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Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,886
If Nedved apologizes and admits his mistake to Allegri why not let him stay? Maybe he already did it.
Where did we get the idea that Nedved was behind what happened in last two years? Beppe said he’s in good terms with everyone in Juve except Paratici. As it turns out he’s the one who’s fired before Max’s return. Maybe it was all Paratici.
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,321
every year except.... you make it sound like his football was bad for 9 seasons out 12. Where in fact, by your admission, it is 2 season out of 5.
I just said as it is. He can play a nice brand of football and could play a boring style - it depends on the players at his disposal.

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Relax. We have to fire Pirlo first.
It will happen at the same time I believe (I mean the announcements)
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Paratici, Nedved, Ronaldo, Pirlo, Chiellini, Buffon, Bonucci, fuck it, also Pinsoglio: out

Allegri: In
Ronaldo and Dybala interchangeable there imo. Sell whoever brings us a larger fee this summer, renew Morata loan, and let the other walk in a year when we can also send Morata back and go all-in for a long-term CF to lead the line with Chiesa, Kulu, etc.

You also forgot to include a midfielder or two. Ramsey at the very least should be moved on from, and ideally Bentancur would be too, freeing up space for two midfield signings. This summer should be all about finally fixing our midfield and replacing Alex Sandro.
 

Juliano13

Senior Member
May 6, 2012
5,017
There is a live thread on Allegri on Football-Italia. LIVE: Latest news on Allegri to Juventus - Football Italia (football-italia.net)

I see a lot of undercover interisti posting:

adpino: Mixed feelings. We'll win with Allegri, but only by playing the kind of sterile, thrustless football Sarri and Pirlo were brought in to counteract with something a bit more contemporary and progressive. This is a safe move backwards. I think I'd probably have stuck with Pirlo, who, at his best, has played far nicer football than Allegri, and might be expected to get more consistency out of the team with more time and a transfer market. But I understand that Agnelli's hands are forced by timing.

Sajuve59: The return of Allegri to Juventus is a big mistake. Angeli ruined Juventus himself. Let Pirlo doing his job for for another year.He would be successful. I bet on it.

Moe: Can we just hire Gasperini FFS?!!! I want to see an exciting Juve again....it's been a damn while.

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And by the way, why the fack did they ruin FI? The new look is awful.
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
Moderator
Aug 27, 2008
36,352
There is a live thread on Allegri on Football-Italia. LIVE: Latest news on Allegri to Juventus - Football Italia (football-italia.net)

I see a lot of undercover interisti posting:

adpino: Mixed feelings. We'll win with Allegri, but only by playing the kind of sterile, thrustless football Sarri and Pirlo were brought in to counteract with something a bit more contemporary and progressive. This is a safe move backwards. I think I'd probably have stuck with Pirlo, who, at his best, has played far nicer football than Allegri, and might be expected to get more consistency out of the team with more time and a transfer market. But I understand that Agnelli's hands are forced by timing.

Sajuve59: The return of Allegri to Juventus is a big mistake. Angeli ruined Juventus himself. Let Pirlo doing his job for for another year.He would be successful. I bet on it.

Moe: Can we just hire Gasperini FFS?!!! I want to see an exciting Juve again....it's been a damn while.

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And by the way, why the fack did they ruin FI? The new look is awful.
I sometimes forget there are Juventus fans who don't exist on Tuz.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
There is a live thread on Allegri on Football-Italia. LIVE: Latest news on Allegri to Juventus - Football Italia (football-italia.net)

I see a lot of undercover interisti posting:

adpino: Mixed feelings. We'll win with Allegri, but only by playing the kind of sterile, thrustless football Sarri and Pirlo were brought in to counteract with something a bit more contemporary and progressive. This is a safe move backwards. I think I'd probably have stuck with Pirlo, who, at his best, has played far nicer football than Allegri, and might be expected to get more consistency out of the team with more time and a transfer market. But I understand that Agnelli's hands are forced by timing.

Sajuve59: The return of Allegri to Juventus is a big mistake. Angeli ruined Juventus himself. Let Pirlo doing his job for for another year.He would be successful. I bet on it.

Moe: Can we just hire Gasperini FFS?!!! I want to see an exciting Juve again....it's been a damn while.

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And by the way, why the fack did they ruin FI? The new look is awful.
Pirlo had us playing far nicer football than Allegri? I’ve heard it all now. :lol:
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
12,834
Ronaldo and Dybala interchangeable there imo. Sell whoever brings us a larger fee this summer, renew Morata loan, and let the other walk in a year when we can also send Morata back and go all-in for a long-term CF to lead the line with Chiesa, Kulu, etc.

You also forgot to include a midfielder or two. Ramsey at the very least should be moved on from, and ideally Bentancur would be too, freeing up space for two midfield signings. This summer should be all about finally fixing our midfield and replacing Alex Sandro.
Those go without saying. I just want the table cleared first for Allegri.
 

Dominic

Senior Member
Jan 30, 2004
16,706
Allegri is one of the finest tacticians around. In a way I was surprised he was shunned by big clubs, but in a way I wasn't because Allegri, for all his talents, is one of the biggest nearly men in modern football.

I've said it about 1000 times on this forum. Allegri is great for his tactical flexibility and strategic ingenuity but he has a silly principle that he won't stop believing. He promotes it at a lot of pressers - his team must 'read moments' in games. Holding and controlling the ball for 90 minutes leaves, according Allegri, his teams complacent and exposed to a surprise counter attack. There are times to take the initiative and others to deliberately hand the momentum and the initiative to the opposition, then play catenaccio. He really does believe that! It's an absurd idea and it lost us those CL finals. We let our opponents become confident just when we ought to have been putting our foots to their throats.

Will be good to watch us playing attractive football again though. Big respect for this man.
He explains it a little differently though. Or i interpret it differently. Hé assumes you cant always have the initiative. When you dont you cant expose yourself and keep focus on the hand you are dealt at that moment. Hé also assumes theres always a small time in any game you can strike and take the game home, miss it and you need to shore up.

having said that, its pretty similar to what you said. But i would not say he gives the initiative away. He just expects it to happen.
 

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