a football forum: extremist, dumb and lacking self reflection.

read your own posts when you blame fiorentina players and not their coach when they lose. then post "italianoball " when they have a positive result. terrible consistency

 

[Mike-e-y]

So much rage in this thread…

no doubt Allegri hasn’t done a great job this season, it’s about bang average. First 4 games aside we’ve done ok, and we’ve been very unlucky in the H2H games, particularly the inter one.

Our style of play is poor though, no doubt. Is this players or manager? Truth is it’s both, the players we have don’t lend themselves to an adventurous and high intensity system but Allegri hasn’t given the team any identity and that’s a huge concern.

we shouldn’t sack him though, constant changing and no clear plan is what has got us here. Another transfer window and being able to change some of the dead bodies we have in this team will hopefully go a way to seeing us gain an identity again. Next season is going to be very disjointed with Qatar thrown in the middle so I hope he gets it right quickly. Another season like this and he will need sacking next year

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

russian propagandist being a russian propagandist. like clockwork. you're like putin but on a football forum: extremist, dumb and lacking self reflection.

read your own posts when and not their coach when they lose. then post "italianoball " when they have a positive result. terrible consistency

See, just another lie.

Another lie about the players.

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Im telling you that the loss is on coach but then you come here and say that im blaming Fiorentina losses on them but not on the coach. And then you telling me that you are not a liar? Just stop. You are pathetic hypocrite and systematic liar.

 

[s4tch]

you really posted that? i just wanted to give an imaginary example but you're worse than i imagined. what a fanboy.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

you really posted that? i just wanted to give an imaginary example but you're worse than i imagined. what a fanboy.

Point proven - s4tch aka the lying hypocrite