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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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I’m slowly getting to the conclusion that he’s the wrong man for the job. He’s a great coach indeed, but perhaps not suitable for a rebuild job.
1- After half a season he criticizes the team as if he’s a pundit and not the leader of that team. the comment he made yesterday regarding midfielders just running around was the prime example. He has criticized Rabiot countless times yet he almost always starts.
2- I was hoping his man management skills turns us into a team but I don’t see any improvements. The protest scenes after final whistle yesterday were embarrassing. We have only scored 28 goals yet we’re so scared to move the line a little bit higher even with a decimated Napoli side.
The moves in the final third is frankly worse than mid table clubs. His football currently is not better than Pirlo’s.
it’s not only him that looks wrong for the task. All the management hierarchy seems to be out of their depth. If we finish the season outside of top 4, as it seems very likely, I hope Agnelli leaves too.
Even a sensible guy like @Osman said yesterday that Allegri is not a good attacking coach. He's not, and never has been one, so what we're seeing here shouldn't be shocking to anyone. If a club wants a fresh start and a rebuild, you don't go back to a previous manager who already worked with a lot of the players on the squad. It makes literally ZERO sense to rehire him in a rebuild, and is instead just brainless decision making once again, this time based on nostalgia.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,178
Allegri needs to play locatelli and arthur together. Locatelli box to box like he played in italy. He is actually the only goal scoring midfielder we have.
Arthur has literally done nothing for the past 1.5 years. So what's this stuff about people asking for him to be played? Loca and Arthur together doesn't even make sense conceptually.
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
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May 27, 2007
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didn't ronaldo and his 30+ goals leave

inb4 allegri wanted ronaldo out lol
It's not like Ronaldo left and we stood there with the same team and 10 players on the pitch, though. Despite our lack of goals, it's not as plain to say we lack Ronaldo's goals. We also managed to sign Locatelli and we're seeing more of Dybala.

But regarding our general play, I'd say improvements are bare minimal. Majority of the match we don't even look like a team but randomly assembled players.
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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Even a sensible guy like @Osman said yesterday that Allegri is not a good attacking coach. He's not, and never has been one, so what we're seeing here shouldn't be shocking to anyone. If a club wants a fresh start and a rebuild, you don't go back to a previous manager who already worked with a lot of the players on the squad. It makes literally ZERO sense to rehire him in a rebuild, and is instead just brainless decision making once again, this time based on nostalgia.
You don’t really have to be an attacking coach though. Simeone is not and he built Atleti into a powerhouse. But unlike Simeone Allegri is too nonchalant for this shit show. Comparing to round 20 last season we’ve conceded only 1 less goal while scoring 13 less. He keeps saying we have to work on that but performances show otherwise.

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Zidane is available waiting for a big transfer budget.
Allegri won’t be sacked of course. At least not until Agnelli leaves.
 
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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,178
You don’t really have to be an attacking coach though. Simeone is not and he built Atleti into a powerhouse. But unlike Simeone Allegri is too nonchalant for this shit show. Comparing to round 20 last season we’ve conceded only 1 less goal while scoring 13 less. He keeps saying we have to work on that but performances show otherwise.

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Allegri won’t be sacked of course. At least not until Agnelli leaves.
You don't have to be an attacking coach, but if you're a defensive coach you had better work with the team on counter-attacking threats. Our counters are also shit.
 
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Was it a calculated draw? We dropped back and defended with 4141 yesterday, usually we defend in 442. Locatelli in possession was standing so low, many times between the CBs. We didn’t press, Napoli played with 2 CMs we got outnumbered whenever they gained possession. Napoli would find space over and over again because we dropped back. I’m so disappointed and surprised by this approach, what was he thinking?

The lack of intensity and ideas around their box was ridiculous, if it wasn’t for Chiesa playing like Ronaldo (shooting whenever possible) we would’ve lost. He waited way to long with the subs aswel.

Very disappointing!
 

CarloP

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Jan 24, 2010
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I think Allegri should absolutely be held accountable for our lack of goals. Do they players deserve the blame too? Certainly. Do we need to sign a competent #9? No doubt. But we're scoring less than Bologna, Empoli, Udinese etc. after half a season. We struggle to create chances against mid-table and relegation-candidate opposition.

Do we even train at all in cohesive counter-attacking, finishing, and incisive link-up play in the final third? If we do it isn't anywhere near enough. Our fullbacks telegraph their crosses directly into their marker 95% of the time. Our attacking set piece play is a joke too, as it has been for years now. Our shooting accuracy is laughable. And then there's Rabiot starting every game. That's on the manager.
 

rakib567

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Apr 27, 2013
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Arthur has literally done nothing for the past 1.5 years. So what's this stuff about people asking for him to be played? Loca and Arthur together doesn't even make sense conceptually.
he hasnt done anything because he dosnt get played. But when he's on the ball u can see a completely different juve. he is calm on the ball and dictates the tempo
 

juve123

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Aug 10, 2017
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You don’t really have to be an attacking coach though. Simeone is not and he built Atleti into a powerhouse. But unlike Simeone Allegri is too nonchalant for this shit show. Comparing to round 20 last season we’ve conceded only 1 less goal while scoring 13 less. He keeps saying we have to work on that but performances show otherwise.

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Allegri won’t be sacked of course. At least not until Agnelli leaves.
Patience don't torture yourself too much. The winning cycle is over a new cycle will start in the Europa League.
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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I still think after 3 different coaches it’s pretty clear we have a pathetic squad with underperforming players but I admit It’s getting harder to defend Allegri.
Again, no doubt that we have a weak squad. It's also quite important to stress out that we're financially pretty fucked up imo, which makes Allegri signing even worse considering his wages. Seems like wasted money. If everyone was aware he's not the right coach when it comes to rebuilding the squad I just wonder why we took him. What's the point of having a coach who can only work with great players? Getting to those great players seems like a long road for us.
 

Cerval

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Feb 20, 2016
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Again, no doubt that we have a weak squad. It's also quite important to stress out that we're financially pretty fucked up imo, which makes Allegri signing even worse considering his wages. Seems like wasted money. If everyone was aware he's not the right coach when it comes to rebuilding the squad I just wonder why we took him. What's the point of having a coach who can only work with great players? Getting to those great players seems like a long road for us.
True, Allegri probably wasn't the right coach to hire considering the current team. Defensively he's good, but offensively he lets players have freedom and doesn't believe in movements or attacking schemes. More of a 'let the players do their thing'. And since our players are not creative except for Chiesa and Dybala (and Dybala doesn't combine that much with others), we haven't lined them up often and when we do they are doing their own thing on their own. With the team we had back then stacked with quality it was possible to create, this one is a black hole.
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
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Again, no doubt that we have a weak squad. It's also quite important to stress out that we're financially pretty fucked up imo, which makes Allegri signing even worse considering his wages. Seems like wasted money. If everyone was aware he's not the right coach when it comes to rebuilding the squad I just wonder why we took him. What's the point of having a coach who can only work with great players? Getting to those great players seems like a long road for us.
Allegri was the “safe bet”, he’s a respected figure in the club’s history. If we had hired a nobody who didn’t get results the fans would be wiping the floor with Agnelli’s ugly face. But yes the financial situation has played a big part on our decline.
 

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